You'd all be the boss over me. If I had a PvP character, it'd be named Canon Fodder.

I am going to argue those "veteran PvPers" would stop playing ESO PvP alltogether if there would be ever any kind of balance between classes and builds in ESO PvP. Yeah, of course they like GH more because you can get carried by your god builds there. Vengeance is not boring it is balanced. Talk about build freedom of GH and then use exact same one build together with all sweaties throughout whole patch and then change to the next god build next patch. And enjoy clearing the more casual folk or players that dont go meta easier. Doesnt look like build freedom to me.

All those hardcore ESO PvP streamers and Youtubers with K/D counters on their screen suddenly stop streaming and posting videos. Yeah yeah, they dont like Vengeance. That should be the reason

Is it that or are you missing your stupid OP Maarselok builds, or DK one shot combos or Damage Skill Line stack subclass meta? Your proc sets to carry your damage for you? Medium armor high sustain, high healing, high dmg, high crit, high mobility, speed cap streak, high hp builds to carry you? Is that what you miss?

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And vengeance is 100% nightblades so what is your point?

Well, i am going to say the sweaties that love to chase me in GH with their carry builds use nightblades in Veng. So you have a point. It is a tad stronger right now. But it is definitely not 100%. You play against Templars, Wardens, there are a lot of Magsorcs. There are actually 4 - 5 different classes involving at any fight. And most importantly NB is deadly but they are not also fast + tanky. That is what most matters. You can run away from them easily if you build for it, or you can attack and kill them. There are tradeoffs. No more carry builds, maybe not balanced, maybe stronger but not complete carry builds. Yes, it is not balanced still, but much much better than what is happening in GH rn.

In Vengeance right now you can fight against any class and if you die it will still be on you. The power gap is not that much between the builds. If someone kills you, they are probably better at weaving/rotation, they are not carried by their builds. In GH good luck in fights if you are not going to play one certain playstyle.

And what i love most about Vengeance is that the skills are distinct now. You dont fire 5 abilities at once. Streak has cooldown. Overload is its own skill, fires separately. Other abilities similarly. Fights are clearer. No GH chaos anymore with noone knowing what is happening on the field. And for that reason there were tremendous amount of new players in Cyrodiil tonight that were low level but still can understand and enjoy fights going on. That is why Vengeance will be successful, that is if they keep it that simple in the future. It doesnt need to be a button or mouse mesh simulator for it to contain skillful gameplay.

Ok even weirder, logged into a character that only did some repairing (new toon, needed continuous attack for the gallop) so not even eligible for AD rewards, and got a for the pact reward too.

King Joruun got drunk and messed with the EP's payroll again.

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spantifical wrote: »

Thanks for the shoutout and enjoy the list!! Hope it helps.

And pardon the mess in my libraries....placing books is such a pain. They're sorted by source in alphabetical order. So left to right is Bastion Nymics, Clockwork City, Coldharbour, etc.

Also, we get 2 books a week for sale in Infinite Archive for 1,000 archival fortunes each. You still need to know the eidetic memory to buy them, but it's a great way to speed up collecting them all.

Any chance for a PC EU house that has this?

I have PC NA and PC EU houses. Just look for "Span's Guild Hall" in Home Tours. (Make sure you aren't under "recommended" houses.) Once at my guild hall, look for the greenhouse. That's the library. Though feel free to use any of the other amenities as well!

Been trying to find youf house in game unsuccessfully.

The game defaults you to "Recommended" houses. Be sure to choose "Browse Homes" instead. Then type in "spantifical" in the search bar. You should find "Span's Guild Hall" there.

Hope that helps!

I also just edited the website to include a script you can use right in the in-game chat box to get there. Sadly, the formatting of the forums kept changing the script.

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Four_Fingers wrote: »

When Vengeance finally goes live and the seasoned PvP players that have been sitting it out return, I wonder how long it will be till posts show up whining that they are still getting killed.

Did this actually happen? Lol. I'm genuinely asking because I like to play both GH and the Vengeance test but the only ones that were whining were the GH sweats that didn't have their crutches available in Vengeance, lol

Yeah I noticed alot of people complaining that veng was only for zergs and how it was impossible to solo. Then I and a few others had no issues 1vXing and doing all the same things I normally would. I could still pull people into towers or chokeholds to 1vX. I could make a group and kite enemies into seige spots like trapping enemies in holes then oiling them.

Maybe its just because Im an old PvPer who remembers smallman pvping without all of the handholding most "elite" coordinated groups have with their group stacking sets that give them 10x a normal player's stats while fully immune to all CC. IDK it feels like the 2014-2015 era pvp where you needed map knowledge and actual kiting skills.

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Call me crazy but looks like you listed 11 different ways to play…

Well i listed 3 builds actually. 1: DoT with Maarselok (10% usage). 2: DK (60%), 3: Damage/Burst lines subclass (15%). You can use Shalks instead of Heart of Flame or Blastbones in another damage/burst line. You can use another glyph and one other trait than your friend. Does it really change your build or playstyle meaningfully? And everything else i listed are just used by all three of these. From medium armor to weapon dmg stack to speed cap unlimited sprint to high hp to unlimited sustain to godly dmg to crits/ block healing, extreme burst/proc sets. Just the same OP playstyle and build.

I am going to give you an example about what i mean. Before hybridization patch and all the chaos afterwards, there used to be 12 playstyles. Each class with stam and magicka versions. Magsorc played differently than stamsorc, stamblade was deadly but squishy, had hat shade gameplay. And then there was magblade with cloak and resto shield for healing when in cloak. There was Templar that could block and heal better than everyone else staying alive in dense areas. Magsorc could run away with Streak. And then there was DK which was master of DoTs and could burn you if you get close. These are the different playstyles. Today you just slot medium armor and damage lines, stack weapon dmg and crits and just sprint at your opponent at speed cap to hit them with 5 different abilities at once without any gameplay whatsoever. You get hit by stupid unrealted combos like Snipe + Overload + Crushing + Pulse + Crystal Weapon + Winterborn in a single GCD. Why?