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Re: It's time to NERF new DK.
Militan1404 wrote: »Hmm,,,, the reactions here range from enthusiastic approval to deep regret, though I’ve also come across players who actually describe the changes as “the worst update in ESO’s history.”
I don’t entirely agree with that, but I’m not thrilled either. I’m more afraid that this—or rather, the DK—is just the beginning of yet another never-ending “balancing” and “improvement” frenzy.
Sometimes it’s better to just leave things that have proven themselves over the years, as they were.
There are currently much more important “areas for improvement” that have opened up for the developers.
just my2cent
From what I'm seeing, it actually seems like the majority agree that the DK should be left alone. 4 people out of probably a hundred calling for nerfs isn't what I would call both enthusiastic approval and deep regret. Its more enthusiastic approval.
The support for the DK speaks for itself. By democracy, people like the route the devs are taking. You can even look at the approval through likes and awesomes on posts supporting the new DK.
I think alot of the complaints about power differences are valid, but they are misdirected and often not taking into account anything besides short-sighted nerf-buff cycles, that everyone and their mother is exhausted from experiencing time and time again in this game for the past decade.
Just let the *** unfold, because at the end of the day, this has kinda always been ESO's weak point, the cycling of nerfs and buffs, that often left some classes unusable for half a year at some points in the past(try using sorcerers before subclassing came out in anything besides a niche pvp use case, it was awful)
The consensus though is clearly very positive reactions to DK. The only negative ones im seeing are people who come from PvP, whom, btw, has always experienced the most imbalanced environment compared to PvE. They could alleviate that problem by making PvP separate instances instead of connecting it with PvE.... you know, something like Vengeance.
Go to cyro then if you think its only like 4 players, text chat is full of players that dont like new dk. And why suggesting Vengeance when most pvpers have rejected it? Each time zos tryed to make Vengeance a thing, cyro gets empty. Dont matter how much players enjoi it, its overpreforming in so many ways. And would the class be so less fun if it was ballanced? Are you so bad of a player that you need a class to carry you instead of relying on your skills to do the job? Oh yeah lets make every class this overpowered like pve aint easy enough like it is. I both pve and pvp but in pve i can at least not use this cheese and pretend it dont exist.
At this rate, I'm not even sure what your argument is because your thoughts are so jumbled up and nonsensical.
Faltasë
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Re: The critter massacre in the challenge zones
I think we need to take the emotions out of this tbh.
People who are upset about the critters dying are not overly emotional, they just dont like seeing visualizations of death and are sensitive to artistic non-real enactments of suffering. They dont like seeing things that are "optional" enemies in their eyes needlessly be killed. That is fine.
The people who are killing the critters are not emotionally stunted and don't enjoy punching puppies in the real world. Im pretty sure that if anyone saw someone setting fire and clubbing defenseless wild animals in the real world, most of us would stop them and would be upset. However, in the game they recognize the critters on the screen are not real and cannot suffer, thus are not given the emotional grief that is given to real creatures in the real world. That is fine.
It is just a difference in perceiving an art form (and yes video games and its graphics is an art form). Neither perspectives is wrong, or is inherently BETTER then the other. Thus, you cannot use one perspective to force changes in the game, because you diminish the perspective of the other which is no greater.
Instead, we should be be deciding things based on the game itself.
1) killing 1000 creatures is tedious to do
2) Limiting it to a couple zones creates needless competition between players.
3) They need better quests. A lot of people do not have a lot of time to do things in game. So if killing 1000 mobs is going to be what the seasonal endeavors are going to look for the next couple of times, then I will probably not be participating as I would rather spend time questing or doing something much more interesting then standing in the same zone waiting for mobs to respawn for the 100th time.
People who are upset about the critters dying are not overly emotional, they just dont like seeing visualizations of death and are sensitive to artistic non-real enactments of suffering. They dont like seeing things that are "optional" enemies in their eyes needlessly be killed. That is fine.
The people who are killing the critters are not emotionally stunted and don't enjoy punching puppies in the real world. Im pretty sure that if anyone saw someone setting fire and clubbing defenseless wild animals in the real world, most of us would stop them and would be upset. However, in the game they recognize the critters on the screen are not real and cannot suffer, thus are not given the emotional grief that is given to real creatures in the real world. That is fine.
It is just a difference in perceiving an art form (and yes video games and its graphics is an art form). Neither perspectives is wrong, or is inherently BETTER then the other. Thus, you cannot use one perspective to force changes in the game, because you diminish the perspective of the other which is no greater.
Instead, we should be be deciding things based on the game itself.
1) killing 1000 creatures is tedious to do
2) Limiting it to a couple zones creates needless competition between players.
3) They need better quests. A lot of people do not have a lot of time to do things in game. So if killing 1000 mobs is going to be what the seasonal endeavors are going to look for the next couple of times, then I will probably not be participating as I would rather spend time questing or doing something much more interesting then standing in the same zone waiting for mobs to respawn for the 100th time.
FlameDark
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Re: Bugged items in the new crate
Agree and I've pointed out some items in the Crown Crates post as well:
Also agree:
It's not the first time multiple items have been bugged in crates on launch. For example, the Hidden Kindred crates and several others since then have launched with bugs. Although it should be caught by QA, I wish we could at least PTS test these.
It's also strange that they appear "rushed" as you say, because these assets have been made for a while. If you know where to look, the art was already available months ago, and since most of the splash art is paintover / filters over a 3D scene, that means the assets were already made. So it's unfortunate that these things were not fixed before launch over those months – and that things like Khajiit hair, while not technically a bug, could not have been improved in that timeframe.
@ZOS_Kevin
Warrior Wave Platform, Yathian Turquoise – is it missing the texture, or upside-down in preview? Edit: It's definitely missing the color (diffuse) channel.
And why do the the Windjammer Braids have a bald spot in front for Khajiit?
At least, depending on one's hair and skin color, it's not as bad as the wiiiiiiiiide purple hair last time or the curly tresses bug, but it seems like these things are not tested for Khajiit before going live? *The braids look like they have a Khajiit-specific design, it's just a weird choice.
Also agree:
It’s concerning, at the very least, that there’s so many bugged cosmetic items in one season of crates. Then there’s the upcoming monster hunter personality that can’t use your equipped weapon and clips through some armor pieces… And the battle pass is supposedly going to have mostly cosmetics. Everything seems hastily thrown together and I wonder if we can expect to see more “rushed” cosmetics in the future.
It's not the first time multiple items have been bugged in crates on launch. For example, the Hidden Kindred crates and several others since then have launched with bugs. Although it should be caught by QA, I wish we could at least PTS test these.
It's also strange that they appear "rushed" as you say, because these assets have been made for a while. If you know where to look, the art was already available months ago, and since most of the splash art is paintover / filters over a 3D scene, that means the assets were already made. So it's unfortunate that these things were not fixed before launch over those months – and that things like Khajiit hair, while not technically a bug, could not have been improved in that timeframe.
MoonPile
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Re: Werewolf Update From The Combat Refresh Team
Just can't shake the image that the face, especially the ears, reminds me of cartoon 'evil' bats...
Re: Werewolf Update From The Combat Refresh Team
"We can't add much more fur because of technical reasons, so we will add longer fur where nobody asked, oh, there is nothing left for bald places, they will stay so."
Please, transplant some fur from mohawk and back to better places.
And I very-very hope mohawk and those silly pointed ears will be not so ridiculous in correct pose.
However, it really look better than first version. There is a lot of things that can be improved, but at least It doesn't look sick and mangy now. Not yet something I will want to play, but now it is not a thing I would strongly avoid.
Please, transplant some fur from mohawk and back to better places.
And I very-very hope mohawk and those silly pointed ears will be not so ridiculous in correct pose.
However, it really look better than first version. There is a lot of things that can be improved, but at least It doesn't look sick and mangy now. Not yet something I will want to play, but now it is not a thing I would strongly avoid.
Re: Oh how I wish we still had Chapters
Engagement vs enjoyment (they’re not the same)
Engagement (what studios measure):
• Logins per day/week
• Time spent
• Tasks completed
• System interaction (tomes, passes, currencies)
Enjoyment (what players feel):
• “That was worth my time”
• Memorable moments
• Meaningful progress
• A sense of place and purpose
You can have high engagement with low enjoyment.
Engagement (what studios measure):
• Logins per day/week
• Time spent
• Tasks completed
• System interaction (tomes, passes, currencies)
Enjoyment (what players feel):
• “That was worth my time”
• Memorable moments
• Meaningful progress
• A sense of place and purpose
You can have high engagement with low enjoyment.
Taarente
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Re: Oh how I wish we still had Chapters
dinokstrunz wrote: »Chapters lost their appeal very fast.
Not for me. Farming for cosmetics is what I find boring.
SilverBride
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Re: April 20th Vengeance Only..
If they would stop doing these tests (as the very vocal anti-Vengeance players demand it), what should ZOS be doing instead? If the answer is nothing, then you've pretty much doomed Cyrodiil for everyone.
Just stop taking away normal Cyrodiil, it’s not a hard concept. They have to though cause participation in Vengeance is abysmal when they run side by side.
SneaK
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Re: What will you Vestigitize first?
I suspect it won't be used all that much even by those that asked for it. And I don't think it will be used for questing, but rather just toggled on for world bosses, etc..
Re: Weekly challenges are...
I wish the points didn't vary as much but the tasks themselves have a good mix.
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