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Re: You've nerfed the worst class in this PTS
MincMincMinc wrote: »No, which is why I am asking for buffs tied to its blood-fueled subtheme, such as bleed dot synergies, hp regen synergies, stronger lifesteal, etc and to various brawler style NB specs like "sap tank" or the old axe bleed pressure DDs. They can do this with Mastery.you want to keep class dead for this much time
The inflated crit stats can stay gone forever. Good riddance. But replace them with something that would actually make the class multidimensional, not a burst spec that doesn't burst. Even something like a poison dot synergy (matching the assassin theme) could be cool.
Yeah they need to move nb away from just the niche one trick pony merciless bow proc crit concept.
Bring more damage back to siphoning skills. IMO make siphoning strikes based on hits like it used to with old sap tank brawler back in the IC days.
Move surprise/concealed to shadow. Make surprise attack the flanking damage/stun concept instead of offbalance. Concealed goes back to the invis damage boost and stun. No guaranteed crit or guaranteed sunder.....get rid of that bloat.
Do more with the mark skill for nbs to pick a target to go after instead of just willy nilly offbalance stunning into an undodgeable 25k+ merciless
If someone hits you with 25k merciless with how many defence there is in the game RN then your build is the problem, it doesn't hit more than 12k against normal builds
Prionyx
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Re: Request: Crossplay FAQ
GeneralGrundmann wrote: »Name conflicts are technically almost no issue, for example a "PS Symbol", an "X" or the letters "PC" behind the player name is an easy solution.
For you, that is an acceptable solution.
For people who are deeply into character lore, it’s horribly jarring to see that in universe. We have times where your character name is used in dialogue; a lot of lore-focused players will blanch at going up to Darien and saying “My name is Bob Smith💻” or seeing a note in the world that says “The target is a female Nord named Jane Doe PS.”
A lot of RP-focused players agonize over names for weeks. Seeing it changed in any way is worth an uninstall.
Re: A poll about crossplay
SilverBride wrote: »frogthroat wrote: »Bigger difference than with people playing on EU servers, with dozens of nationalities and cultures? And these people shouldn't mix?SilverBride wrote: »The societal norms are too different.
I wasn't referring to real life societies. I was referring to how we play the game.
For example, I read a thread about how we run Alik'r dolmens on PCNA. Players were confused about us using "x" and "y" and "z" in zone chat for auto invites to the groups. We've done it this way for a very long time but these other players do things differently.
That is the kind of thing I am referring to.
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/667793/are-you-not-confused-by-people-spamming-x-in-chat
For a while we will have people typing "x", "y", "z", "+" and "+dolmen" in Alik'r Desert but it will be unified over time. People adapt.
Those of us who play on both EU and NA will have to adapt anyway. By the beard of Julianos, even on PCEU I need to adapt depending on the guild chat. If I ask for people for a daily random dungeon, in most guilds I need to type "RND" but in my Finnish guild I need to type "nrand".
This is a non-issue. Don't underestimate players this much. "Sorry, no crossplay because Ben could not learn to type x instead of +dolmen."
Re: U50 PTS: Feedback for new Weekly Tome Challenges
Absolutely.RicAlmighty wrote: »players should be rewarded for playing the game the way they want to play, not with a grindy chore list that takes them away from the things they'd rather be doing.
Something that I really hate is the game telling me what to do. I run dungeons and trials on a regular basis, but even after a number of rerolls I didn't get a trial one this week and instead got ones for harvesting resources. Sure, I'll harvest resources if I run across them doing other stuff, but I have zero interest in going out of my way and taking time away from other things that I'd rather do to harvest resources. It's insulting.
I especially hate tasks that are overly specific. Why is it "harvest logs" instead of "harvest resources"? First, by having 5 different harvest tasks, one for each of the resources, it makes it almost impossible to avoid some sort of harvest chore when rerolling. Second, what is the point of this resource-type restriction anyway, aside from frustrating the player? Maybe I'm doing something in Solstice, which has abundant runestones, but I have harvest logs instead of harvest runestones, so all those runestones that I'm getting are not counting for anything. Just completely get rid of the specific resources and replace it with just a single challenge for harvest resources in general.
Why is there a challenge for killing Bogdan or Lord Warden, when there is already a challenge for general group dungeons? Making it highly specific just frustrates players because you're taking choice away from them. Even if you want to funnel players into a smaller subset of dungeons to make grouping easier, why not use the existing pledge system instead? You should completely eliminate the "complete this specific dungeon" challenges and either not replace them (since there is a generic dungeon challenge) or replace them with a "complete pledge" challenge. (And in case anyone wants to say, "But what about the sub-45 players who can't do pledges?", you can't queue for a tier-2 dungeon [for Bogdan] or ICP [for Lord Warden] until level 45 anyway.)
And why do we have a "kill these specific world bosses" challenge instead of a generic "kill world bosses" challenge? Why are you telling someone who is trying to complete a zone and do the world boss dailies in that zone that "no, no, these aren't the world bosses you should be doing". Are you trying to annoy players?
The above are all concerns from Live. As for PTS (since this is the PTS forum), I do like some of the more generic ones that have been added, like complete quests or craft items.
But then there are some overly specific ones. Like complete guild quests (why force people to do a specific quest type when there's a new generic quest challenge? and why so many?) Or manual lockpicking (hey, we worked hard for that force lock chance). Or pickpocketing.
Alright, I get it, there's a theme here: you're releasing new Thieves Guild content so you want to encourage people to do that. That's fine. But, um, isn't that what seasonal challenges are for? Things that are "relevant for this moment" should be in the seasonal category and shouldn't be in weeklies. What if someone wants to engage in the new TG content but ends up getting trials and resource harvesting instead?
code65536
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Re: You've nerfed the worst class in this PTS
@Urzigurumash 😂
@Prionyx On a serious note though NB is easily the second/third best pure class. It had one shot potential prior to class masteries, now it has even more crit damage.
They increased the NBs crit damage cap, now even on all impen you will be getting hit like you aren’t wearing any crit resistance
Is this a joke? Have you even read the post? You'd never reach NBs crit damage cap + NB doesn't have any burst or "one shot potential"|, stop complaining about NB if it's just a class you don't like and want it nerfed
You will get to the cap quite easily actually. NB was reaching 100% crit damage easily pre subclassing, reaching the new cap will be easy.
Ele sus 10% crit damage
Warden is getting 20% crit damage buff
Arcanist has 20% crit damage buff
Mora’s scribe thesis 12% etc
Monomyth 20%
Possible 18% crit damage buff from champion points
Minor force 10% crit damage
There are way more sources of crit damage I haven’t even included
You need 180%+ crit damage to reach crit cap in pvp atm, you'll never reach it unless you are doing this intentionally which doesn't make sense because other damage buffs would give you more, you'd never reach crit cap in a normal circumstances, please stop trying to get NB nerfed because you don't like the class
* Minor force - 10%
* Major force - 20%
* Hemorrhage - 10%
* 3x Medium Armor - 6%
* Fighting Finesse - 8%
* Khajiit - 12%
* Class Mastery - 5%
* Shadow Mundus 11-18%
* Backstabber 10%
* Ele sus 10% (players are always spamming it)
* Warden 20%
I am counting 129% + the base 50% = 179%
I didn’t even include sets here. Not to mention 1000 (2000 in PvE) more weapon and spell damage
I am not saying it should be nerfed. I’m just saying it doesn’t need further buffs. 2 tap play styles aren’t fair or fun especially from an ambush type class. But ZOS is buffing the playstyle and then comes people like you complaining that it’s not enough “buff it more ZOS” come on
Kleoxcv
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Re: U50 Feedback Thread for Combat Refresh: Werewolf
Maybe we can opt out of the U50 Werewolf and just keep using the one from live? I know I'll enjoy it more.
U50 Werewolf handles like a dump truck compared to the live Werewolf, which feels like a sports sedan. Regardless of how much damage it can output, it feels terrible to play.
Skills are delayed and can be easily canceled(not animation cancel, I mean not actually cast) by light attacks and bash. Roar is the biggest offender. The cast time needs to be removed. 0.3s might as well be a full second or longer. If roar has to be delayed, make the impact delayed rather than the cast.
Skills connect at the wrong time if they connect at all. When dueling, at the beginning of a duel, my opponent would be at a distance. I would immediately roll dodge at the start, but take damage from a pounce while they were still standing on the ground at a distance. Then the pounce animation would occur. I can also be attacking an opponent directly in front of me and do zero damage to them.
Heavy attack Werewolf for U50 is dead. It was killed when fast heavy attacks were removed from Roar. New heavy attacks take 2 business days to que.
Hircine's Fortitude heals for 33% less than live, Rip and Tear heal was reduced by nearly half, and Blood Claws is now only a 6 second dot because PvP or something. Hircine's Fortitude needs to be stronger and it needs a HoT and a cross heal.
Are we being serious with the 1 second bleed on Berserker light attacks?
Are we being serious with 10% weapon damage down from 18% on live? This may be okay if we get weapon passives, but we're still waiting.
There were only a small amount of things that I really expected to see for Werewolf with the update:
-Weapon passives
-HoT and/or cross heal for Hircine's Fortitude
-Reduced cost for skills(specifically the heal)
-Improvement in skill functionality:
* Roar range and instant fast heavy attack activation
*Pounce being single cast with Carnage activating on impact.
We got one of those things. Reduced cost for skills. The cost reduction for the heal came with a significant nerf to the healing value.
U50 Werewolf handles like a dump truck compared to the live Werewolf, which feels like a sports sedan. Regardless of how much damage it can output, it feels terrible to play.
Skills are delayed and can be easily canceled(not animation cancel, I mean not actually cast) by light attacks and bash. Roar is the biggest offender. The cast time needs to be removed. 0.3s might as well be a full second or longer. If roar has to be delayed, make the impact delayed rather than the cast.
Skills connect at the wrong time if they connect at all. When dueling, at the beginning of a duel, my opponent would be at a distance. I would immediately roll dodge at the start, but take damage from a pounce while they were still standing on the ground at a distance. Then the pounce animation would occur. I can also be attacking an opponent directly in front of me and do zero damage to them.
Heavy attack Werewolf for U50 is dead. It was killed when fast heavy attacks were removed from Roar. New heavy attacks take 2 business days to que.
Hircine's Fortitude heals for 33% less than live, Rip and Tear heal was reduced by nearly half, and Blood Claws is now only a 6 second dot because PvP or something. Hircine's Fortitude needs to be stronger and it needs a HoT and a cross heal.
Are we being serious with the 1 second bleed on Berserker light attacks?
Are we being serious with 10% weapon damage down from 18% on live? This may be okay if we get weapon passives, but we're still waiting.
There were only a small amount of things that I really expected to see for Werewolf with the update:
-Weapon passives
-HoT and/or cross heal for Hircine's Fortitude
-Reduced cost for skills(specifically the heal)
-Improvement in skill functionality:
* Roar range and instant fast heavy attack activation
*Pounce being single cast with Carnage activating on impact.
We got one of those things. Reduced cost for skills. The cost reduction for the heal came with a significant nerf to the healing value.
Re: SUPRISE ! People dont like VENGEANCE
The Uninvited wrote: »spartaxoxo wrote: »The Uninvited wrote: »Let me ask a question to the Vengeance players, who say Vengeance is more about skill and less about builds.
IF (and that's a big IF) everyone, as you proclaim, is running the meta in Gray Host (so essentially running the same sets, combined with the same subclass setup), wouldn't that automatically make Gray Host also about skill?
I mean, everyone running the meta would make it rougly the same as Vengeance (same loadout), right?
Everyone is not running the meta. Everyone knows that. When people say that they mean that people in off-meta, niche, or just plain bad builds can go up against someone who they can't win against because they're in a meta set before either player even does anything. Mistakes in builds are much more brutally punished as a result than mistakes in gameplay.
ETA
In the games where builds are less important (or don't have builds), mistakes in gameplay are more important than mistakes in build. The person with the better setup will usually win but if they make an error, the new person can punish them for that mistake and defeat them. In those games, skill is more important than builds.
And that's why I asked the question. You're right, not everyone is running the meta. Our whole guild is not running the meta. Still, we'd rather play Gray Host than watered down Vengeance.
Like I said somewhere earlier, for me there's only 2 things that are a plague on Gray Host. One is critical damage (way too high), the other one is healstacking.
Either preference is fine and fair. Some people enjoy the build having the higher impact because it unlocks a lot of options and variety in gameplay that isn't available with everyone being in cookie cutter states. There's a skill to build making. Others prefer their gameplay be the highest impact because they want a more even playing field. This is why options are good even if one doesn't like GH or Vengeance it is good that we have both.
I'd be totally opposed to having GH permanently removed.
Re: Welcome to the Elder Lazer Beams Online
Thank subclassing for this. They didn't want to nerf the arcanist and so they gave beams to everyone instead.
Sure, there are more variety of builds you CAN make, but nobody is seriously making/using 90% of the skill/ability combos that are out there, and there is even less build variety than before.
Sure, there are more variety of builds you CAN make, but nobody is seriously making/using 90% of the skill/ability combos that are out there, and there is even less build variety than before.
Re: SUPRISE ! People dont like VENGEANCE
DeathandDebauchery wrote: »What a new type of player really needs, is a better community, and a better outlook on their community.
That's just bad game design in a nutshell. That approach is fine for extremely niche content (like Trifectas) but that mindset is terrible for something you can do at level 10. This is peak PvP player privilege and exactly why Vengeance needs to exist.
This seems to be the crux of the issue here. PvP already is pretty niche compared to the rest of the community. Maybe not as small or large as the trials trifecta side of it, no idea really their population, but enough people here have smugly commented on how small greyhost's community is compared to the rest of the eso community.
In which case, you should treat it specifically as the same as high end trial players. I would not go to that community and say I should be trifecta ready at level 10. No idea why this is different for greyhost specifically, especially when there are other campaigns that are more forgiving than ours available to you already.
None of this would have been such an issue if 1. Zos didn't repeatedly shut down the campaigns for Vengeance, and 2. state it was just a test to fix greyhost lag, then 3. Give up on greyhost and say they cant fix it, and were switching focus to Vengeance, and that also, while they would "rather keep both greyhost and vengeance" that making it only vengeance was a possibility.
^This was a massive mismanagement of trust and transparency. That's why our side of the community is tilted, and I'm pretty sure, 99.9% that if any of the other communities had to put up with this sort of thing and periodic tests that take away your content for experimental ones, y'all would definitely be just as salty about the whole thing.
Re: do you ever use cp 150 gear vs cp 160 gear
Never. IMO its a pointless remnant of the game and should just be removed after you hit the CP cap. Even people who have CP don't make lower than CP 160 gear - they just wait until they hit 160 to get permanent gear. If they don't know to do this, this is the advice we give them as veteran players.