GMdoghunter wrote: »

Soarora wrote: »

SerafinaWaterstar wrote: »

CameraBeardThePirate wrote: »

SerafinaWaterstar wrote: »

LadyGP wrote: »

In before the "when will Night Market get it's own vengence" post.

Hard content is good. Honestly, the death of modern gaming can be traced to a lot of things but one of those things being making content easier so everyone can have all the things.

Hard content can be good if players get to chose if they want to do it or not.

Hard content that apparently forces groups on a playerbase that is known for liking solo play, with rubbish rewards, and has a complicated boss progression & inability to respawn at point of death, is not good.

If the rewards are rubbish then just don't do it? No one is forcing you to do it, and if by your own admission the rewards are bad, then why do you care?

I'm glad there's an event with difficult content. I'm not even a PvE player; I primarily play PvP, but I'm really looking forward to jumping into the Night Market with a bunch of friends.

Why do I care? Because its the only content dropping for this part of the year & it would be a shame for it to fail because it has been ill- conceived or implemented. Posts saying players are trying it once & then giving it up is not good for the health of the game.

(Personally I run vet trials & pvp for fun so ‘hard’ content doesn’t bother me much, & I’ll be running this with guild groups. But not everyone is like me so I try and see it from their perspective, and not my own selfish viewpoint.)

It’s not the only content dropping for the year. It’s the only new zone but new areas are being added to previous zones.

But Night Market is replacing content… dungeons. The endgame dungeon community gets nothing but Night Market this year. And that’s specifically why I’m defensive about Night Market.

The eso community in general gets NOTHING this year,Not only and just the Dungeon and trial communities.
All we got from ZOS this year was a senseless grind in the form of Tomes and to add to it The Night Market,which is solely focused on Group content.
They implemented content that No One asked for,it's what they wanted.
For the next year we have absolutely Nothing,only and more poissibly gettting more of a senseless grind that eso has become.
Been playing this since Beta and honestly the direction the game is going isn't good.
Hopefully it lasts,but people will eventually get sick and tired of it and just not bother anymore.
We have corporate GREED at it's finest to thank for that though.

Yeah this is something I don't understand, even as a PvE player who actually does do lots of dungeons and the occasional trial... Nobody got anything this year? It's not just the group PvEers missing out.

Yeah we'll get some lame-o quests later, whoop lol.

Went in, mobs are overtuned, not many people around. Got one shotted and I am geared in good gold sets, not even base WBs hit me that hard soloing them. Trying to group and get quests done when people are at different stages is ridiculous. I avoid group content because I have to go afk quite often and unexpectedly due to RL.

This content looks like a total loss to me, zero interest in it. Base house is nice but not worth pursuing the wings due to the nature of the content. Hard pass.

I'm playing with my main character and I claimed this Tome Points reward: "Scribing Supplies". It is a container, which contains some curated scripts and some luminous ink.
Since my main character already knows all the scripts, I thought about giving it to one of my alts... but NO. The container, even though it's account-bound, can't be banked, so it's impossible to give it to another character.
When you open the container, three more containers appear (one for each type of script). I was hoping these could be banked. BUT NO, not even these!!!
So I had to waste this reward by opening it with the character I already had everything on.
I don't think it's supposed to work this way!

@ZOS_Kevin

I have just returned to eso after a long hiatus and this has interested me. I enjoy the combat, when in a group. The questing part is unbearable to do solo or even duo with my friend. We tried together, we tried in groups. The groups wouldn’t go where we wanted them to and for good reason! Everyone is doing different quests!! I went to another part of the night market and it was empty as hell. I’m seeing like almost a million score but no people?!

A normal / vet mode would be perfect, and it would solve a lot of the problems here. I’m not saying make the enemies boringly easy, but getting almost one shot constantly is getting boring. Fast.

For the quests only thing I’ve found to be useful is to use invis pots and nightblade cloak to stealth around. And that is not fun zos.

I wanted to enjoy this so badly! I’m hoping zos will take our criticisms in and maybe nerf the damage the adds and bosses do. Personally I’m fine with their health, but if people want that nerfed too, that’s fine with me as well.

I really think you all should’ve advertised it as group content instead of not mentioning that at all in advertising and treading the line in streams. I’m seeing a lot of people going in, thinking they can solo, and getting mad about getting curb stomped. You have pop-ups for dungeons and trials saying “you can try to solo but this is for a group”, my opinion is that you should have a similar pop-up for the 3 districts so people can set their expectations.

I’m running with a full group later today and tomorrow, I’ll return with feedback.

Dunno, I've been having fun.

Just need to coordinate in group finder or zone chat, or roam around to find the current ballgroup and tag alongside them.

Keep in mind that even if you join a group in group finder, it's possible that there may not be enough room in the party leads instance if they made it while inside the night market, necessitating everyone to exit and then re-enter the night market. That's the only real annoyance I've got.

Might be beneficial to have the crossed swords/active combat on bosses to give solo's an indicator of where the current instance group is fighting.

Soarora wrote: »

SerafinaWaterstar wrote: »

CameraBeardThePirate wrote: »

SerafinaWaterstar wrote: »

LadyGP wrote: »

In before the "when will Night Market get it's own vengence" post.

Hard content is good. Honestly, the death of modern gaming can be traced to a lot of things but one of those things being making content easier so everyone can have all the things.

Hard content can be good if players get to chose if they want to do it or not.

Hard content that apparently forces groups on a playerbase that is known for liking solo play, with rubbish rewards, and has a complicated boss progression & inability to respawn at point of death, is not good.

If the rewards are rubbish then just don't do it? No one is forcing you to do it, and if by your own admission the rewards are bad, then why do you care?

I'm glad there's an event with difficult content. I'm not even a PvE player; I primarily play PvP, but I'm really looking forward to jumping into the Night Market with a bunch of friends.

Why do I care? Because its the only content dropping for this part of the year & it would be a shame for it to fail because it has been ill- conceived or implemented. Posts saying players are trying it once & then giving it up is not good for the health of the game.

(Personally I run vet trials & pvp for fun so ‘hard’ content doesn’t bother me much, & I’ll be running this with guild groups. But not everyone is like me so I try and see it from their perspective, and not my own selfish viewpoint.)

It’s not the only content dropping for the year. It’s the only new zone but new areas are being added to previous zones.

But Night Market is replacing content… dungeons. The endgame dungeon community gets nothing but Night Market this year. And that’s specifically why I’m defensive about Night Market.

Then it should have a vet and a normal mode, that would have solved 90% of it's issues.

robwolf666 wrote: »

Hmm... After seeing these posts about the difficulty, I'm actually now curious how the difficulty compares to, say, a normal group dungeon (base game, not DLC) or IA cycle-wise.

Much, much harder than normal dungeons, much harder than DLC dungeons too.

FurryCandyHearts wrote: »

sounds like night market is doa.

Everybody I know in game is lovin it! I know I'm having a blast.

This Night Market event is awesome. GJ ZOS. We needed something just like this. Please with a cherry on top don't nerf it.