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Re: U50 Feedback Thread for Combat Refresh: Werewolf
I just wanted to start by putting a bug in the art team's ear...
We know that U50 will not include any models beyond the new male and female werewolves, and that it is not currently being discussed to have others. I do agree that the primary target should be to add the basic black/white recolors, and I hope that the team is considering churning out other possible colors like a true brown or a true grey (the old unmorphed wolf color was a desaturated beige that satisfied neither of those colors) since about the only character customization available to players who use werewolf form is the skill style of the transformation, so it would be good to have a lot of options there.
However... I would hope that premium werewolf skill styles that give us alternate beast forms would be considered now that the refresh is here.
It was mentioned that new models would require new rigs and animations, but we have a lot of examples in game currently of Polymorphs that are useable for players despite not sharing the same model as standard humanoids - see the digitigrade hooves of the Minotaur, or the tree stump legs of the various Spriggans, or the three-fingered hands of the Atronachs. They were each rigged for those models, but then they animate with the standard humanoid skeleton so they can still do all of the animations in game.
It would be amazing if the team would consider premium models for alternate beast forms. While Elder Scrolls lore does list several werebeasts, the best option would be something that could be done like the above - a different model that could still reasonably use the werewolf animations. In fact, the two alternate werebeasts that have actually been seen in the series were derived from the werewolf as well: Daggerfall had (playable!) wereboars that used similar sprites to the werewolves, and Skyrim had werebear enemies that used all of the werewolf animations - enough so that mods could easily make the werebears playable simply by replacing the model.
I'll even point out the fact that ESO technically has werebears in game, at least in a fashion. Dagrund the Bulky, the third boss of the March of Sacrifices dungeon, is canonically a werebear and references it frequently in his dialogue... he just never transforms.
There doesn't seem to be much noise on the forums or anywhere about wereboars, but werebears do seem quite popular here and other places (and I'm asking a bit selfishly for myself, since I have a character who is canonically a werebear himself). A werebear model, rigged to use the basic werewolf animations, would be perfect for me, and bonus points if it also includes bear sound effects instead of the standard wolf ones. Not only that, if the model for werebears existed, it could end up like the Spriggan polymorph becoming Nazaray - give it to Finn's team and it could end up being a boss in a Dungeon so the model doesn't go to waste (and also more Dungeons would be incredible).
That kind of thing is also a perfect addition to the Crown Store or Premium Tomes - we see that the more involved Skill Styles tend to end up in there, and I know I for one would pay for it immediately. And, like the Spriggans, that's something that a model could be made once and then several recolors could be sold. I desperately need a standard brown bear, but I'll bet there are people who would also like a black or polar bear variant.
In conclusion:
Thank you
I'll be back in a few days after I've played with the werewolf to talk about the combat feel.
We know that U50 will not include any models beyond the new male and female werewolves, and that it is not currently being discussed to have others. I do agree that the primary target should be to add the basic black/white recolors, and I hope that the team is considering churning out other possible colors like a true brown or a true grey (the old unmorphed wolf color was a desaturated beige that satisfied neither of those colors) since about the only character customization available to players who use werewolf form is the skill style of the transformation, so it would be good to have a lot of options there.
However... I would hope that premium werewolf skill styles that give us alternate beast forms would be considered now that the refresh is here.
It was mentioned that new models would require new rigs and animations, but we have a lot of examples in game currently of Polymorphs that are useable for players despite not sharing the same model as standard humanoids - see the digitigrade hooves of the Minotaur, or the tree stump legs of the various Spriggans, or the three-fingered hands of the Atronachs. They were each rigged for those models, but then they animate with the standard humanoid skeleton so they can still do all of the animations in game.
It would be amazing if the team would consider premium models for alternate beast forms. While Elder Scrolls lore does list several werebeasts, the best option would be something that could be done like the above - a different model that could still reasonably use the werewolf animations. In fact, the two alternate werebeasts that have actually been seen in the series were derived from the werewolf as well: Daggerfall had (playable!) wereboars that used similar sprites to the werewolves, and Skyrim had werebear enemies that used all of the werewolf animations - enough so that mods could easily make the werebears playable simply by replacing the model.
I'll even point out the fact that ESO technically has werebears in game, at least in a fashion. Dagrund the Bulky, the third boss of the March of Sacrifices dungeon, is canonically a werebear and references it frequently in his dialogue... he just never transforms.
There doesn't seem to be much noise on the forums or anywhere about wereboars, but werebears do seem quite popular here and other places (and I'm asking a bit selfishly for myself, since I have a character who is canonically a werebear himself). A werebear model, rigged to use the basic werewolf animations, would be perfect for me, and bonus points if it also includes bear sound effects instead of the standard wolf ones. Not only that, if the model for werebears existed, it could end up like the Spriggan polymorph becoming Nazaray - give it to Finn's team and it could end up being a boss in a Dungeon so the model doesn't go to waste (and also more Dungeons would be incredible).
That kind of thing is also a perfect addition to the Crown Store or Premium Tomes - we see that the more involved Skill Styles tend to end up in there, and I know I for one would pay for it immediately. And, like the Spriggans, that's something that a model could be made once and then several recolors could be sold. I desperately need a standard brown bear, but I'll bet there are people who would also like a black or polar bear variant.
In conclusion:
Thank you
I'll be back in a few days after I've played with the werewolf to talk about the combat feel.
tomofhyrule
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Re: Please don't shut down Blackreach
Agreed. Grey Host should be changed to non-alliance locked. They're effectively removing the ability to play with friends for those that don't enjoy Vengeance.
Re: I Owe You All an Apology....
Aren't you the person who is also promoting the one-bar/HA exclusive guild on PC-EU? Feels like there is more to this than just an apology...
I was, and in fact we did some runs, all of them successful, and never fail or disband any. The only problem was with players who joined just to troll, but that’s nothing I couldn’t handle with a kick and a replacement.
But no, there’s nothing more to it than that. I just realized how broken Oakensoul is now, unless, yes, there is one "unless": players have enough experience with the game.
I always thought Oakensoul was released to help players learn mechanics and get into the game. At this point, it’s completely useless for both new and veteran players, Oakensoul is completely useless.
And yes, no more exclusive runs, and I’m "disbanding" the guild. There’s no point in keeping it going. New players are kind of “useless” if they use Oakensoul or 2bars, and experienced players aren’t interested in an "exclusive guild for 1bar" builds.
I just tried to create something until I realized how wrong I was.
Anyway, there’s no point in arguing about something where you’ll be right and I was completely wrong.
Athory
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Aetheric Lancer Update
First of all, thank you for taking a look at the IA class sets… for the most part they’ve only been good for the glowy armor effects.
The primary non-starter with Aetheric Lancer has been the requirement to “go touch” the spear, which is often impossible to even locate if you have moderate amount of adds, or decides to drop in the middle of a large hit box enemy where it’s impossible to touch.
If you are reassessing the set, could you please make this function more similarly to Null Arca and just fire on cooldown? Perhaps a spear that comes down with a small dot in its low radius aoe?
Anything would be preferable to the current state which isn’t useable
The primary non-starter with Aetheric Lancer has been the requirement to “go touch” the spear, which is often impossible to even locate if you have moderate amount of adds, or decides to drop in the middle of a large hit box enemy where it’s impossible to touch.
If you are reassessing the set, could you please make this function more similarly to Null Arca and just fire on cooldown? Perhaps a spear that comes down with a small dot in its low radius aoe?
Anything would be preferable to the current state which isn’t useable
Thal
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Re: U50 Feedback Thread for Combat Refresh: Werewolf
Why do you need the markings anyway? why do others need to know what Morph your using? you don't have any indication of what skills lines subclasses players are using.
Re: Update on ESO Plus Benefits & Seasons
Having any amount of tokens that isn't 12, is useless for a year sub. I wouldn't care if I had to wait longer to get my full set of 12, atleast I knew I would get it then.. but now as I subbed my yearly plan in October, I am sitting here with 9 points that will forever be behind regardless of what I do. Once I get to October of this year, i will take points from the renewal to use on one tome and then be back to square one, sitting with less than 12, when it should be 0. I will forever have lost 1 tome basically.
Keep in mind that because I dont have the full 12, I will not be able to use it on the next few tomes, meaning my choice is limited now to either buy the one only at the end of the year or save it back and wait til the year after.
They could've just given the points out based on the subscription plan you currently had after January, regardless if it started last year. As it was said above, it clearly states what subscription plan you have in bold writing, so its not so hard to verify that.
The whole pitch for this update was to prevent FOMO.. maybe am just too old now and have stuck with this game for far too long.
Keep in mind that because I dont have the full 12, I will not be able to use it on the next few tomes, meaning my choice is limited now to either buy the one only at the end of the year or save it back and wait til the year after.
They could've just given the points out based on the subscription plan you currently had after January, regardless if it started last year. As it was said above, it clearly states what subscription plan you have in bold writing, so its not so hard to verify that.
The whole pitch for this update was to prevent FOMO.. maybe am just too old now and have stuck with this game for far too long.
Re: Nerfing of crit resistance sets
I don’t think the Devs know just how absurdly broken critical damage is right now because of Monomyth. And the punishment for using Monomyth is “oo here’s a little tickle!” Major force as the only buff, then major AND minor vuln as a downside. Right now there’s literally no negative to Monomyth.
Re: Big nerf: velothi ur-mage's amulet
This is simply correcting an error that should have never existed in the first place.
Animation improvements feedback: Make animations smoother, NOT flashier
I like that there are animation improvements in the works currently, I have been looking forward to something like that for years, and I think it is very necessary.
There seems to be, however, a possibility that the demand for improved animations has been slightly misinterpreted.
Animations in ESO are outdated, too stiff, wooden and unnatural. All of 'em, from walking and running, to combat skills.
They need to be made smoother, silkier, "natural" looking with more smooth transitions between animation states.
They should NOT be flashier with more colours, particles, backflips, anime moves, etc.
I know adding more flashy particles is less work than having to tweak realistic body movement while avoiding clipping of body and armor/cosmetics, but more grounded animation is in the spirit of The Elder Scrolls, while also looking higher quality than tacky mobile game flamboyance.
Just smoother and more natural.
That is all.
There seems to be, however, a possibility that the demand for improved animations has been slightly misinterpreted.
Animations in ESO are outdated, too stiff, wooden and unnatural. All of 'em, from walking and running, to combat skills.
They need to be made smoother, silkier, "natural" looking with more smooth transitions between animation states.
They should NOT be flashier with more colours, particles, backflips, anime moves, etc.
I know adding more flashy particles is less work than having to tweak realistic body movement while avoiding clipping of body and armor/cosmetics, but more grounded animation is in the spirit of The Elder Scrolls, while also looking higher quality than tacky mobile game flamboyance.
Just smoother and more natural.
That is all.
Re: The critter massacre in the challenge zones
twisttop138 wrote: »Maybe it would be better if no one judged anyone else for their take on this task. I killed anything that moved, but if that's something you don't like, more power to you. I think @AScarlato is 100% right. If you don't like it, it's totally ok to skip it.
If you consider carefully, I never blamed those who go killing critters in those areas. Everyone is free to play as they see fit. However, I strongly advised ZOS NOT to ENCOURAGE mass killings of innocent critters with events, quests, or challenges like these.
This was the purpose of my post.
Just to clarify.
