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Re: is there a list somewhere of the hidden pre-requisites to obtaining furniture loot?
As it turns out @spantifical has compiled such list:
https://www.spantifical.com/lootable-lorebooks
She also has publicly accessible houses with the entire collection of lorebooks to make player's life easier. If you visit her 'library' and read the books there you will obtain the required eidetic memory that enables you to acquire them yourself.
Thank you so much!!!!
And shoutout to @spantifical for the work put into this!
Ruj
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Re: Why do pants exist in this game when the jacket always covers it anyway?
Thankfully not every style has Tassets or Loincloths.
i started a thread 2 years ago where i list all the styles without them
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/650919/list-of-outfit-styles-without-tassets-and-loincloths-will-try-to-update/p1?new=1
and zos has acknowledged the request during the update 49 January 12 livestream, so hopefully they are working on hide options.
i started a thread 2 years ago where i list all the styles without them
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/650919/list-of-outfit-styles-without-tassets-and-loincloths-will-try-to-update/p1?new=1
and zos has acknowledged the request during the update 49 January 12 livestream, so hopefully they are working on hide options.
Re: Wisteria's motivation? (Tanlorin's questline, text includes spoilers)
I honestly think people hold non-binary characters to a higher standard than other characters. Like complaining about pronouns. Wisteria is a spy for the Garland Ring and a high level person within their organization. Tanlorin is her lover. Yes, the enemies would know who Tanlorin is and therefore can be expected to use the correct pronouns.
Tanlorin is also not good at everything. And is absolutely not a perfect character. Tanlorin is childish, insecure, and canonically annoying to some people. That's a big part of why they love the Garland Ring so much. The Garland Ring "gets" Tanlorin and helped them hone their skills and accepted them for who they are while their family was abusive and they were shunned and cast out by Altmer society.
As for Wisteria's motivations, I got the same idea about her motivations as you did. She believes in Altmer supremacy but also thinks all Altmer should be equal because they're all better than the lesser races. So, she doesn't like either Aryenn or the current Altmer society and wants to reshape it into her own vision by doing a coup. Her vision as a leader of society is more important to her than her romance with Tanlorin. But she wants to have both ideally and cares for Tanlorin deeply.
Tanlorin and Wisteria spent a lot of time together. So, she got to know Tanlorin on a much deeper level than even the player gets to.
As for Tanlorin being childish. She has significantly less education than other Altmer and copes with trauma with humor. Which is actually a fairly common form of coping for people with depression. It's not crazy that a young adult from an abusive home has less formal education than others and uses humor to cope. In fact, Tanlorin actually doesn't even like books because their abuse was specifically related to education. So, them seeing a plant and being like "its crazy to think we get clothes from that," isn't out of place.
As for the style of humor, it is very much US early 2000s coded. I wouldn't be surprised if a Millennial American wrote it.
Tanlorin is also not good at everything. And is absolutely not a perfect character. Tanlorin is childish, insecure, and canonically annoying to some people. That's a big part of why they love the Garland Ring so much. The Garland Ring "gets" Tanlorin and helped them hone their skills and accepted them for who they are while their family was abusive and they were shunned and cast out by Altmer society.
As for Wisteria's motivations, I got the same idea about her motivations as you did. She believes in Altmer supremacy but also thinks all Altmer should be equal because they're all better than the lesser races. So, she doesn't like either Aryenn or the current Altmer society and wants to reshape it into her own vision by doing a coup. Her vision as a leader of society is more important to her than her romance with Tanlorin. But she wants to have both ideally and cares for Tanlorin deeply.
Tanlorin and Wisteria spent a lot of time together. So, she got to know Tanlorin on a much deeper level than even the player gets to.
As for Tanlorin being childish. She has significantly less education than other Altmer and copes with trauma with humor. Which is actually a fairly common form of coping for people with depression. It's not crazy that a young adult from an abusive home has less formal education than others and uses humor to cope. In fact, Tanlorin actually doesn't even like books because their abuse was specifically related to education. So, them seeing a plant and being like "its crazy to think we get clothes from that," isn't out of place.
As for the style of humor, it is very much US early 2000s coded. I wouldn't be surprised if a Millennial American wrote it.
Re: U50 Feedback Thread for Class Mastery
Class Mastery points could be based on how many subclasses the character has. If you subclass just one skill line, you get just 1 point.
Re: A social issue people are reluctant to bring up
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ZOS_Icy
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Re: April 20th Vengeance Only..
ToddIngram wrote: »Less than 1 in 5 PvP mains will play vengeance. If you take a poll of PvP mains you'll see this is the case.
Correction: "Less than 1 in 5 PvP forum mains will play vengeance. ". If you sample from forum PvPers, you will get the responses of only forum PvPers, which as should be obvious by now, are not even vaguely representative of the actual PvP or PvE populations. This not only doesn't prove what you want it to prove, but also validates the disconnect further.
ToddIngram wrote: »And we all saw the last "test" when people had a choice between GH and vengeance, GH was pop locked while vengeance had one bar or less.
It's truly wondrous that Vengeance was so terrible it managed to break ESO's rendering, upload the new icon to Zenimax servers, and drop to 0 bars! Or perhaps it was -1 bars?
ToddIngram wrote: »the fact is when people have a choice, vengeance is deserted while GH is pop locked
You would have had a point here if ZOS hadn't spent the last years silently collapsing the population limit as the PvP population dwindled. A third of a jug still holds more water than a full shot glass. Besides, who has the "choice"? Casual gamers have a practically infinite range of activities to do, and Vengeance is only one of them. They can't be faulted for not living in the new game mode simply for it having the virtue of not being an insufferable AP grinder of ballgroups and bombers.
ToddIngram wrote: »this is why ZOS is removing GH as an option this time around in an effort to artificially inflate participation numbers
And yet if PvPers server-wide dislike Vengeance as much as you claim, then they would not go to Vengeance anyway, as you don't, and retire for a week. And if the PvErs dislike or at best tolerate Vengeance, why would deleting GH (which they hate even more) suddenly encourage them to go Vengeance? Those are independent events from a PvEr's perspective. So by your logic, it should be deserted. Then can you explain to me why I was sitting in population queues in the hundreds the last time I queued?
Or of course, if the conclusion is wrong, perhaps we need to look at the assumptions behind it.
ToddIngram wrote: »No amount of hyping by the vocal minority will change that.
Pot, meet kettle.
Re: Preview bug
Preview is not working for me on any crafting stations, R works to craft but T for preview does not. Has anybody else had this problem?
Do you use the addon HearthHome Filter? Check the comment section of that addon on esoui. There you can find a fix.Having the same issue at crafting stations - R works to craft but T for preview does not. When I press T to preview the item I need to craft, I exit the craft station !!!
Aylish
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Re: A social issue people are reluctant to bring up
The issue of toxic players cannot be entirely placed upon the developers. I have no doubt that every one of them is against that kind of behavior. That is not why they have designed the game. People are just going to be people whether they are awful or not. Eso is supposed to be a form of entertainment and enjoyment. Some people with these toxic attitudes find that kind of behavior to BE their entertainment sadly.
Rest assured there are many more of us (honest, patient, good hearted and kind) than there are of them.
@Athory Spot on again! Eso was best on console before add ons. People had to actually LEARN to navigate the dungeons, not rely on a mini map. People had to actually practice content and learn the mechs, not rely on alerts to play the game for them. Without them, Zos might have actually had to build its own built in price checker and many other good things over a decade.
@ZOS_Kevin Someone's personal DPS is NO ONE ELSE'S business. It is absolutely 100 percent a terrible thing for this game. The dps tracking add ons should be immediately removed. Advocates for this tool can still do share screen or other methods if the dps they want to view gives them permission to do so through said methods. People who are listed in these addons do not have a say in the matter and that is wrong. I regret not speaking out about this sooner.
Rest assured there are many more of us (honest, patient, good hearted and kind) than there are of them.
@Athory Spot on again! Eso was best on console before add ons. People had to actually LEARN to navigate the dungeons, not rely on a mini map. People had to actually practice content and learn the mechs, not rely on alerts to play the game for them. Without them, Zos might have actually had to build its own built in price checker and many other good things over a decade.
@ZOS_Kevin Someone's personal DPS is NO ONE ELSE'S business. It is absolutely 100 percent a terrible thing for this game. The dps tracking add ons should be immediately removed. Advocates for this tool can still do share screen or other methods if the dps they want to view gives them permission to do so through said methods. People who are listed in these addons do not have a say in the matter and that is wrong. I regret not speaking out about this sooner.