Artisian0001 wrote: »

LPapirius wrote: »

Just get rid of RoA and Dark Convergence and call it good. Asking for ZOS to dig deep and solve the desync issues from all sources is a far less likely outcome given how things have gone in the past with ZOS.

Free pull sets have no place in PvP environments.

lol the alt account to call it a free pull set again is hilarious, but let's try this again, how is a 5 piece set a "free" pull? One requires you to aim it with a 25 second cooldown and use an AoE skill, the other has n 8 second cooldown and requires you to be in melee range. They are also both delayed.

Also no, we wouldn't remove the sets with cooldowns on them that have a higher opportunity cost and call it a day when the skill that desyncs more often than any other skill or set is jav and it can be used every single second.

The common term used for RoA and Dark Convergence is "free pull sets". That is the accepted terminology....by everyone but you for some reason.

tbf if swimming mounts did take 9 months we will probably never see crossplay

The poor sloth is doing their very best to keep up. I'm not sure which I would feel more breaking: pets having extreme zoomies or just letting them take a break in the despawn dimension. Maybe we need sidecars on our mounts to carry our not-so-active pets.

As Rich noted during Gamescom, crossplay is being worked on. There is a lot of work to go through because ESO was built way before crossplay was part of the industry. And there is 11yrs worth of content, systems and data to go through. The last thing we want is for systems to be heavily impacted by crossplay and have it an impact on your overall gameplay experience. So it's something we have to be extra careful about. Nothing else to report right now, but there is a team focused on crossplay.

Give me god mode.

You can counter my god mode with 12 players all hitting Gravity Crush on me at the same time, but only that.

Since you can technically counter it, my god mode is very fair. I can even wear Rushing Agony with it.

shadoza wrote: »

Not agreeing with my conclusion does not make it faulty. Each paraphrase was plucked from this thread. I did not make the statements, I surmised them from the limited information / views provided.

Many people, me included, have tried to explain you where you went wrong.

shadoza wrote: »

I did not respond to your words because my last paragraph stated I was no longer interested in the issue of group dungeons, trials, arenas or anything else that is regulated by over-zealous players rather than game conduct codes.

Yet you were compelled to write quite a bit before that comment. Why write so much if everything you say can be ignored?

The reason I am not letting this go is because this is a public forum. Other people read this and might get a wrong picture from your post. The things you listed using creative interpretation were giving an image all the issues are universal and the norm. It conflated everything from random normal dungeons to optimised veteran trial runs into being a standard in normal dungeons.

This is a multiplayer game with other people. Any activity with multiple people will have people with different goals and ideas how to play. It's not limited to this game, or indeed even just video games. Any activity with multiple people will have multiple ideas how to proceed with the activity.

From your list only 1 and 6 are applicable to random normal dungeons. Everything else is for mainly veteran content in an organised group. I have no idea how you interpreted all the other points to apply to dungeons, but I applaud your creativity and imagination. And from the two points, 1 and 6, only the latter happens regularly. Of course there are people who abuse the voting system -- anything added into any game and someone will try to exploit it. But this voting system abuse is not typical or a norm. Nothing that anyone should avoid using the dungeon finder for.

So while you may have given up going with random people and avoid using any other tool available to you, I hope others do not get discouraged by this. Random groups are random, sometimes wonderful, other times painful, but usually something in between. And ZOS has provided many tools so you can go to dungeons in a more controlled manner. Create your own listing, look for other listings, ask in zone chat, join a guild, play with friends, etc. And then there are 3rd party solutions like Discord servers. Of course one can do only random groups via the group finder, but know that there are multiple other options available.

Haki_7 wrote: »

ruskiii wrote: »

Haki_7 wrote: »

Team got bombed once (only succeeded due to damage sigil) and promptly gave up. Three or four players immediately started to sacrifice themselves without even drawing weapons. Imagine giving up on a three-sided DM after a single wipe.

''4. People just give up a lot sooner because they can no longer fight for second place.''

In 3-team BGs they would have sat in spawn while the two better teams fought below them, picking them off if they decided to jump down or step to close to the edge.

Or I could have just healed their way out of the sandwich, thus forcing enemy teams to occupy the same space if they chose to pursue us (using one team against the other).
''1. Since you can't use one team against another anymore, (...)''

In my imagined BG you are on my team, not theirs. You have to heal me while we spawn camp them.