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Re: Ticket ID: 260422-000982
Wahhhh teacher gave me a time out and it's unfair unless I see them punish someone else exactly the same way!
Re: U50 Feedback Thread for Combat Refresh: Werewolf
So a couple sort of cosmetic things I wanted to highlight in case they can be improved:
1) I've been moving around with the dire wolves just to see how they react and choose paths etc. It appears about 75% of the time they’re choosing to stack right on top of one another. My instinct is that it's a bit worse than on live, but regardless is there an easy way for you guys to make it so that they more reliably stand on either side of the player, move around more independently etc?
2) When moving forward and light attacking, the werewolf model sort of looks like it's gliding across the ground at times. This is fairly minor and I'm not sure when you'll be in a situation where you are just moving forward and light attacking randomly, but does look kind of goofy. It doesn't really end up looking that way when you're in normal combat changing direction, dodge rolling, weaving other attacks etc. but just in case there's an incremental improvement that's possible from the animation team:
https://youtu.be/XcFmgXVC3DA
1) I've been moving around with the dire wolves just to see how they react and choose paths etc. It appears about 75% of the time they’re choosing to stack right on top of one another. My instinct is that it's a bit worse than on live, but regardless is there an easy way for you guys to make it so that they more reliably stand on either side of the player, move around more independently etc?
2) When moving forward and light attacking, the werewolf model sort of looks like it's gliding across the ground at times. This is fairly minor and I'm not sure when you'll be in a situation where you are just moving forward and light attacking randomly, but does look kind of goofy. It doesn't really end up looking that way when you're in normal combat changing direction, dodge rolling, weaving other attacks etc. but just in case there's an incremental improvement that's possible from the animation team:
https://youtu.be/XcFmgXVC3DA
Re: U50 Feedback Thread for Combat Refresh: Werewolf
ACTUAL WEREWOLF FEEDBACK
A few more things:
1) Werewolves are still unable to pass the Tarcyr fight in March of Sacrifices. That fight has crouching/sneaking as a requirement. Since Werewolves can't sneak, they will never be able to pass the hunt phases in there without doing the secret areas. I assume this means they will also be unable to pass the Lord Hollowjack fight during Witches' Fest as it also requires characters to actively Crouch.
I did try to use the Prowl mechanic during the Tarcyr fight, but it doesn't do a thing. It is specifically looking for characters to be hidden, which means that werewolves are completely unable to pass that mechanic.
For a werewolf dungeon, the fact that werewolves can't do it seems like a massive oversight.
I honestly don't understand the resistance to werewolves being able to sneak in some way. Again, in two specific PvE encounters, werewolves are completely disallowed from entering - and the fact that these are a werewolf-themed dungeon and a halloween-themed boss fight just feels completely wrong.
At minimum, these two fights need to have a condition that werewolves are immune to the mechanic. That seems like a weird solution, but the correct answer would be to let them sneak. If the issue is that sneaking werewolves would make a problem for PvP, then have Prowl be a PvP-only feature and allow [CTRL] to do a sneak mode in PvE (even if no crouch animation is added).
That would also help the fact that Slaughter is not easy to trigger, as by the time you get close enough to an NPC to get the synergy, they usually can notice there's a giant wolf beast right behind them.
2) Werewolf Berserker is very hard to sustain as a lone wolf. On Live, the Blood Rage passive is the major source of sustain for the werewolf timer.
On PTS, that passive makes it easier to get to Rampage
The problem is that you need to be in werewolf form long enough to get to Rampage in order to use it. It's pretty tough to get up there fast enough without specifically building for ult gen. On Live, I can easily stay in werewolf form with no problem, even against bosses without a lot of adds. But on PTS, if there aren't a lot of adds around, I may be able to get to Rampage once, and that's only if I hard focus on timers instead of just... having fun?
It would really help if Blood Rage would revert back to a form of the Live passive like "When you deal damage, you gain X ultimate. This effect can occur once every 5 seconds" to help sustain the wolf form.
Honestly, the cost to remain in werewolf form (100 per 10 seconds) does feel a bit high in the first place, especially with how hard it is to sustain in the absence of corpses. Maybe a cost of 70 or even 50 per 10 secs would be better. I might also suggest making the cost less chunky, and spread it to a lower cost over a shorter duration - there are cases where a player might have 184 ult and cast it, which then kicks them right back out of werewolf form with barely anything to show for it.
A few more things:
1) Werewolves are still unable to pass the Tarcyr fight in March of Sacrifices. That fight has crouching/sneaking as a requirement. Since Werewolves can't sneak, they will never be able to pass the hunt phases in there without doing the secret areas. I assume this means they will also be unable to pass the Lord Hollowjack fight during Witches' Fest as it also requires characters to actively Crouch.
I did try to use the Prowl mechanic during the Tarcyr fight, but it doesn't do a thing. It is specifically looking for characters to be hidden, which means that werewolves are completely unable to pass that mechanic.
For a werewolf dungeon, the fact that werewolves can't do it seems like a massive oversight.
I honestly don't understand the resistance to werewolves being able to sneak in some way. Again, in two specific PvE encounters, werewolves are completely disallowed from entering - and the fact that these are a werewolf-themed dungeon and a halloween-themed boss fight just feels completely wrong.
At minimum, these two fights need to have a condition that werewolves are immune to the mechanic. That seems like a weird solution, but the correct answer would be to let them sneak. If the issue is that sneaking werewolves would make a problem for PvP, then have Prowl be a PvP-only feature and allow [CTRL] to do a sneak mode in PvE (even if no crouch animation is added).
That would also help the fact that Slaughter is not easy to trigger, as by the time you get close enough to an NPC to get the synergy, they usually can notice there's a giant wolf beast right behind them.
2) Werewolf Berserker is very hard to sustain as a lone wolf. On Live, the Blood Rage passive is the major source of sustain for the werewolf timer.
On PTS, that passive makes it easier to get to Rampage
The problem is that you need to be in werewolf form long enough to get to Rampage in order to use it. It's pretty tough to get up there fast enough without specifically building for ult gen. On Live, I can easily stay in werewolf form with no problem, even against bosses without a lot of adds. But on PTS, if there aren't a lot of adds around, I may be able to get to Rampage once, and that's only if I hard focus on timers instead of just... having fun?
It would really help if Blood Rage would revert back to a form of the Live passive like "When you deal damage, you gain X ultimate. This effect can occur once every 5 seconds" to help sustain the wolf form.
Honestly, the cost to remain in werewolf form (100 per 10 seconds) does feel a bit high in the first place, especially with how hard it is to sustain in the absence of corpses. Maybe a cost of 70 or even 50 per 10 secs would be better. I might also suggest making the cost less chunky, and spread it to a lower cost over a shorter duration - there are cases where a player might have 184 ult and cast it, which then kicks them right back out of werewolf form with barely anything to show for it.
tomofhyrule
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Re: Is Update 50 coming June 8th for ALL, or just PC at first?
For all. Thankfully the days of console having to wait two weeks are over. What a ridiculous thing that other games seem to have never had an issue with. It lasted way too long, one of the better changes this year.
Re: Please allow us to clear Tome Challenges that have progress on them
I second this.
Rather than “clear”, maybe “abandon” or “forfeit” is a better word.
Say you are in the middle of doing a Weekly Challenge but find it too time consuming or undoable. Whether you’ve claimed it or not, having the option to abandon or forfeit the task allows you to try getting a new one the following week.
There is no cheating involved as Points can be either not Claimed at all or partially Claimed. This is different from asking for partially done Weekly Challenges to be Rerolled - Rerolling on partial Claimed Challenges opens up the possibility of scoring more than the intended maximum points per task (eg getting Bodgan, doing it 2 times, rerolling and getting Molag Kena, doing that another 2 times, rerolling and getting Bogdan again, same Challenge space generating 1200+ points).
Abandoning or forfeiting simply allows the player to free up one held weekly challenge, ie effectively completing it for ZERO or less than the intended full-claim points, to allow for a new entry the following week.
Imagine this possible worst-case scenario - a new non-CP player uses all their rerolls, free or via Gold, and are stuck with Complete Antiquity (requires W. Skyrim DLC), Arena, Trial and PVP activities that they cannot finish. These begin to accumulate and stay week after week as they complete doable ones within their level and ability while being penalized with tasks outside of their ability. Soon they reach 12 of such undoable tasks. Sure, many of them could be copies. But to them it is undoable in the first place, so then what. Bear in mind new weekly Rerolls can also give other undoable tasks. It’s practically Game Over for them. Is this the intended outcome?
Should this proposed abandon / forfeit option cost a currency (Gold or Points) or have some usage limits ? No, it should not. It’s “clearing the slate” to Season start when we started with nothing and didn’t cost anything to join (non-premium base for all). Can anyone game this option if it’s allowed? I cant think of any. “Oh but if you abandon 12 Weekly Challenges you get 5 new ones PLUS rerolls if we implement this - thats not fair!”. Um. But thats what everyone starts with on Season Day 1 right ? 5 Weekly Challenges and Rerolls.
And before you say “git gud”, I’m CP3600, 7 years, just thinking on behalf of the overall player experience, both new and veteran.
Rather than “clear”, maybe “abandon” or “forfeit” is a better word.
Say you are in the middle of doing a Weekly Challenge but find it too time consuming or undoable. Whether you’ve claimed it or not, having the option to abandon or forfeit the task allows you to try getting a new one the following week.
There is no cheating involved as Points can be either not Claimed at all or partially Claimed. This is different from asking for partially done Weekly Challenges to be Rerolled - Rerolling on partial Claimed Challenges opens up the possibility of scoring more than the intended maximum points per task (eg getting Bodgan, doing it 2 times, rerolling and getting Molag Kena, doing that another 2 times, rerolling and getting Bogdan again, same Challenge space generating 1200+ points).
Abandoning or forfeiting simply allows the player to free up one held weekly challenge, ie effectively completing it for ZERO or less than the intended full-claim points, to allow for a new entry the following week.
Imagine this possible worst-case scenario - a new non-CP player uses all their rerolls, free or via Gold, and are stuck with Complete Antiquity (requires W. Skyrim DLC), Arena, Trial and PVP activities that they cannot finish. These begin to accumulate and stay week after week as they complete doable ones within their level and ability while being penalized with tasks outside of their ability. Soon they reach 12 of such undoable tasks. Sure, many of them could be copies. But to them it is undoable in the first place, so then what. Bear in mind new weekly Rerolls can also give other undoable tasks. It’s practically Game Over for them. Is this the intended outcome?
Should this proposed abandon / forfeit option cost a currency (Gold or Points) or have some usage limits ? No, it should not. It’s “clearing the slate” to Season start when we started with nothing and didn’t cost anything to join (non-premium base for all). Can anyone game this option if it’s allowed? I cant think of any. “Oh but if you abandon 12 Weekly Challenges you get 5 new ones PLUS rerolls if we implement this - thats not fair!”. Um. But thats what everyone starts with on Season Day 1 right ? 5 Weekly Challenges and Rerolls.
And before you say “git gud”, I’m CP3600, 7 years, just thinking on behalf of the overall player experience, both new and veteran.
Re: Update 50 and Accessibility
I just wish 90% of the sets in this game weren't garbage. Regardless of the source.
coop500
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Re: Update 50 and Accessibility
I don't agree that the only good trial gear should come from trials. That should be the predominant method and most trial gear should be on the same level as each other. But some stuff falls behind to power creep. And the lack of updates shouldn't prevent sets from other sources from being good. Crafted and Dungeon sets should be good there too. It's okay from them to not be the absolute best. But a crafted set being a good alternative to an outdated trial set is not a problem imo e.g. something like Sul-Xan requires enemies to be dying often. So, a flat damage set outperforming it in fights where that doesn't happen is not an issue imo.
Re: Ticket ID: 260422-000982
I look at the context of the word being used in OPs example, and it seems obvious they are trying to insult away people they see as inferior to them by some form of capacity. Why defend that? Why put the blame on everyone except the person who is being insulting? It just doesn't make sense to me.
Elaborating on this since its addressed to me, but otherwise I've said my piece.
I dont believe it was meant to be discriminatory at all, I've heard many guild leads for trial groups for instance say this in voice not against people who are actually mentally disabled, but as a way to tell people to use some common sense and don't do things most are well aware not to do, basically adhere to common etiquette and so on.
This is exactly why this word needs to be taken out of consideration for being against tos and look at the usage on a case by case basis, because they definitely are not all equal. To me this in the op response is so harmless, and it annoys me because I've reported cases that are far more malicious than this, and it was ignored, in reference to real life events and politics concerning deaths of innocent people, and players using this to bait chat about it.
^That is malicious. Telling people not to "act like an idiot" using that word is not the same, nor is it derogatory.
We need more Armory Slots
Please ZoS :')
Especially with subclassing coming out and all the many way to play this game.
PVE DPS Build
PVE Tank Build
PVE Healer Build
Solo PvP Build
Group PvP Build
PvP Healer Build
Sneak/Stealing/DB Build
Speed overworld gathering build
Companion Build (Questing)
Solo Arena Build
Infinite Archive Build
Werewolf Build
Flex slot so you arent deleting builds when trying new things
And many more as many of these can have more than one archetype of you wanna try different class combos, gear etc..
Im not the type for Alts, i like playing my one character. I like to be able to master everything with just one toon.
And yes there are addons but none of them work as inuitively as the Armory system.
Especially with subclassing coming out and all the many way to play this game.
PVE DPS Build
PVE Tank Build
PVE Healer Build
Solo PvP Build
Group PvP Build
PvP Healer Build
Sneak/Stealing/DB Build
Speed overworld gathering build
Companion Build (Questing)
Solo Arena Build
Infinite Archive Build
Werewolf Build
Flex slot so you arent deleting builds when trying new things
And many more as many of these can have more than one archetype of you wanna try different class combos, gear etc..
Im not the type for Alts, i like playing my one character. I like to be able to master everything with just one toon.
And yes there are addons but none of them work as inuitively as the Armory system.
Re: Ticket ID: 260422-000982
BardokRedSnow wrote: »Really wish zos would just tell people to have thicker skin instead of encouraging reporting for every little thing that offends people in a game with slavery murder and other stuff in relation to the now "King of Schemes" I probably can't even say on these forums. Everything from this to reporting for bagging as harrassment needs to go away for a game allegedly for 17+
There's a difference between a narrative having dark themes vs players insulting other people. Or does racism in guilds become okay because the altmer do it too?
Well, racism has no place but if two adults playing a game call each other names I'd hope they can just put each other on ignore than need customer service to intervene. It's very petty and it feels like a waste of time when the game gives you options to remove yourself from hearing unpleasant people.
So derogatory and hateful remarks DO have a place in this game?
There is also such a thing as having the capacity to not get personally offended or insulted by a thing, yet still recognize the inappropriateness of a behavior and try to have it amended through official channels that are in place exactly for that purpose.
I didn't say that. I just know gamers insult each other, it is what it is. I've been insulted many times in BGs but I just put the ranting people on ignore - I also am not so sensitive that I care if they press the crouch button over me when I chose to be very tanky and annoying.
I think some full adults are too sensitive and since we have an ignore function we can just use that?
I'm also an older person who was taught to try to resolve my differences with others on my own and only go to higher authorities as a last resort. Here I see situations where some people try to bait people into getting their accounts hit with actions and know exactly how the play the system in that way too.
