I would've been totally cool having it be a aesthetic choice alone. I think thousand eyes is the coolest one, it's kind of lame if people only pick for a good set. Just have it be your choice of set.

Can someone share if this matters? I'm not interested in the prevailing faction but if the score matters and that team gets more rewards or something I feel like I'd be forced into it.

SilverBride wrote: »

I got the house and it's so big I don't care about opening additional wings. So I will now say goodNIGHT, market.

Yeah, the wings are super disappointing to me too. I’m glad the house is good on its own. It’s begging for more floors to be added to it by players!

CameraBeardThePirate wrote: »

Finedaible wrote: »

I think the problem lies in ZoS always making it incredibly difficult to onboard players into the harder content. There's always been this big divide between difficulty modes with no intuitive way to get paired up. We have group finder now, but I'll be lucky if I ever see a group on there. ZoS always treated the game as if their consumers would play the game 8 hours per day non-stop and the insane content grind reflects that. This is why games that pair players up automatically tend to be popular these days, ain't nobody got the attention span for grouping up and rehearsing a 3 hour play.

Honestly it has a lot to do with overland scaling/difficulty.

At launch, you were forced to get used to difficult content as every new zone you entered and every new dungeon you unlocked was much harder than the last.

After One Tamriel, players are never forced to hit a difficulty spike.

Don't get me wrong, One Tamriel was a net positive for the game, but it made it so that the only difficult content is veteran dungeons and trials, so players are never forced to re-evaluate their builds, learn specific combat mechanics, or get a grasp on how to improve very specific parts of their combat gameplay.

I get a sense that 0 of the people complaining about dying instantly will be doing the harder half of overland difficulty, considering the harder half one-shot my overland dps. People have soloed in Night Market but you have to actually build for it and I’m getting a sense that people think their builds are better than they are. So then yeah, it becomes a problem of “the content is too hard” and not “my build needs upgrades for this”.

Soarora wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

I got the house and it's so big I don't care about opening additional wings. So I will now say goodNIGHT, market.

Yeah, the wings are super disappointing to me too. I’m glad the house is good on its own. It’s begging for more floors to be added to it by players!

CameraBeardThePirate wrote: »

Finedaible wrote: »

I think the problem lies in ZoS always making it incredibly difficult to onboard players into the harder content. There's always been this big divide between difficulty modes with no intuitive way to get paired up. We have group finder now, but I'll be lucky if I ever see a group on there. ZoS always treated the game as if their consumers would play the game 8 hours per day non-stop and the insane content grind reflects that. This is why games that pair players up automatically tend to be popular these days, ain't nobody got the attention span for grouping up and rehearsing a 3 hour play.

Honestly it has a lot to do with overland scaling/difficulty.

At launch, you were forced to get used to difficult content as every new zone you entered and every new dungeon you unlocked was much harder than the last.

After One Tamriel, players are never forced to hit a difficulty spike.

Don't get me wrong, One Tamriel was a net positive for the game, but it made it so that the only difficult content is veteran dungeons and trials, so players are never forced to re-evaluate their builds, learn specific combat mechanics, or get a grasp on how to improve very specific parts of their combat gameplay.

I get a sense that 0 of the people complaining about dying instantly will be doing the harder half of overland difficulty, considering the harder half one-shot my overland dps. People have soloed in Night Market but you have to actually build for it and I’m getting a sense that people think their builds are better than they are. So then yeah, it becomes a problem of “the content is too hard” and not “my build needs upgrades for this”.

I think you're exactly right. I think it also suffers from a lack of identity. Who is the content for. I'm very disappointed about no dungeons this year and this is supposed to scratch that itch, as Tomofhyrule reminded us. It won't. It's too easy for hm players in a group. It's a zone, but very few quests and little story, so it's not for the story or quest crowd either. The rewards are abysmal so people that like to collect will be disappointed. I think that's almost the worst part. The bad rewards. We know Zos can make cool furnishings and style pages and stuff but they just took some fargrave assets, slapped together a house and filled the rewards with overland gear. Not a great intro to seasonal content.

The difficulty is insane. My trial group gets wipe like we just started playing. This is in no way acceptable.

twisttop138 wrote: »

Soarora wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

I got the house and it's so big I don't care about opening additional wings. So I will now say goodNIGHT, market.

Yeah, the wings are super disappointing to me too. I’m glad the house is good on its own. It’s begging for more floors to be added to it by players!

CameraBeardThePirate wrote: »

Finedaible wrote: »

I think the problem lies in ZoS always making it incredibly difficult to onboard players into the harder content. There's always been this big divide between difficulty modes with no intuitive way to get paired up. We have group finder now, but I'll be lucky if I ever see a group on there. ZoS always treated the game as if their consumers would play the game 8 hours per day non-stop and the insane content grind reflects that. This is why games that pair players up automatically tend to be popular these days, ain't nobody got the attention span for grouping up and rehearsing a 3 hour play.

Honestly it has a lot to do with overland scaling/difficulty.

At launch, you were forced to get used to difficult content as every new zone you entered and every new dungeon you unlocked was much harder than the last.

After One Tamriel, players are never forced to hit a difficulty spike.

Don't get me wrong, One Tamriel was a net positive for the game, but it made it so that the only difficult content is veteran dungeons and trials, so players are never forced to re-evaluate their builds, learn specific combat mechanics, or get a grasp on how to improve very specific parts of their combat gameplay.

I get a sense that 0 of the people complaining about dying instantly will be doing the harder half of overland difficulty, considering the harder half one-shot my overland dps. People have soloed in Night Market but you have to actually build for it and I’m getting a sense that people think their builds are better than they are. So then yeah, it becomes a problem of “the content is too hard” and not “my build needs upgrades for this”.

I think you're exactly right. I think it also suffers from a lack of identity. Who is the content for. I'm very disappointed about no dungeons this year and this is supposed to scratch that itch, as Tomofhyrule reminded us. It won't. It's too easy for hm players in a group. It's a zone, but very few quests and little story, so it's not for the story or quest crowd either. The rewards are abysmal so people that like to collect will be disappointed. I think that's almost the worst part. The bad rewards. We know Zos can make cool furnishings and style pages and stuff but they just took some fargrave assets, slapped together a house and filled the rewards with overland gear. Not a great intro to seasonal content.

Yeah the overland set rewards feel downright insulting. I already have all this crud, most players who've been around and will be worth their weight in salt in this event will have them all. So it just feels pointless.

The set rewards would be good for casual players who don't have them, but this is much too difficult for casual players, so....

Thats the most confusing event i've ever seen, nothing is explained (or barely), we're all layered in shard so theres actually not that many player in each zone, faction war is non-existent since thousand eyes decided to exploit favor generation.
Well....

I group a lot to do dungeons, but I don't do trials or vet content. I'd say I'm primarily a solo player.

As far as the market goes, I completed the quest to do the house and then left. From reading about it, including the PTS feedback, it's just not the type of content I enjoy, so I have it on ignore, just like PvP and trials. Two of my guilds will be running events, but I have no interest. I'd much rather dev time go into new zones and stories.

I think the best thing the devs could do is take the current difficulty or maybe even bump it up a little, call it Veteran, and then make a new, toned down version and make that Normal.

Thank you for the new content.

However, like others have said, the content is much too difficult. The zone is very interesting, and there are plenty of activites out and about, but discovery and exploration are discouraged by mobs that nearly one-shot you.