It's definitely continuing on the wrong direction.
Was about to try to enjoy the event, but, again, disapointed.

It's definitely good way to spend my holiday with my family, far away from this game.
See ya next year ! Enjoy !
(they already killed the french forum and community, that going to be the same with the foreign players)

I also find it off-putting for someone to come into a thread and be like, "I don't have that issue, so this thread shouldn't exist / you should make other ones."

Haki_7 wrote: »

Artisian0001 wrote: »

Jierdanit wrote: »

Moonspawn wrote: »

SummersetCitizen wrote: »

Many 3-way matches were just as painful as these cherry picked examples.

I thought the sheer number prove they're not being cherry picked. Just out of curiosity, how many of these do you think have been posted so far?

balanced chaosball:

balanced chaosball 2:

balanced crazy king:

balanced crazy king 2:

balanced domination (with Haki):

balanced deathmatch (with Haki):

balanced deathmatch 2:

Its very much cherry picked (very surprising @Haki_7 didnt post the actually balanced matches he was part of, I know ).
I can also cherry pick more matches like that if you want to act like that proves anything.

That's all people on the forums do. The 4v4 and 8v8 game modes are way better than a 3 team system that is just fighting for position to third party, which I did enjoy, but ultimately is less competitive than a straight up fight. The devs just did a bad job with the 2 team system, but it is far superior.

But don't the hundreds of scoreboards that have already been posted prove that the 4 flaws make 2 teams bgs objectively worse?

Relic 1 & 2, impossible to lose. Thankfully the first one ended quickly.

Crazy King 1 & 2, impossible to lose:

DM 1, impossible to win. Green-5 had no choice but to go around targeting newcomers.

DM 2 & 3, impossible to lose:

Destruction of Battlegrounds Chapter 114: Waiting 16 minutes for a lopsided match (Solo 8v8 PC/EU)

https://youtu.be/lnM7gj0bbvw

No, believe it or not, posting cherry picked screenshots doesn't prove anything at all. Basketball players are typically taller than average, but I can post hundreds of videos of shorter players being better than taller players, does this prove anything? Of course not. If that's literally your standard of evidence, good luck my man.

fizzybeef wrote: »

And it‘s caused by a lot of issues wich have been adressed often and people like you come and gaslight the adressing people to feed zos narrative.

The worst about those people is they demand facts because they assume one didn't do his homework, but when one spits facts right in front of them then they ignore or retreat without a word because they ain't interested in the facts anyway.
They are interested in the illusion of being right.
They only demand a proof in the hope one can't deliver the facts.

I don't think it's worth putting in the effort into speculating-- they've most likely been working on the next several, they can't just take a hard turn on what they've already planned out. We'll find out more in just three weeks.

It's nice to imagine everyone on an older PC can just add some more memory (although thanks to AI shills RAM is absurdly expensive right now), but it's not necessarily that simple. It has to be compatible with the rest of your setup so a memory upgrade can easily turn into needing a new motherboard and CPU, and a new PSU to run it, and a new case to fit it in...basically a whole new PC.

My PC is 3 years old and I still think of it as relatively new and I have no intention to upgrade any time soon. I'd be willing to bet there's a lot more PC players on older machines "holding the game back" than console players on the previous generation. For one thing PC gamers don't have the same incentive to upgrade every few years because there's all kinds of things you can do to get newer games to run on older PC hardware but absolutely nothing can make a PS5 game run on PS4.

xR3ACTORx wrote: »

And when crossplay will finally arrive the console servers might be already that empty to the point where crossplay isn't needed anymore.

It's not like ESO is the only game out there. Even if we all loved this game for what it is or was...There are still a ton of new games every year and when people get bored people move on.
When people feel like being ignored then people move on.
People feel like not getting any value in return for their investment. Yea... People move on.
Games bugged into oblivion with no fixes in sight? Yea.. People also move on.

This isn't my first rodeo. In 35 years of gaming I witnessed games and studios rising and falling for the same reasons.

Couldnt agree more.

SilverBride wrote: »

Then we should be making threads about the core issues and addressing them directly.

The declinging population is a symptom and a core issue.
And it‘s caused by a lot of issues wich have been adressed often and people like you come and gaslight the adressing people to feed zos narrative.

The wide mass quits because:


- U35
- U46
- bad writing
- no good new content
- overland difficulty being bad
- subclassing being bad how its introduced, code word inbalance
- whiting wall was dissapointed
- zos lying to us and pushing the destruction path called Vengeance instead of fixing their game
- AI moderation and false bans
- performance issues
- bugs wich exist for years
- pts being ingnored
- bad or intransparent communication
- Zos being slow and not reacting, they were out of touch with their own playerbase for to long now and have caused massive damage to the game.

etc pp i cant remember all out of my mind.
Im sure people have different reasons and a lot of then tried to be hered.

But whenever we have these representing posts, by some brave people who speak for the 99% who dont use the forum and LITERALLY JUST QUIT, you will have some noisy people who come and argue the hell against you, as if you personally attacked them.

And now after all that the population has decreased and this makes it aswell a next spot on the list why people are quitting, because people who threat this game here not as a single player game, feel the difference in what it used to be and rather leave the sinking ship.

Like my whole pvp guild (35 people) has quit, because pvp is empty.

We are all endgame, we have done everything in the game and only pve for pvp at this point.
Pvp is dead, on a friday we had 1 bar each, so we dont play.

And i can tell you, most of us have stopped our eso plus.
And so the cycle goes on and becomes bigger.

After all that im still masochistic enough to come here and waste my time, with the little hope stuff becomes better.

But unless they dont announce crossplay in january, wich i doubt HIGHLY, my server is kinda dead for multiplayer activity and so is the game then for me.
I refuse to start again on a sinking ship.
And this ^ is what the game is right now.

Oof. The character I was considering this for does a lot of questing in first-person. I'm a bit worried about visibility with this style, even though it looks amazing.

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Artisian0001 wrote: »

why you always choose to speak so confidently om something you know nothing about is beyond me

Who is this mythical 4 man group pushing top tier 12 mans off siege? You?

Hey, if someone from Adrestia or whoever wants to admit that their top tier 12 man gets pushed off a ram by 4 guys, I guess I could admit I lost a forum argument.

You really have no clue of what you are talking about its funny. I have ran with top tier ball groups and you understimate the damage coordinated siege and a little coordinated group can do.

Immortal Ball groups are a myth and people like you just feed the fear.