Xarc wrote: »

all the DKs on this thread : "nooo it's fine like it is!!!"

Sure, for you.

Lol no, i dont "main" anything. I have more playtime on my sorc and templar than my DK, and I still havnt forgiven them for ruining my favorite poison dk build.

Even so, I still argue that we need to wait for the initiative to finish before we start nerfing. For one, subclassing still exists and is still powerful. Secondly, the last thing we want is for ZOS to get distracted by reactionary changes that they fail to complete the initiative (aka hybridization among others).

This was already reported many times in the bug section as already Reward Tier wasn't progressing at all during the last campaign but nothing was made and nothing was said.

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/689518/cyrodiil-end-of-campaign-reward-tiers-have-been-reset#latest
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/689916/end-of-campaign-reward-tier-not-progressing#latest

And now also the score is bugged in Gray Host.
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/690392/scoring-bugged-in-cyrodiil-gh#latest

Good job devs besides making PvP a perfect place for cheaters since always.

Xarc wrote: »

all the DKs on this thread : "nooo it's fine like it is!!!"

Sure, for you.

lolz I dont even have a DK toon

Oblivion_Protocol wrote: »

The funny thing is that for all of DK’s power, it’s not that hard to kill them if you know what you’re doing. Flame resist glyphs and not being a vamp both go a long way. Whip can be dodge-rolled easily if you’ve got good timing and aren’t stunned. And you can see Corrosive coming from a mile away. Just stay away from the DK, keep your heals up, and dodge the Whips that you know are going to get spammed.

Really, the biggest problem I have with DK is the absolutely gargantuan amount of sustain they have with Heart/Soul of Flame, considering that it gives back more Magicka than it costs. Turn that down a bit and the class becomes a lot less brain-dead in terms of raw power.

It's a bit tricky, but you can also affect the sustain they get from Heart of Flame. Without Heart of Flame, DKs have no sustain. Everyone goes into max stat and damage mundus leaving them at around 600 recoveries. The sustain from Heart of Flame only works when the skill is used on cooldown every time. The solution? Get them to stop casting Heart of Flame on cool down through stuns and pressure as soon as it ends. DK skills cost a lot of mag, and they're going to have to spend time recovering. In a sustained fight, they're usually sitting around with a 40-60% mag pool, so the more time they have to cast skills without heart of flame up, the easier it will be to kill them. Negates might actually be the best thing to use against a DK if you can keep them in there for long enough.

A couple of friends were doing a vet dungeon and were at the next to last boss. I joined at that point to help. We killed that boss and the final one. Then, the group disbanded, but the dreaded countdown timer did not appear! Is it possible this has been done away with, or is this just a fluke?

Xarc wrote: »

all the DKs on this thread : "nooo it's fine like it is!!!"

Sure, for you.

Note that I do not main a DK and still think it's fine where it is. Even my one-and-only DK gets shredded and I'm willing to live with that rather than nerf it until the other classes catch up.

Feels like a psyop.

Oh, as a playful follow-up... yes, I can count. :-P Marvel Rivals is on Season 7, but they started with *drum roll* Season 0.

Goofy goober stuff, but 7 seasons plus "Season 0" is 8 total seasons. Guffaw.

I might be purrsuaded to do some chores for cat armor, ZOS. To go on cats collected in game. No, I don’t just mean Zerith-var.

I am firmly on the side of, wait until the refreshes roll out before calling to nerf anything.

If Sorc was the first one rolled out for its refresh, everyone would be calling for that class to be nerfed too. Because that's the whole point of the refresh... To raise each of the classes up. Clearly it worked very well so far. Be patient, learn to enjoy being whipped and wait for your class to get its turn bring upgraded.