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Re: Night Market - Week One Notes
spartaxoxo wrote: »It's amazing to me how a singular update not catered to solo players during the quarter that has literally never catered to solo players has suddenly become ZOS abandoning solo players. And it's not any one person, it's a sentiment being expressed many places. I have no idea where this is coming from but quarter 1 has literally not been solo content for like 10 years.
It really shows the power of ideas when they spread through groups.
Anyway for anyone worried about this, remember much of the rest of the year will be solo friendly content. And that quarter 1 has always been dungeons. I hope the sage's vault is as fun as it sounds on paper.
Could you be overly focused on this one event?
Could you?
There are thousands of hours of solo quests in this game and most events are meant for soloing. I think the rest of this year which are questlines and solo-dungeons are for solo players. Once in a while group and PvP players are thrown an event and the PvP events get complaints too.
I could be, but I am not.
Do you realize that there is very little content that a grouped player cannot access?
That PvP is unbalanced because of enhanced group dungeon rewards?
You have access to groups, you just don't want to. So don't. But that is your choice and MMOs can't design only content for solo players if they want to maintain interest. ESO has never ONLY had content for solo players and that's how it should be.
Also, just as there is casual and vet group content, there is also casual and vet solo content. Solo actually doesn't mean "requires a low power level," in this game. IA, VVH, and VMA are all solo content also.
ETA
When I say casual I don't mean interest, game time, or passion level in this context. A casual player might be quite invested into the game. It's just I'm trying to describe different levels of play that's respectful towards all parties in terms of power as the gap in this game in terms of ceiling and floor is extremely high and it impacts things quite a lot.
Re: Night Market - Week One Notes
There are thousands of hours of solo quests in this game...
Yes, there's a lot of story content. The problem is that you aren't rewarded for repeating it. Dungeons, trials, and arenas have the sticker book. Daily dungeons have transmutes, and if you do the undaunted quests, you get keys.
The game offers absolutely no incentive to repeat the zone story content (main and side quests). Once a player has completed it, unless they want to repeat it on an alt (and since AwA, you don't even get achievements for doing so), there's no reason to do it again.
I don't have anything against the Night Market, and I'm not upset about it, so I don't care that a zone was added for groups (though I do object to "encourage grouping" - come on, it's 2026. Get over it, already!). But this notion that, hey, you solo players have a ton to do. Look at all the quests!!! Where's the incentive to do them once you've done them once? If there were no rewards for repeating group content except 20g and a piece of overland gear, only the diehards would ever repeat the content. But solo players are told they should be happy that they can repeat the same content for virtually zero reward.
There's only a ton of stuff for NEW solo players to do. A lot of solo players who have been here for a while don't have much to do.
Having said that, perhaps solo content coming later this year will have a repeatable REWARDABLE element to it. The story content will not. Maybe some other stuff will.
My message to ZOS: The bulk of the solo content in this game is questing, so figure out how to entice people to repeat it. Unfortunately you threw out a system that was an incentive (achievements), and you didn't replace it with anything.
And to posters who trot out the tired old, "But look at all the solo quests!!!!!" If you wouldn't repeat content for zero rewards, don't expect solo players to do so.
Now that the sticker book is curated it likely takes far less time to complete your stickbook for the few sets people care about than there is solo content. Collecting every set that will never be used for no reason other than collector's sakes I am sure appeals to some but not others. There are also solo overland sets to collect too, so there is that I suppose.
Most dungeons have no meaningful reason to return either unless some set is meta at the moment.
As far as there being a ton of stuff only for new players, that usually applies to most people in all MMOs regardless of interests. At some point you have all the gear and accumulated a stockpile or whatever stuff you need and there isn't much to look forward to once you play enough.
Re: Is copying over live characters necessary for the test process?
So you can compair your actual toon live to the upcoming content, DPS/skills/styles. Also you could make a cp3600 toon, with BIS gear and test your constant claims that these sets ruin you experiance as they give a massive DPS increase!
Re: Is copying over live characters necessary for the test process?
spend 3 hour make build or use 1sec log in your character and builds..
Re: PLEASE do something about the IA Dragons
SilverBride wrote: »BagOfBadgers wrote: »Never had a problem with them. It's getting all to common for people to ask that content that's reasonably difficult and needs skill, gets made easier because of a them issue (I'm considered disabled as I have the use of between 1 and 1 and half hands, depends on the day + other things that keep my life “interesting”).
Sorry if this comes off Elites, but I enjoy a challenge and I don't what to say it, but "if I can do do it so can you".
I find it admirable that you are able to defeat these Dragons and that you enjoy the fights. But to clear things up, I am not asking that they change the mechanics of the fights in any way. I just want a bigger space to fight them in.
Asking for a bigger space to fight actually is asking for them to change the mechanics. The dragons have a very limited arsenal of skills, none of which do any appreciable amount of damage or can't be blocked/avoided. The tail or wingslap is pretty much the only reliable weapon in its arsenal. Expanding the platform would effectively turn the knockback into little more than a nuissance. You're essentially asking to nullify the mechanic.
DenverRalphy
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Re: Do you keep your Gold in the Bank?
I keep the vast majority of my gold on my main crafter/original character as, other than my trial tank, she's the character I play the most. And generally if I'm gonna spend money, it's on motifs or furnishing plans she doesn't know. Since I can't tell that if I am on other toons, I never buy those on other toons.
I do keep a small amount of gold on each toon for "traveling money" when not near a wayshrine, but otherwise it all stays on my crafter.
I do keep a small amount of gold on each toon for "traveling money" when not near a wayshrine, but otherwise it all stays on my crafter.
Re: Night Market - Week One Notes
There are thousands of hours of solo quests in this game...
Yes, there's a lot of story content. The problem is that you aren't rewarded for repeating it. Dungeons, trials, and arenas have the sticker book. Daily dungeons have transmutes, and if you do the undaunted quests, you get keys.
The game offers absolutely no incentive to repeat the zone story content (main and side quests). Once a player has completed it, unless they want to repeat it on an alt (and since AwA, you don't even get achievements for doing so), there's no reason to do it again.
I don't have anything against the Night Market, and I'm not upset about it, so I don't care that a zone was added for groups (though I do object to "encourage grouping" - come on, it's 2026. Get over it, already!). But this notion that, hey, you solo players have a ton to do. Look at all the quests!!! Where's the incentive to do them once you've done them once? If there were no rewards for repeating group content except 20g and a piece of overland gear, only the diehards would ever repeat the content. But solo players are told they should be happy that they can repeat the same content for virtually zero reward.
There's only a ton of stuff for NEW solo players to do. A lot of solo players who have been here for a while don't have much to do.
Having said that, perhaps solo content coming later this year will have a repeatable REWARDABLE element to it. The story content will not. Maybe some other stuff will.
My message to ZOS: The bulk of the solo content in this game is questing, so figure out how to entice people to repeat it. Unfortunately you threw out a system that was an incentive (achievements), and you didn't replace it with anything.
And to posters who trot out the tired old, "But look at all the solo quests!!!!!" If you wouldn't repeat content for zero rewards, don't expect solo players to do so.
AzuraFan
7
Re: Night Market - Week One Notes
I like the NM even though I'm primarily a solo player. I only wish there were less mobs so you could run around freely and do the quests and general exploration of the area. Now you can barely move two steps before running into enemies. If you don't have stealth you are helpless.
Regarding the Night Market Den/House, I wonder what will happen with bank vault access after the event runs out. Will we still retain access? What about next season when we might choose a new faction? If the vault requires you to have 5000 favor with your current faction, would it count as 0 again and lock you out?
Regarding the Night Market Den/House, I wonder what will happen with bank vault access after the event runs out. Will we still retain access? What about next season when we might choose a new faction? If the vault requires you to have 5000 favor with your current faction, would it count as 0 again and lock you out?
Re: Night Market - Week One Notes
spartaxoxo wrote: »It's amazing to me how a singular update not catered to solo players during the quarter that has literally never catered to solo players has suddenly become ZOS abandoning solo players. And it's not any one person, it's a sentiment being expressed many places. I have no idea where this is coming from but quarter 1 has literally not been solo content for like 10 years.
It really shows the power of ideas when they spread through groups.
Anyway for anyone worried about this, remember much of the rest of the year will be solo friendly content. And that quarter 1 has always been dungeons. I hope the sage's vault is as fun as it sounds on paper.
Could you be overly focused on this one event?
Could you?
There are thousands of hours of solo quests in this game and most events are meant for soloing. I think the rest of this year which are questlines and solo-dungeons are for solo players. Once in a while group and PvP players are thrown an event and the PvP events get complaints too.
I could be, but I am not.
Do you realize that there is very little content that a grouped player cannot access?
That PvP is unbalanced because of enhanced group dungeon rewards?
You have access to groups, you just don't want to. So don't. But that is your choice and MMOs can't design only content for solo players if they want to maintain interest. ESO has never ONLY had content for solo players and that's how it should be.
Re: Official Night Market Feedback Thread
IMPORTANT PLEASE: I'd like to know from devs - are we going to keep the faction Favors we gained first time when the second time will come around?
What I mean is: I need 10K Glittering Goad Favors to purchase some faction items. If I reach it during first time, will I be able to purchase them again when it comes second time, even if I'll be pledged to someone else?
My 10K Favors gained for Glittering Goad, will they ever "go away from my account"?
I understand that second time the factions will start from 0 on servers, but shouldn't our accounts work differently individually, keeping track of how much we earned in each faction "lifetime", and therefore keeping things unlocked and forever purchasable, not depending by other factors?
What I mean is: I need 10K Glittering Goad Favors to purchase some faction items. If I reach it during first time, will I be able to purchase them again when it comes second time, even if I'll be pledged to someone else?
My 10K Favors gained for Glittering Goad, will they ever "go away from my account"?
I understand that second time the factions will start from 0 on servers, but shouldn't our accounts work differently individually, keeping track of how much we earned in each faction "lifetime", and therefore keeping things unlocked and forever purchasable, not depending by other factors?
