I don't like talking to AI, I'm definitely not going to argue back and forth with it or read through AI slop, but there are also legitimate uses for it as some have explained. I suppose as long as AI isn't simply being used to spam and the posts don't otherwise violate the forum rules, I really don't see zos actually spending resources trying to determine which posts were or were not written using AI.

And some people actually do write in a similar style to AI; it's not always easy to tell. (In many cases it's quite obvious though).

But overall if people have a point to make and want to actually convince others, I encourage them to try and write in their own words and stick to relying on AI as a tool to create an outline that one fills in with their own thoughts, and/or to clean up one's writing after the fact if they struggle with it or if, for example, English is not their primary language.

As someone who essentially argues for a living and now has to deal with interns using AI, I will say that AI does an atrocious job: it frequently overlooks important details or favors random, trivial points over convincing ones; it has trouble staying consistent and will happily argue against its own points or change its arguments around to suit the prompt; and it hallucinates and needs to be fact checked.

(Or not the same as an outright hallucination, but it pulls from unreliable sources - particularly for something like ESO, where there are limited verified or "official" sources for AI to use - in playing around with it, I have found that it often takes bits and pieces from forum posts or reddit and treats them as fact).

Not to mention it excels at telling the user exactly what they *want* it to tell them, thus acting as an echo chamber instead of encouraging one to evaluate their own ideas or listen to constructive criticism.

Same! 100%. Busy with life stuff. So grinding or build crafting is lame as F. I want to start the game and have fun right away. Cool concept, super fun. Hope it stays!

I‘d rather read some AI generated comments that are kind of constructive than those „no I don‘t want this“, „I don‘t like that“ comments of some forum members without any substance.
If it helps disordered people or those that are simply no native speakers to point out what they mean, it shouldn‘t bother anyone.

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LadyGP wrote: »

First, and most importantly IMO, PVP in MMOs is supposed to be hard. There are simply players who are better than me and will kick my butt everytime I run into them - that is just a fact. I know there are people who if I try to 1v1 them I'll get dominated everytime - and that is perfectly fine and healthy for a game. Having a skill gap forces me to want to improve, look at logs and figure out were my weakness is, etc. It's the same as hardcore trial groups who min/man the crap out of things.

Most of your post is absolutely okay. No, it is good, actually. The only part I disagree is the quote here. Strongly.
Most sports are organised in a way where beginners and pros don't compete with one another. The pro would be bored and the beginner just frustrated. If a good player breaks this rule to take advantage of the skill gap, he is considered a bad sportsman. Quickly nobody - neither the noobs nor the pros - are playing with him.

GH until now is that: You get killed without having a chance to counter it as you lack experience. If you're lucky, someone is resurrecting or a camp is up. Most often you are not. You have to ride. You arrive and get killed fast. If you arrive and aren't ganked on your way. You ride again. Until you don't and just give up. It would be okay if this would happen every now and then. Bad luck on the battlefield. But it happens all the time. The time needed to close the gap is too much for me and for many of my friends. So we don't play the mode. I accepted this long time ago (except painful events to get some stupid goodies because I refuse learing from my mistakes) and was very surprised to see that ZoS might be working on a solution.

In your comparison to hardcore trial groups you forget the way to get there: open world, normal dungeons, vet dungeons, normal trials, vet trials, hms, speedruns, no deaths, triples starting with easy trials finishing the really hard ones. You don't have this in PVP. You have <50, empty maps and GH. You cannot say "vet trials" or "easy hms" are fine for me. I don't need more. You need to decide if you go all in or nothing.

Again: I do want GH to remain. I do want ZoS to spend time solving issues there, too. But Vengeance can become the casual mode PVP I am missing in ESO.

I hear you - sports ins't a good comparison though.

Ganking is a legit play style, and I've been ganked more times than I can count.. and it pisses me off every single time it happens but.. it's a valid play style.

I agree 100% it's a brutal player experience if you've never played GH before - vengence is great to get your feet wet and then step up to GH when you're ready. You're still going to get slapped around a bit.. but a person who has been playing in Cyrodiil since the begining should always have the advantage on someone who has never and just stepped in.. sorry but thats just the honest fact.

A begginer isn't going to understand how pull sets work, how ball groups work (they are going to mindlessly chase the ball group and they are "running away" into a choke point to get bombed), they are going to get ganked, etc.

Now, with that being said... I 100% think there needs to be multiple passed on ball groups, ganking sets, TTK, one shot builds, etc. I think if they make these adjustments it would make it so people like you and your friends can have a more enjoyable time, stay alive longer, while not nerfing ball groups to the ground where you end up just making them quit.

Sure, some people would love if ball group people quit the game.. many would probablly.. but do you really want even more people to leave Cyro? I'd argue the hate for ball groups isn't because of the players themself but their skill and ability to use sets that frankly should have been fixed many many years ago. Blame zos for the systems, not the player.

As for the trial comment.. I was just making an off the cuff comment about min/maxing, looking at logs, theory crafting, etc. I'm with you there is a big difference in pvp vs the trial community.

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