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twisttop138 wrote: »spartaxoxo wrote: »Renato90085 wrote: »is this self deprecation?
It's "misery loves company."
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The suggestion is coming from folks who are very vocal of their hatred of vengeance and their anger that vengeance removed GH during the testing phases. So, this is a well then PvE should have to have it too! post. Meant to make people share in the misery of PvP, likely in the hopes it will drum up new anti vengeance support by making PvE players put themselves in their shoes.
The issue with the argument is that it completely ignores that PvE already has a normal trial. So, people who just want to learn the mechs of a trial without having to worry about a build may already do so.
It also completely ignores that PvP didn't have an equivalent experience where having vet gear was not necessary. Ravenwatch and Icereach were dominated by builds too. And the only time that at least proc sets weren't part of that equation, established PvPers pushed back until that change was reverted. Which was ultimately a good thing because that change did not change the importance of builds, it just made it even more confusing on what even worked.
Players engaging in normal trials do not need to do any research to join and successfully clear ncr. PvP, unlike PvE, puts players in direct competition with each other. So it matters what all players are wearing unlike PvE normal trials. So this suggestion is a false equivalence.
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FYI, false equivalence is simply the name of concept. It's not the same as lying. Using an equivalent experience to draw a comparison is a valid rhetorical strategy but it can run into trouble if the comparison being made is only superficially similar.
Dude, I mean can you blame them? No one in this thread actually thinks something like this will happen. Why try to argue? But their anger is justified.
cyclonus11 wrote: »SilverBride wrote: »AI is everywhere and it's not going away. Learning to accept it and use it wisely is the best thing that we can do.
Nonsense. If nobody uses it, it will absolutely go away.