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Re: Greyhost and Vengeance
MorallyBipolar wrote: »JustLovely wrote: »The pop levels on Vengeance feel exactly the same as on GH while both are running. During NA prime time there will be 1 big zerg fight on the front and 1 smaller fight somewhere else, that's about it. The difference is that Vengeance has room to grow because it's accessible to new players, while GH and its gatekept meta will only continue declining.Turtle_Bot wrote: »Assuming the pop caps (numbers given by both ZOS and independent player addons) are correct, then there's roughly similar numbers of players in vengeance that there is in GH (at least on PC EU).
Everyone should have to climb the same hill to PvP. Advocating for the removal of the game mode many of us log in to play because you want a friend or spouse to get into PvP without putting in the same effort the rest of us have is a bad look.
...and yes, advocating for making vengeance permanent is the same as advocating for the removal of Grey Host. ZOS will never run both modes same time.
ZOS ran both Vengeance and Grey Host at the same time the moment you were writing that comment and both of them were populated.
Vengeance was populated enaugh to find big fights even in offhours. More than 1 or 2 bars weren’t needed other than for comparison to GreyHost bars because for some reason Vengeance must have 900 players to not be called dead campaign when ZOS keeps u50 and Ravenwatch despite having 0 players.
GreyHost was full despite outside Vengeance all other campaigns being empty so it lost few players and quality to Vengeance.
Test has shown that both campaigns can run at the same time without hurting GreyHost.
You want Vengeance deleted just to prevent supporters to play there and make up that Vengeance removes GreyHost to get reason and blame the other side of taking away your GreyHost instead.
The side by side "test" showed that if people have an option they won't play vengeance.
Maybe a few more people chose GreyHost than Vengeance but in Vengeance there were fights with 60 players on a faction that still didn’t reach 1 bar.
There was a fight for Sejanus last Saturday where Siege reached cap of 20 with half the players upstairs being unable to setup theirs and 10 players on each side of frontflag preventing anyone from entering threw the open maingate. After 20 minutes AD managed to enter threw sidewall and take keep but EP was able to hold Roof for another 10 minutes and almost took back outpost before they got overrun because they couldn’t replace dead players.
There were times when factions reached 2 bars in Vengeance while GreyHost was up.
In pop locket GreyHost you don’t see more than 60 players at a keep despite cap being said to be 120 but players estimated it to be 60 or 80. And the other 3 campaigns we got back instead of Vengeance are completely dead with Vengeance having multiple times their combined population.
We can have Vengeance active without hurting GreyHost.
The side by side "test" showed that if people have an option they won't play vengeance.
Colossus Needs Longer Cooldown in Cyrodiil
Love PVP but these groups of Colossus bombers are too easy to build. The ultimate needs a longer cooldown. Charm shouldn’t be allowed in PVP. DarkCon and Agony should not be allowed in PVP. If this continues, we need better counter skill against it. I can’t break free from Charm. I jump on the ledge and get pulled back up? WTH. Charm, DarkCon and Agony should only be PVE. Vengeance was great not getting bombed in every fight or just repairing gates and walls.
Re: Community Update – Vengeance Testing & Cyrodiil
The side by side test showed that vengeance is not going to be viable. Not enough people will play it, even if it's the only option.
That would depend on the platform it seems, as PC EU got enough players for both campaigns.
Re: Cyrodiil & Imperial City – Community Q&A
thejadefalcon wrote: »The stuck-in-combat bug is, in a nutshell, an extremely complicated issue. Over the years, we’ve tried various potential fixes, only to have the issue persist. The number of factors that contribute to the “in combat” state are part of the complexity. We must check things like ongoing kill credit, monster hate lists, and more.
Oh good, it starts with a complete non-answer, this Q&A should be worth the time. /s
I've literally sat doing nothing before, safe inside an empty keep, and been stuck in combat for 10 minutes. What kills could I be getting? What monsters could be aggroed on me? Yes. If you are in combat, you are in combat. That's how the game works. We already knew that, that's why there was clearly a bug, which has been talked about for years on end now.
Yeah, this was one of the big things I thought Vengeance was gonna address: Slowly dripfeed features back into the game until bugs start reappearing.
The Vengeance Campaigns do not have the same Combat Bug as Live Grayhost, I can fight some huge zerg inside a keep, back off six feet, wait seven seconds, and I'm out of combat free to change my skills and quickwheel. I had honestly thought Vengeance would've followed up on this by figuring out what was removed that generates the bug.
Re: Honestly - Is Vengeance Viable?
MorallyBipolar wrote: »spartaxoxo wrote: »This isn't it's final form so it's hard to say. No new stuff is being added but they're going to be looking at its damage/healing balance.
If they can't fix Grey Host they can't develop a new system that will work properly either.
Yep, pretty obvious if you think about it for even a second or two.
ZOS probably suffers from what's called brain drain, but that's speculation from me.
It's never a good sign when a games creator and leading dev quits or gets fired. (still not sure if he quit or got fired, but he's not with ZOS anymore either way)
Re: What should ZoS change?
My top priority would be stable servers. Modern servers that can handle the load. Lags, skill delays, skills that don't fire at all, and things like that really spoil the fun of the game.
It happens to me often enough that I'm simply slowed down by delays.
I'm sure every tank knows how frustrating it is when block or taunt don't respond properly. When trifecta runs are ruined because of it.
The second most important thing would be to fix bugs, of course. There are so many that I don't even want to list them...
They did it once and it proved to be a huge success. They could do it again if they wanted to.
reazea
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Re: What has caused you to quit the game or barely play any more? What would bring you back?
This is from an xbox NA player.
1. The game going in a direction i didnt like. Tbh i loved ESO for its raiding and later on its PVP. However the game feels more like online skyrim with friends compared to an MMO.
2. The lack of action by the devs towards improvements overall in the game. Even after the "year of improvements" it yielded very little improvements.
3. The fact that zos as a whole just didnt listen to feedback for the longest time when they were given piles and piles of data supporting it, they just turned a blind eye to it. Why even have a PTS if you just ignore the playerbase?
4. Update 35. This was the beginning of the end for me. It decimated the raiding community on all platforms. Like point 3, zos did not care at the time. Even before i quit around a year ago, raiding on xbox NA was dead.
Literally only came back to the forums after seeing eightpuppies latest yt about his opinions on the game. So thought id check out the forums. Seems like nothing has changed since ive been gone.
1. The game going in a direction i didnt like. Tbh i loved ESO for its raiding and later on its PVP. However the game feels more like online skyrim with friends compared to an MMO.
2. The lack of action by the devs towards improvements overall in the game. Even after the "year of improvements" it yielded very little improvements.
3. The fact that zos as a whole just didnt listen to feedback for the longest time when they were given piles and piles of data supporting it, they just turned a blind eye to it. Why even have a PTS if you just ignore the playerbase?
4. Update 35. This was the beginning of the end for me. It decimated the raiding community on all platforms. Like point 3, zos did not care at the time. Even before i quit around a year ago, raiding on xbox NA was dead.
Literally only came back to the forums after seeing eightpuppies latest yt about his opinions on the game. So thought id check out the forums. Seems like nothing has changed since ive been gone.
gronoxvx
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Re: Should subclassing must been removed?
BananaBender wrote: »freespirit wrote: »I really cannot understand why so many people have got their knickers in a twist over this!!
It’s quite easy to understand.
You have these mid-tier players all trying to push content they are not ready for, being forced into builds they do not want to play because they have neither the experience, knowledge, or reputation to play something deemed “off-meta.”
They follow cookie-cutter builds from their favorite content creators, and now those creators are complaining because build videos are their job, and mid-tier strugglers are not interested in 2nd best, so they get not even a quarter of the add revenue that they would normally. Negative affirmation takes hold, and then you have those same mid players stumbling onto a forum to complain about how unhappy they are, oblivious to the incoming Class Reworks designed to help them.
“Source: dude, trust me.”
People dislike subclassing for a lot of different reasons. Trying to paint everyone who disagrees with you as the same kind of player, based on guesses and no real proof, doesn’t really help your point. It just comes off as dismissive.
Yeah, sorry. You guys don’t speak for us.
They do speak for the loads of people who quitted since subclassing was released thought.
I appreciate how youre pushing the pro subclassing agenda with passion, for real.
But in the long run the current path ZOS is chosing to go, is harming the game, as we can tell by the dwinding of the playerbase and the unhappyness of the community since months - years. Specially the last year made everything only worse.
I can just tell you, ZOS wont be paying for infrastructure and servers to keep this game alive for 100 solo players, when everyone else quitted.
And atm thats the trend, people going on masses.