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Re: The Silence On Antiquity Leads Is Defeaning!
Since everyone got hung up on my "instant gratification" comment, 1 in 4 chances is pretty well instant gratification
It's literally definitionally not. 1 in 1 is instant. 1 in 4 is anywhere between 1 and infinity though the odds of it reaching infinity are ~0, it doesn't mean you get it in 4. Nor is there a difference in the reward.
Currently boss leads have a drop rate between 5% to 10%. So statistically getting it within 20, doesn't mean it won't take you 82 kills of Timershade, or 73 kills of the Voidmother.
The 25% I suggested in my OP is the last in a long line of suggestions. I've suggested dynamic drop rates, capped drop rates, leads as rewards - all ignored with zero comment.
There is not even 1 in 1.
The current wisdom is that since the release of Gold Road the first instance of every lead - at least when it comes to mythics - is 'guaranteed'. This holds true most of the time alas in one of my accounts I had to run HoF three times to get the lead.
How did this happen when other players in my groups did get it (I run LootLog and I could clearly see 11 instances of the lead dropping) I have no idea.
But if 'guaranteed' under who knows what circumstances can become 'high chance' what happens when 'extremely low chance' hits that set of unspecified circumstances?
As opposed to let's say FO76 where one can quite easily 'datamine' the levelled lists (or could anyway, I quit after burning out in the closed beta of Wastelanders, compounded by the realisation that they were never going to implement modding in any meaningful way) in the case of ESO this is completely opaque to the player; there is no way to tell if there is something awry (in the case of FO76 they famously have set the 'chance to drop' in levelled lists to negative on at least two occasions I can remember) at work unless the devs come forward and say 'we looked into it, we found something awry and we fixed it' and then players can confirm that it was in fact fixed (it would not be the first, second or even fifth time that players have found something unintended with drop rates, including something not dropping at all, and the dev's default reply has been 'we have looked into it and everything is fine' only for a few hours/days later come back and contradict themselves).
IMO this whole system needs a 'deep dive' and a serious QoL pass because for everyone that is not a glutton for punishment it is a reliable source of frustration rather than entertainment.
A guildmate and I were just having this conversation as we're both also players of fallout 76 though not as much anymore. It's a mess over there folks. But being able to see the drip chances of every item, yea this is still a thing, to see corrections and errors is beneficial. Also disheartening when you see a drop chance is 0.67% or something wild like that. Still though, it's plain as day. I'm amazed Zos goes to such lengths to keep these hidden.
Leads can be crazy. We need some kind of improvement. In this year of QoL what we're seeing a lot is monkey paw versions of what we asked for. And in this new era of communication and transparency, what we're seeing is that after they sold us tomes, they went right back to how they were before. So second verse, same as the first. Disappointing but predictable.
Re: The Silence On Antiquity Leads Is Defeaning!
Thinking of Tide-Glass Beads and Petrified Oak Loop makes me shudder...
Re: You've nerfed the worst class in this PTS
Urzigurumash wrote: »NB needs huge buffs. Easily all its tooltips could be tripled and it would be still be lightyears behind the PVP God Classes like Necro and Arcanist
At this point necro and arcanist are way stronger
Prionyx
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Re: You've nerfed the worst class in this PTS
Did you describe the burst of Nightblade as Incap + Surprise attack instead of Merciless Resolve, the hardest hitting skill in the game? Dragonknight is the king of burst without contest; but Nightblade is and will be even moreso the 2nd best burst.
I am not at all concerned for Nightblade burst or gankers, because they will shred as always. I am concerned about what lies outside of this. What will you do in an age of wing spammers who half your spectral bow's damage and have far beyond 30k HP? If you cannot burst them (no ranged class currently can. Traditional Sorc suffers in this same regard) then they get up and heal to full.
Every other class you can most likely eat up, except toxic Wardens who break things with Shimmering Shield. But what other playstyle do you have besides burst? That is the real question, and I think Nightblade is in this one-sided category and has not many (strong enough) options outside of that. Surprise Attack is top 3 of the best spammables in pvp, but you will not pressured a meta HoT build with this alone.
Please read my post before texting something like this
Why didn't I take incap+merciless "combo" into consideration? Because anyone who have played PVP for at least a few weeks will always dodge merciless. It's not guaranteed, predictable and there is too much time to react. Back in the day I thought it may take some reaction, but in reality it doesn't. Found it out in a few funny ways: I tried playing PC NA for a bit where I have 300 ping and I dodged every single merciless after incap, didn't get hit a single time. But that's nothing, once I logged to duel my friend when I came back after my other friend's birthday where we had a drinking game that didn't go well for me, I guess at this point I had 1000+ ping inside my head but I still dodged all of the bow procs. It doesn't take reaction or skill to dodge it at all. But even if I would take it into consideration incap+merciless still deals less damage than db+bb+bfb, let alone DK's combo.
Anyone with half a brain will dodge incap+merciless, if you take it into consideration then I"ll say arcanist is op because arc can kill anyone if they just stand and eat their beam, because it's the same thing as not doding bow after incap
NB doesn't have any burst whatsoever compared to other classes
Prionyx
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Re: You've nerfed the worst class in this PTS
@Urzigurumash 😂
@Prionyx On a serious note though NB is easily the second/third best pure class. It had one shot potential prior to class masteries, now it has even more crit damage.
They increased the NBs crit damage cap, now even on all impen you will be getting hit like you aren’t wearing any crit resistance
Is this a joke? Have you even read the post? You'd never reach NBs crit damage cap + NB doesn't have any burst or "one shot potential"|, stop complaining about NB if it's just a class you don't like and want it nerfed
Prionyx
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Re: The Silence On Antiquity Leads Is Defeaning!
Since everyone got hung up on my "instant gratification" comment, 1 in 4 chances is pretty well instant gratification
It's literally definitionally not. 1 in 1 is instant. 1 in 4 is anywhere between 1 and infinity though the odds of it reaching infinity are ~0, it doesn't mean you get it in 4. Nor is there a difference in the reward.
Currently boss leads have a drop rate between 5% to 10%. So statistically getting it within 20, doesn't mean it won't take you 82 kills of Timershade, or 73 kills of the Voidmother.
The 25% I suggested in my OP is the last in a long line of suggestions. I've suggested dynamic drop rates, capped drop rates, leads as rewards - all ignored with zero comment.
There is not even 1 in 1.
The current wisdom is that since the release of Gold Road the first instance of every lead - at least when it comes to mythics - is 'guaranteed'. This holds true most of the time alas in one of my accounts I had to run HoF three times to get the lead.
How did this happen when other players in my groups did get it (I run LootLog and I could clearly see 11 instances of the lead dropping) I have no idea.
But if 'guaranteed' under who knows what circumstances can become 'high chance' what happens when 'extremely low chance' hits that set of unspecified circumstances?
As opposed to let's say FO76 where one can quite easily 'datamine' the levelled lists (or could anyway, I quit after burning out in the closed beta of Wastelanders, compounded by the realisation that they were never going to implement modding in any meaningful way) in the case of ESO this is completely opaque to the player; there is no way to tell if there is something awry (in the case of FO76 they famously have set the 'chance to drop' in levelled lists to negative on at least two occasions I can remember) at work unless the devs come forward and say 'we looked into it, we found something awry and we fixed it' and then players can confirm that it was in fact fixed (it would not be the first, second or even fifth time that players have found something unintended with drop rates, including something not dropping at all, and the dev's default reply has been 'we have looked into it and everything is fine' only for a few hours/days later come back and contradict themselves).
IMO this whole system needs a 'deep dive' and a serious QoL pass because for everyone that is not a glutton for punishment it is a reliable source of frustration rather than entertainment.
ApoAlaia
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Re: Conservation of Energy needs to be adjusted for the health of the game
Healing can be addressed, but sustain should not be touched for this mastery.
I like the exclusion of max hp scaling. In the long run they should address max hp scaling for shielding too.
I like the exclusion of max hp scaling. In the long run they should address max hp scaling for shielding too.
Yudo
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Re: Request: Crossplay FAQ
Just prepare for an economic change for starters. When Warframe did crossplay pc players welcomed them but at least 75% of all console players got muted within the first hour because of some of the stuff they were saying. It was insane.
Re: Request: Crossplay FAQ
GeneralGrundmann wrote: »Well, yeah, would be nice to know.
But it will be quite some time until crossplay finally arrives and I would prefere a FAQ with some final decisions short before the release of crossplay instead of planned and/or work in progress updates now.
I won't like only some final decisions short before the release of crossplay.
I hope we will be given some details way before the process final. I also hope devs would consider the feedback on the mentioned details.
Because things like names collision are really sensitive for many.
Re: U50 Feedback Thread for Class Mastery
Stamsorc and magsorc will 100% be the 2nd or at least 3rd strongest spec in the game after this patch goes live, guaranteed. We gaming now fellas
Stamsorc will 100% be up there with DK and WW, but it's not like stamsorc was ever hurting thanks to sub-classing that gave that specific spec (what is essentially the "non-class" spec of ESO) it's entire own class that could pick from everything in the game.
As for magsorc, it will be decent, but not at stamsorcs level, especially a magsorc that wants to try and use Sorcerer skills instead of just being a copy paste "inferior blue stamsorc" like in the past, since until we get the refresh there's very little worth using from Sorcerers active abilities outside of the main few (streak, hurricane, pets for pet builds).
