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Re: Nevermind
Greetings,
We are going to go ahead and close this thread as per the request of the original poster.
The Elder Scrolls Online Team
We are going to go ahead and close this thread as per the request of the original poster.
The Elder Scrolls Online Team
ZOS_Icy
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Re: How would you streamline the release schedule?
i would not change it, ZOS is releasing things when they are ready which seems best to me.
i am guessing it will likely be the same kind of schedule every year.
- January, first season of the year (except this year)
- March, first update.
- April, second season.
- June, update.
- July, third season.
- late August or early September, update.
- October, fourth season.
- late October or early November, fourth update.
Each update adding the next Season. Features like Class or Werewolf refresh release with update launch.
Each season is 3 full months, events and some features like trials or stories release after their update during the season.
got the above picture from the Seasons intro post:
https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/69137
ZOS also released a season roadmap with the launch of season 0, the same will likely happen with each future season.
They have gotten better with giving dates for things in advance, we know Zeal of Zenithar's dates 2 months in advance.
https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/roadmap
hopefully my comment helps a bit.
i am guessing it will likely be the same kind of schedule every year.
- January, first season of the year (except this year)
- March, first update.
- April, second season.
- June, update.
- July, third season.
- late August or early September, update.
- October, fourth season.
- late October or early November, fourth update.
Each update adding the next Season. Features like Class or Werewolf refresh release with update launch.
Each season is 3 full months, events and some features like trials or stories release after their update during the season.
got the above picture from the Seasons intro post:
https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/69137
ZOS also released a season roadmap with the launch of season 0, the same will likely happen with each future season.
They have gotten better with giving dates for things in advance, we know Zeal of Zenithar's dates 2 months in advance.
https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/roadmap
hopefully my comment helps a bit.
Re: It’s Time. Drop the Class System.
To start with, classes were the primary way of making exclusionary choices for your character. By choosing a class, you put the skill lines of the other classes out of reach, and that meant foor other classes, for a total of twelve skill lines. Then they added Necromancer, Warden and Arcanist, so now it's twenty-one excluded skill lines. (I don't understand why people still
appear to want more).
Race is similar, but there are only sets of minor passives involved there. Race could have been the primary vehicle for exclusion, but they picked class instead.
At some point, someone decided that twenty-one unavailable skill lines was too much, so sub-classing was brought in. It probably went too far in allowing two lines to be swapped out, but that's debatable. Either way, all skill lines are on the table for an existing character, which is good, but the player still has to make a choice of which to exclude. As with all compromises, not everyone is going to happy, especially those who don't understand why they can't have everything.
Classic D&D goes to the opposite extreme, with the choice of class excluding armor and weapon choices, types of spells etc. Early TES single-player games had aspects of that, but more graded. Wearing heavy armor might make you unable to cast much of a spell, for example, but didn't prevent it completely. ESO retains some biases in that direction, but it's possible to be a staff-wielding tank in light armor if you try.
So the real question here is what skills to we want to tie to, or exclude because of, other skills? Do we link armor to weapon, so Heavy armor can't use staves? Light can't use shields? Do we tone that down to making the skills weaker (which gets implemented as synergies to make it look positive)? They're currently doing the cross-skill-line synergy thing in the class overhauls, I notice.
If every player can cherry-pick without consequences, it becomes a uniform boring result, because at any time there will be a best choice. We need some sticky decisions that the player has to make, and live with, or there won't be ANY identity. Class is as good as any.
appear to want more).
Race is similar, but there are only sets of minor passives involved there. Race could have been the primary vehicle for exclusion, but they picked class instead.
At some point, someone decided that twenty-one unavailable skill lines was too much, so sub-classing was brought in. It probably went too far in allowing two lines to be swapped out, but that's debatable. Either way, all skill lines are on the table for an existing character, which is good, but the player still has to make a choice of which to exclude. As with all compromises, not everyone is going to happy, especially those who don't understand why they can't have everything.
Classic D&D goes to the opposite extreme, with the choice of class excluding armor and weapon choices, types of spells etc. Early TES single-player games had aspects of that, but more graded. Wearing heavy armor might make you unable to cast much of a spell, for example, but didn't prevent it completely. ESO retains some biases in that direction, but it's possible to be a staff-wielding tank in light armor if you try.
So the real question here is what skills to we want to tie to, or exclude because of, other skills? Do we link armor to weapon, so Heavy armor can't use staves? Light can't use shields? Do we tone that down to making the skills weaker (which gets implemented as synergies to make it look positive)? They're currently doing the cross-skill-line synergy thing in the class overhauls, I notice.
If every player can cherry-pick without consequences, it becomes a uniform boring result, because at any time there will be a best choice. We need some sticky decisions that the player has to make, and live with, or there won't be ANY identity. Class is as good as any.
ghastley
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Re: Lack of sanitary items
It's funny, in many MMOs with housing, the bathroom isn't thought about. My ships and houses in swtor many years ago, no bathroom. ESO has no bathroom. In fallout 76, they started releasing bathroom items and I was awe struck. Such a simple thing, a shower, a toilet and a sink to place as you please. Yes it's a more modern setting, meaning it's very obvious when your build is missing it, and the world has tons of bathrooms but these poor citizens of Tamriel. Maybe this explains all the cults and trouble. The 3 banners war, because the white gold tower has a bathroom.
twisttop138
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Re: So wait, PvPers no longer have an event where we can earn Trade Bars by PvPing?
Im a pvper, I dont even know what a tome or a bar is. Endeavor? Never heard of her.
In all seriousness we always cry for pvp rewards, but what is there to reward? Older players like me or even players 2-3 years in that only pvp have next to no needs. Just going down my list all I could care about is maybe potion mats, gold mats to try new gear, gold food mats......and thats about it.
I suppose event tickets for account unlocks would be the only other thing I could care about, if there was anything special like cosmetics, mounts, or titles that are usable in pvp.
In all seriousness we always cry for pvp rewards, but what is there to reward? Older players like me or even players 2-3 years in that only pvp have next to no needs. Just going down my list all I could care about is maybe potion mats, gold mats to try new gear, gold food mats......and thats about it.
I suppose event tickets for account unlocks would be the only other thing I could care about, if there was anything special like cosmetics, mounts, or titles that are usable in pvp.
IMO having the ap vendors selling perfect tristat potions was a mistake. You would have been better off having a lesser potion for new players sold there. Then had AP purchasable alchemy mats to drive the ingame economy and incentivize pvp. Even looking at IC the only reason I go there is for hakeijos and alchemy bags. Sadly other systems could have been made to give pvp rewards to sell. For instance scribing skills could have had scripts purchaseable in pvp which could have been sold into the market as consumables upon crafting instead of the goofy throwaway currency that has no weight.
On the flip side zos could revitilize the ap vendors to sell pve gear. So you could get non perfected trial gear with ap boxes. Giving PvP players entry into pve content without having to grind for months to get into a proper pve guild. Bridge the barrier to entry for content giving people better chances at socializing and potentially continue playing the game.
Transmutes are a decent reason to pvp.....however it is not a consistent thing. Players join, run to a keep, get a single tick and log out for the monthly reward. Cmon for me to even get a single monster helm its atleast 30mins to an hour....Sometimes hours of dragging cp160 pugs through a vet dlc dungeon on a pvp character having to tank, dps, and heal for them at the same time. Getting a shoulder is a good couple of hours of farming pledges for keys still. Can we just reward people for actually doing the content. Maybe actually reward people for getting a PvP Kill or healing someone on the brink of death?
On the flip side zos could revitilize the ap vendors to sell pve gear. So you could get non perfected trial gear with ap boxes. Giving PvP players entry into pve content without having to grind for months to get into a proper pve guild. Bridge the barrier to entry for content giving people better chances at socializing and potentially continue playing the game.
Transmutes are a decent reason to pvp.....however it is not a consistent thing. Players join, run to a keep, get a single tick and log out for the monthly reward. Cmon for me to even get a single monster helm its atleast 30mins to an hour....Sometimes hours of dragging cp160 pugs through a vet dlc dungeon on a pvp character having to tank, dps, and heal for them at the same time. Getting a shoulder is a good couple of hours of farming pledges for keys still. Can we just reward people for actually doing the content. Maybe actually reward people for getting a PvP Kill or healing someone on the brink of death?
Re: April 20th Vengeance Only..
Skill to zerg people? You hardly can find 1v1, hardly can avoid zerging. I used to take recourse solo and then kite, survive and kill as much as I can, but in Vengeance you just can't do it effectively. 3 people with 90% chance will kill you if you try to attack, so all you can is run and wait until there is only one enemy.
Can't kill against a 1v3? Skill issue, git gud
Man the ESO brainrot is real. In what game is it reasonable to 1v10 and win?
Re: April 20th Vengeance Only..
I trusted them when they said Vengeance was a test, but it is clear now that they intend to just add it as a separate mode to further split the community and "teach" people how to PvP in a way that doesn't apply outside that one specific gamemode...
I was so excited to see them try to fix the performance issues of Cyrodiil to bring about a new age of massive three-faction open-world PvP in this game with so many sets and skill combinations... now I'm worried we won't see that, and instead just see the performance improvements only in Vengeance and continued population issues in Grey Host.
Man, I just want a performant Grey Host. Imagine how cool that would be...
I was so excited to see them try to fix the performance issues of Cyrodiil to bring about a new age of massive three-faction open-world PvP in this game with so many sets and skill combinations... now I'm worried we won't see that, and instead just see the performance improvements only in Vengeance and continued population issues in Grey Host.
Man, I just want a performant Grey Host. Imagine how cool that would be...
Re: April 20th Vengeance Only..
albertberku wrote: »How confident it makes some players, getting the most OP build every patch, opening a K/D counter and then just looking for the group of most casual players they can find. And then just sprint in circles around structures, use one ultimate in between, kill the most squishy ones and then call it a 3vX, 2vX, 1vX. Pro GH players, PvP Veterans.
I apologise on behalf of the entire PvP community for whatever trauma you endured in GH. Must have been tough seeing how it lingers in every single one of your words.
Alas, I am thrilled that Vengeance with its combination of 5 or so pre-made builds is bringing you the pleasure you clearly so desperately crave ❤️
Poss
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Re: April 20th Vengeance Only..
CatalinaWineMixer2 wrote: »The current state of PvP is due to constant nerfs, ruining sets, ruining/nerfing our characters, Subclassing and placing what's left of what was once a fun and vibrant PvP comunity above the rest of the entire Eso population. We all talk about how it used to be. Most of the people who do have quit PvP. Some of the new players look at us like we are telling a fairytale when we speak of it. It’s been going on for ten years. We need change. Vengeance is a part of this and there are many looking forward to it.
lol
SneaK
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