Getting it from the Impresario is the 'normal' way to get it, as it has been all along. It's not punishment.
The rare chance to get the fragment in the event before it is just that... I have no issue with it. I'll just give a little cheer if/when I get it and really never give it a second thought if I don't. I certainly don't get stressed if it doesn't show.

didnt get the fragment during jesters and bought it during this event but i did get this new fragment during anniversary through RNG...over time it will even out for you

their plan for increased difficulty sounds awful. imagine, you're on increased difficulty, nearly dying, almost getting one-shotted, struggling to survive, then in comes a normal difficulty setting player that just wrecks the enemy in 0.5 seconds, making you look like you don't know how to play, or like some noob with no gear.

no thanks

Xarc wrote: »

Vraedlich wrote: »

The other classes just need similar passes.

Until then there is zero reason to complain. You have access to both DKs and subclassing.

I play PvP.
I don't play DK, but I play against them, and there's clearly a difference compared to other classes.
I don't use subclassing for most of my PvP characters (only healers in battlegrounds, but not in Cyrodiil).

What you don't understand is that I'm not saying DKs aren't fun to play; they're probably very fun. But if your definition of fun is that you now easily crush other classes, then we have different definitions. We can easily make slight adjustments that allow for a slight rebalancing; we're not going to wait 150 years for all the classes to be rebalanced, that's ridiculous.

Note that I have two DK characters that I've tested, of course, and yes, I've noticed the change. It's completely different.
I maintain that this rework needs to be slightly modified.

Malyore wrote: »

WE'RE NOT ALL DKS!

Using a DK subclass on your character makes you a DK in this discussion.

You are having a very hard time with the idea that people who do not play DKs... at ALL, are supporting NOT nerfing the DK changes right now. You also assumed that I subclassed DK in a previous post when I pointed out that I did not play DK when I supported not nerfing the class. I do not have a DK character, and I do not subclass as a DK. I have not touched the DK skills or play in ANY regaurd as a DK. Yet am still on the side of "do not nerf, wait for all classes to get their turn before calling out for nerfs". So please stop assuming every person supporting the class is either DK or subclassing as one. Some of us want to see the changes roll out first before lighting each class that gets buffed on fire.

Militan1404 wrote: »

Faltasë wrote: »

Madarc wrote: »

Hmm,,,, the reactions here range from enthusiastic approval to deep regret, though I’ve also come across players who actually describe the changes as “the worst update in ESO’s history.”

I don’t entirely agree with that, but I’m not thrilled either. I’m more afraid that this—or rather, the DK—is just the beginning of yet another never-ending “balancing” and “improvement” frenzy.

Sometimes it’s better to just leave things that have proven themselves over the years, as they were.
There are currently much more important “areas for improvement” that have opened up for the developers.
just my2cent

From what I'm seeing, it actually seems like the majority agree that the DK should be left alone. 4 people out of probably a hundred calling for nerfs isn't what I would call both enthusiastic approval and deep regret. Its more enthusiastic approval.

The support for the DK speaks for itself. By democracy, people like the route the devs are taking. You can even look at the approval through likes and awesomes on posts supporting the new DK.

I think alot of the complaints about power differences are valid, but they are misdirected and often not taking into account anything besides short-sighted nerf-buff cycles, that everyone and their mother is exhausted from experiencing time and time again in this game for the past decade.

Just let the *** unfold, because at the end of the day, this has kinda always been ESO's weak point, the cycling of nerfs and buffs, that often left some classes unusable for half a year at some points in the past(try using sorcerers before subclassing came out in anything besides a niche pvp use case, it was awful)

The consensus though is clearly very positive reactions to DK. The only negative ones im seeing are people who come from PvP, whom, btw, has always experienced the most imbalanced environment compared to PvE. They could alleviate that problem by making PvP separate instances instead of connecting it with PvE.... you know, something like Vengeance.

Go to cyro then if you think its only like 4 players, text chat is full of players that dont like new dk. And why suggesting Vengeance when most pvpers have rejected it? Each time zos tryed to make Vengeance a thing, cyro gets empty. Dont matter how much players enjoi it, its overpreforming in so many ways. And would the class be so less fun if it was ballanced? Are you so bad of a player that you need a class to carry you instead of relying on your skills to do the job? Oh yeah lets make every class this overpowered like pve aint easy enough like it is. I both pve and pvp but in pve i can at least not use this cheese and pretend it dont exist.

At this rate, I'm not even sure what your argument is because your thoughts are so jumbled up and nonsensical.

I think we need to take the emotions out of this tbh.

People who are upset about the critters dying are not overly emotional, they just dont like seeing visualizations of death and are sensitive to artistic non-real enactments of suffering. They dont like seeing things that are "optional" enemies in their eyes needlessly be killed. That is fine.

The people who are killing the critters are not emotionally stunted and don't enjoy punching puppies in the real world. Im pretty sure that if anyone saw someone setting fire and clubbing defenseless wild animals in the real world, most of us would stop them and would be upset. However, in the game they recognize the critters on the screen are not real and cannot suffer, thus are not given the emotional grief that is given to real creatures in the real world. That is fine.

It is just a difference in perceiving an art form (and yes video games and its graphics is an art form). Neither perspectives is wrong, or is inherently BETTER then the other. Thus, you cannot use one perspective to force changes in the game, because you diminish the perspective of the other which is no greater.

Instead, we should be be deciding things based on the game itself.

1) killing 1000 creatures is tedious to do

2) Limiting it to a couple zones creates needless competition between players.

3) They need better quests. A lot of people do not have a lot of time to do things in game. So if killing 1000 mobs is going to be what the seasonal endeavors are going to look for the next couple of times, then I will probably not be participating as I would rather spend time questing or doing something much more interesting then standing in the same zone waiting for mobs to respawn for the 100th time.

Just can't shake the image that the face, especially the ears, reminds me of cartoon 'evil' bats...

"We can't add much more fur because of technical reasons, so we will add longer fur where nobody asked, oh, there is nothing left for bald places, they will stay so."
Please, transplant some fur from mohawk and back to better places.

And I very-very hope mohawk and those silly pointed ears will be not so ridiculous in correct pose.

However, it really look better than first version. There is a lot of things that can be improved, but at least It doesn't look sick and mangy now. Not yet something I will want to play, but now it is not a thing I would strongly avoid.

Engagement vs enjoyment (they’re not the same)

Engagement (what studios measure):
• Logins per day/week
• Time spent
• Tasks completed
• System interaction (tomes, passes, currencies)

Enjoyment (what players feel):
• “That was worth my time”
• Memorable moments
• Meaningful progress
• A sense of place and purpose

You can have high engagement with low enjoyment.