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Re: What is your favorite NPC line in the game?
They say gold can't buy happiness. They just don't know where to shop.
- Bastian
- Bastian
Re: It’s Time. Drop the Class System.
Hello. I am here to rip your head off. If you can kindly get comfortable in this guillotine...
Re: Overland Content Feedback Thread
ESO_player123 wrote: »ESO_player123 wrote: »spartaxoxo wrote: »spartaxoxo wrote: »
They can.
5 minutes isn't quick when you need to tag multiple types of mobs in a delve to complete a quest, while at least one other player is moving through the mobs at triple your speed while instantly killing all mobs in a large radius around them. You might be able to barely tag a couple near you before the whirlwind kills them and moves on, leaving you without a chance to catch up to any other mobs that the whirlwind is going after, and so you have to stay where you are to wait for a respawn that happens just as the whirlwind is circling around to get the freshly respawned mobs.
Just use a ranged aoe and tag the mobs. Staff has wall of elements, assault has caltrops, bow has poison spray....so there are non-class specific options as well.
With a melee single-target attack, you might be able to barely tag one near you before it is killed.
So bring a ranged skill? With all of the freedom we now have in build customization, who in the world is exclusively using melee skills? You have two bars of five regular skills and two ults, surely at least one of those could (and absolutely should) be set aside for a ranged attack, or a gap closer that can help you move in and tag more quickly when you need to.
You’re leaving off a significant chunk of both what I said in that post as well as the previous quotes that it is a reply to.
To recap: I had said that a new/unoptimized/casual player might, when there is another player whirwinding through the area, might be able to barely tag a couple mobs near them before they are killed, and not be able to catch up to the whirlwind to tag any more than that. To which a response was to use a ranged aoe. To which I responded that a ranged aoe was already what I had calculated, and if I was talking about a melee single target attack, I would have instead said that player might be able to barely tag one mob near them instead of a couple.
Since we are talking about the need to tag, I have a question. What is a new/unoptimized/casual player doing in a delve in this scenario?
Are they on a quest? If so, they do not need to tag everything. Most quests in delves/public dungeons (to my knowledge) require only retrieving items/killing a boss/bosses. So, outside of events or situations when people are farming a boss for a lead when the delve is very new the bosses are deserted. Sure, you might need to wait for a boss to respawn.
That is true for most. Two that come to mind are the repeatable daily quests "Culinary Justice in Greenshade" and "Veiled Darkness in Auridon", which require killing mobs and bosses. That requires waiting on a respawn for every 2-3 mobs, and then waiting on a respawn for the boss. With each respawn timer being 5 minutes, that could mean 30 minutes of waiting.
30 mins? I'm sorry, but that is math that is not backed by practice. I've done these on multiple new characters (both melee and ranged) multiple times while leveling the Undaunted skill line/getting scripts (as I'm sure most of the players did at some point). And also rather recently on PC EU where I created my first toon in the Fall. Yes, you need to wait for the boss most of the time in these delves. That is a given and not just for new players. But I've never had to wait for the regular mobs to respawn on any of my toons new or not even if there were multiple people in there.
Edit: Yes, YMMV, but I would like to see if anyone had to actually wait in one of those delves for 30 mins.
I do that quest frequently. Only the boss has a long respawn. The normal mobs in that delve respawn in two minutes or less, and you only need to kill 9 of them for the quest to get their heads as you always get at least one from the boss's two helpers. I have never had a problem finding mobs to kill on either server I play on. This is a non-issue that is being made out to be standard, everyday behavior.
Re: Jester's Festival - A Noble Quest: Remove thieving
Waits_Behind_Walls wrote: »Waits_Behind_Walls wrote: »I can't think of too many alternatives that wouldn't be less irritating that this one
One would be to not get a bounty for stealing the pig, just like mud ball quests don’t give a bounty for assault.
I mean, sure, but it hardly seems like you're doing anything at all at that point. Jorunn might as well just give you the quest reward for showing up.
Since mud ball quests don't give bounties for assault, should those quest givers also just give you the quest reward for showing up?
They do if you mudball a guard or royalty/government officials. And there's an achievement for doing just that.
Re: Why the one bar build hate? It needs to stop - some players do not like weapon swapping.
Ooh, an edit!EDIT:
Oh… I just looked at your vLC run too. You were definitely being carried there. It’s all good, mate, it happens to everyone, and it happens to me a lot as well, whether I’m running one-bar or two-bar setups. Yep…
How does it feel to have all your achievements only because others carried you for free?
Easy answer: I was in War Machine.
If you don't know, War Machine is a set from the Halls of Fabrication, and for its 5-piece bonus, it grants the wearer and 5 group members Major Slayer when the wearer casts an ultimate.
Basically, it's a group buff set, where the wearer sacrifices a 5-piece bonus for extra damage for the whole group! I'm sorry you didn't know that before, but now you do!
Oh yeah, I was also using Zena's Empowering Disc to grant the group more buffs, in place of a DoT I could have used to boost my own damage even more.
I am a buff boi, big and strong!Ok, ok. So you carry all the others? I’m trying to understand what "carry your own weight" really means, since so many players in 2bar setups always use this argument… So what does it really mean? After all, you’re not just the carry player, you carry them all. Is that it?
Re: Blooming Saddle fragment - Maybe a bit better thought?
Rare. Limited Time. Bound.
Pick two.
I really wish ZOS would stick to this rule. I got the saddle very quickly. But, it doesn't seem right to me that an entire system can be very negatively impacted by a player being hard limited by the game in how much effort they're even allowed to put into getting the chance for an item. Jackpots should be reserved for either items that are tradeable during events, or items that can be farmed at any time. And they should be cosmetics that are disconnected from other system e.g. the ayleid furnishing plans.
Pick two.
I really wish ZOS would stick to this rule. I got the saddle very quickly. But, it doesn't seem right to me that an entire system can be very negatively impacted by a player being hard limited by the game in how much effort they're even allowed to put into getting the chance for an item. Jackpots should be reserved for either items that are tradeable during events, or items that can be farmed at any time. And they should be cosmetics that are disconnected from other system e.g. the ayleid furnishing plans.
spartaxoxo
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Re: What are your predictions for Update 50's Player Experience Improvements?
I want account-wide skyshards. Base skill points are so insufficient and the most annoying thing about starting new characters is having to go all over and get skyshards again just to have enough for essential passives . Double skillpoints for subclassed lines make this even more of a problem. Even breaking down and reluctantly spending the crowns to unlock the shards I have completed for full zones doesn't get me enough skillpoints.
The last thing I want to do when I reach 50 on a new character is go hunt skyshards. Or redo this or that quest for the skyshard.
The last thing I want to do when I reach 50 on a new character is go hunt skyshards. Or redo this or that quest for the skyshard.
s3dulo
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Re: Does anyone use outfit change tokens?
Only when an outfit is being entirely redone with all expensive motifs. Once they're around 10k+ gold then I'll consider using them.
Malyore
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Re: Blooming Saddle fragment - Maybe a bit better thought?
The frustration for me isn't so much that some people get it early and save 1k trade bars. It's simply that it's random and on top of that not farmable.
Guaranteed if you do something to earn it (non-random) is good because you can choose if you want to engage with the content for the reward.
Random and farmable at least means if you put in the time your chances go up (just please with better odds than something like the anniversary style pages). This approach has the advantage of encouraging more interaction with the event as well.
But a random chance that you can only get once a day can leave people frustrated and also unengaged.
Guaranteed if you do something to earn it (non-random) is good because you can choose if you want to engage with the content for the reward.
Random and farmable at least means if you put in the time your chances go up (just please with better odds than something like the anniversary style pages). This approach has the advantage of encouraging more interaction with the event as well.
But a random chance that you can only get once a day can leave people frustrated and also unengaged.
Ezhh
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