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Re: The Night Market - Oddities/Puzzle Guide Solo - Text & Video
Am I missing something? I've tried the guiding lights strategy 4 times now, and it only worked once. The time it worked, I don't know why; I did the same approach every time.
The same issue happens every time it failed: despite the top two colors closest to the brazier being ''set'' as in aimed at the middle brazier, changing the remaining two colors did not work. The lower colors of the first two were not aimed correctly, despite the top two being so.
an example of what it looks like:
Here, I first aimed red to the brazier. Then I aimed yellow to the brazier. Then I aimed the rightmost green to the topmost red. Then I aimed the leftmost blue to the topmost yellow.
EDIT: I ended up completing all of them, with probably a 30-40% success rate with this strategy. I just kept doing it until it worked. I'm still not sure what I was doing wrong on failed attempts.
The same issue happens every time it failed: despite the top two colors closest to the brazier being ''set'' as in aimed at the middle brazier, changing the remaining two colors did not work. The lower colors of the first two were not aimed correctly, despite the top two being so.
an example of what it looks like:
Here, I first aimed red to the brazier. Then I aimed yellow to the brazier. Then I aimed the rightmost green to the topmost red. Then I aimed the leftmost blue to the topmost yellow.
EDIT: I ended up completing all of them, with probably a 30-40% success rate with this strategy. I just kept doing it until it worked. I'm still not sure what I was doing wrong on failed attempts.
Re: Guild Spamming Issue
Closes thread but doesn't address the fact that the guild clearly doesn't care about the "Warnings". Classic
Re: Zos, we need an explanation
YandereGirlfriend wrote: »Alchimiste1 wrote: »As always there is a giant disconnect between pve and pvp, in pve nightblade was over performing and DK was arguable the second worst class only ahead of templar
Was it even overperforming in pve ? what was pure nb parsing compared to other class? I know I saw 180k+ on dk/ww and sorc
NB + WW was hitting 200k+.
Not sure what pureBlade was doing by itself.
Then nerf werewolf instead... Or disable class masteries for werewolf and compensate it in some way, what the hell
It’s mostly Signet and class masteries.
Disable signet, give it the same pick 2 out of 5 via ‘werewolf masteries’ with small numerical values or things like: ‘Hircine’s howl’ provides 50% of its healing to other werewolves within 8m’.
Ez fix, everyone wins.
Wuuffyy
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Re: Concerns About ESO’s Future Direction and Solo Player Experience
CameraBeardThePirate wrote: »
Pot meet kettle.
All your "arguments" have been that the new content is excluding solo players, which is being disingenuous at best.
In reality, this content isn't "excluding" anyone. There are no requirements, no hard Champ Point limits, no required group size.
You are excluding yourself by not wanting to engage with the content.
This is not "hard-core only" content. If it was, I wouldn't be having a blast playing with my "noob" cousin that hasn't played ESO since Summerset.
You’re 100% wrong. I play the game every day, and every time I join… trials\dungeons. xD
Because the objectives there are the same for everyone: finish, get loot.
I refuse to “feed” your [snip] market just to make things easier for "you" by grouping with "you".
You like it? You like HardCore? That’s your problem, solve it yourself.
I’m perfectly happy not feeling like I’m being used. Very happy, actually.
Athory
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Re: Wouldnt it be great if there was a heavy armor passive for taunt
Idk why people are against AOE taunting. There are fights where an AOE taunt would be disadvantageous, and sweaty players would rather slot a debuff or something helpful in the 12 skill slots. AOE taunts would make tedious trash and dungeon runs more enjoyable.
ZOS has added oakensoul and velothi and arcanist beam, and soon more channels, to make DPS more accessible and fun. Why not make the tank role more accessible? Wouldn't it be fun to aggro 50+ mobs and see how long you can last?
The thread/poll is not about AoE taunts. It's about granting taunt to a passive skill. The overwhelming negative reaction isn't against aoe taunting, but moreso against it being passive.
Re: Official Night Market Feedback Thread
tomofhyrule wrote: »Martiandawn wrote: »It's not misinformation. I've been observing the ups and downs in the player base for over a decade now. The players who complain the most about changes to content and game mechanics, and who tend to take "breaks" from the game when they feel their needs are not being met, are the ones who focus on chasing the meta. The players who seek a story-driven RPG experience tend to stick around.
Corollary: the "I'm only here because of The Elder Scrolls series and its stories!" will (eventually) get a game to release that will directly compete with ESO. Or are we seriously expecting all of those fans to look at TES6 and say "yeah, I'll stick with ESO."
Meme on it if you want, but that is the one playerbase that we can absolutely guarantee will drop ESO like a hot potato because of a specific new release.
The other playerbases - ESO can win back. If ESO gives PvPers a reason to play, they may look back at ESO. If ESO gives group players a reason to play, they may look back at ESO. But the people who want an in-depth solo Elder Scrolls experience with no other people around...? ESO can't deliver that to the extent that TES6 can.
But then what happens a few months after TES VI is released, and ESO continues to get new content? You would've thought people would still be playing TES IV: Oblivion Remastered, but it doesn't have the cultural impact that TES V: Skyrim or even the original TES IV: Oblivion has.
The Elder Scrolls Online will always draw the "singleplayer TES" crowd back in. You don't need group content or PvP to do that. TESO is set in the 2nd Era, has so many more quests and stories than any other TES game, and it is continually adding more.
All that TES VI has going for it is *possibly* having modding support, but even then, the lack of community engagement we saw from Oblivion Remastered's modding scene doesn't bode well for TES VI.
Re: Why is everyone so adverse to grouping for NM?
OccultNerd wrote: »I've seen people asking for a solo or easier version of NM, why? Especially after the majority of players wanted harder content!
Because half the time we can't find a group and those districts can not be solo'd as they are. So we end up having to just forget it. I've seen even vet geared players get swarmed and melted when trying to solo, what chance does a casual player have?
Re: Why is everyone so adverse to grouping for NM?
OccultNerd wrote: »So....I generally play solo, I group up for trials/end etc but that's it. I play solo because I don't need a group for normal overland content,wbs, public dungeons etc.. I'm not an elitist, my DPS isn't amazing but I get on fine for the content I play.
Along comes Night Market...you need to group/follow a group/ sneak etc.. no problem, it was advertised as group content.
What I don't understand is why so many players refuse to group up and then come to the forums or FB groups and moan because they expected to do solo NM and they can't, so that's it they are quitting....what is they actual issue? Why won't these players join a team?
I've seen people asking for a solo or easier version of NM, why? Especially after the majority of players wanted harder content!
It's not so much being adverse to grouping... it's the fact it's like herding cats and watching everyone just wanders off in their own direction with their own idea as to how this is going to work out. Spoiler alert... not great.
Re: Official Night Market Feedback Thread
We are making progress.... 
I just wonder how much longer it will take for obvious suggestions and advice that has been given not only from myself but from other numerous sources of players that are truly invested in the best interest of ESO's development before we "get it right".
In the sense of combat as I have stated months and years ago.... Simply adding more HP to monsters to make them "more difficult" is not a proper way to develop and create content. The short answer here and you are being told again ZOS is that combat should be balanced in a manner where the player does not feel like they are "God mode" the entire time and not challenged what so ever and the same is the opposite of where players feel like they should "avoid" combat because they know they're going to get wrecked in .5 seconds of entering combat. Combat should feel like I need to actually pay attention to what is going on in front of me, use abilities at my disposal to do the "dance" of combat in dealing damage and staying alive in a dynamic form and not a static form of a "rotation". If your team can thread the needle I am talking about where combat is a balanced enjoyable form of "fun" in the sense that I am not a mindless zombie running around the world mashing a series of buttons simply because "its time to hit that button" but also whenever I choose to engage ANY enemy in the game world I am greeted with a feeling that the enemy absolutely has the potential to take my player down if I dont dedicate some level of focus in what I am doing. The next target in this design is the amount of "time" involved for each interaction of combat. So just exactly what is the "perfect" amount of time in combat? Well that depends. If I am just roaming around stonefalls fighting random beetles that combat time probably needs to be pretty short, but because they're beetles they're not dangerous right? Wrong. You could absolutely make that combat interaction just as fun and threatening with a short amount of time required for that combat. Versus going into a fight of me versus 8 monsters at once and I spend 3 minutes fighting them only to realize there is another 8 monsters 10 feet away thats going to be another 3 minutes of fighting. Your problem with both of these scenarios currently is the beetles I smack once and off to the next beetle and its honestly pretty pointless to interact with it and not fun and I just run around that beetle and carry on to whatever I am doing. Where as your 8 monsters that I have to dedicate 3 min of fighting to and eventually can kill them off seems to long winded of a fight and I am about to spend the next 30 min of my life trying to cover a small section of the map only for them to respawn behind me and that also becomes of thing that I am going to figure out a way to avoid that combat altogether (sneaking around / vampire stage 4) and get to my target. Both scenarios are not "fun". How do we fix this? Scaling. Give the monsters enough health by default so that if 1 player decides to interact then that 1 player can kill the monsters and have a fun interaction of combat where they cant just waltz in and get whatever loot they want and be a mindless zombie but the combat is actually fun and engaging and at the end of the combat they're left with the feeling of "that was fun". Versus if you have 10 people who choose to jump in and fight monsters they adjust to that influx of numerous players in combat with them and maybe even a new set of combat dynamics get thrown into the mix because its not a single player attacking them, but the point here is 1 player or 10 players all trying to kill the target should have similar experiences in the combat of something being "fun" and everyone is paying attention to what they're doing and not being stuck with this "just press the buttons because its time to press the buttons" and the monsters will eventually die. Now onto the next part that I know some of you will start hollering "Night Market is GROUP content". Yes I agree GROUP content is absolutely necessary in the game and rewards should reflect the such for putting together a GROUP to do GROUP content. These encounters are absolutely intended to have numerous players engaging the encounters and all contributing to the effort of surviving and becoming victorious over whatever the encounter is. Should a solo player be able to go in by himself and complete any and all GROUP content? Short answer is No, that is why its GROUP content. Where I feel like the hiccup is in the Night Market is a good chunk of it is group content, but I literally dont see anyone else in the vast majority of the area. I have a much better chance of seeing someone standing in the palace afk than I do dynamically running into someone fighting monsters. I can probably count on 1 hand right now the number of people I have dynamically seen in the "group" areas of the night market. Yea I could absolutely start a group up and get people to go in there with me, but its not a forced setting like you would see with like a dungeon finder system. So if we're going to leave it open and just let people waltz in and continue to bash their head against mobs that they need 3+ minutes of constant interaction just to get the most basic adds down you probably need to litter the place with real players who can all contribute to fighting them and make the content more bearable OR force a queue system that will party people up with a common goal in mind and a sense of direction. Because what you have right now is just the wild west of chaos of people running in all cardinal directions doing different things when they do manage to see other players. On top of that you end up with the issue of to many people being in one spot killing something and these really powerful monsters die within seconds of spawning, again proving my point of needing a scalable system which leaves players with a positive combat experience after the fight is over with.
TL;DR: Combat needs to be reworked across the board with scalability to make simple encounter and difficult encounters engaging and fun.
Next the "rewards". All I'm going to really say with this is I truly though that there would be some "different" rewards depending on my choice of faction and honestly there isn't. They all 3 have the exact same rewards with the exception of a helm and shoulders. If you're going to go through the trouble of making a full system of factions and dicing things up and there suppose to be a sense of "choice" at least make it feel like there truly is a difference in what I am choosing. Honestly I feel like the Night Market would have been better off with no factions being involved and then having 1 vendor with the rewards and then you can choose 1 of 3 helm / shoulders that you like and then buy the other stuff that all 3 vendors have.
I could easily go on about other items of suggestion but I've been on my soapbox long enough I'll go back to my hole and wait patiently for the light bulb to come on I still love you ZOS and ESO
Thank you,
Defatank
I just wonder how much longer it will take for obvious suggestions and advice that has been given not only from myself but from other numerous sources of players that are truly invested in the best interest of ESO's development before we "get it right".
In the sense of combat as I have stated months and years ago.... Simply adding more HP to monsters to make them "more difficult" is not a proper way to develop and create content. The short answer here and you are being told again ZOS is that combat should be balanced in a manner where the player does not feel like they are "God mode" the entire time and not challenged what so ever and the same is the opposite of where players feel like they should "avoid" combat because they know they're going to get wrecked in .5 seconds of entering combat. Combat should feel like I need to actually pay attention to what is going on in front of me, use abilities at my disposal to do the "dance" of combat in dealing damage and staying alive in a dynamic form and not a static form of a "rotation". If your team can thread the needle I am talking about where combat is a balanced enjoyable form of "fun" in the sense that I am not a mindless zombie running around the world mashing a series of buttons simply because "its time to hit that button" but also whenever I choose to engage ANY enemy in the game world I am greeted with a feeling that the enemy absolutely has the potential to take my player down if I dont dedicate some level of focus in what I am doing. The next target in this design is the amount of "time" involved for each interaction of combat. So just exactly what is the "perfect" amount of time in combat? Well that depends. If I am just roaming around stonefalls fighting random beetles that combat time probably needs to be pretty short, but because they're beetles they're not dangerous right? Wrong. You could absolutely make that combat interaction just as fun and threatening with a short amount of time required for that combat. Versus going into a fight of me versus 8 monsters at once and I spend 3 minutes fighting them only to realize there is another 8 monsters 10 feet away thats going to be another 3 minutes of fighting. Your problem with both of these scenarios currently is the beetles I smack once and off to the next beetle and its honestly pretty pointless to interact with it and not fun and I just run around that beetle and carry on to whatever I am doing. Where as your 8 monsters that I have to dedicate 3 min of fighting to and eventually can kill them off seems to long winded of a fight and I am about to spend the next 30 min of my life trying to cover a small section of the map only for them to respawn behind me and that also becomes of thing that I am going to figure out a way to avoid that combat altogether (sneaking around / vampire stage 4) and get to my target. Both scenarios are not "fun". How do we fix this? Scaling. Give the monsters enough health by default so that if 1 player decides to interact then that 1 player can kill the monsters and have a fun interaction of combat where they cant just waltz in and get whatever loot they want and be a mindless zombie but the combat is actually fun and engaging and at the end of the combat they're left with the feeling of "that was fun". Versus if you have 10 people who choose to jump in and fight monsters they adjust to that influx of numerous players in combat with them and maybe even a new set of combat dynamics get thrown into the mix because its not a single player attacking them, but the point here is 1 player or 10 players all trying to kill the target should have similar experiences in the combat of something being "fun" and everyone is paying attention to what they're doing and not being stuck with this "just press the buttons because its time to press the buttons" and the monsters will eventually die. Now onto the next part that I know some of you will start hollering "Night Market is GROUP content". Yes I agree GROUP content is absolutely necessary in the game and rewards should reflect the such for putting together a GROUP to do GROUP content. These encounters are absolutely intended to have numerous players engaging the encounters and all contributing to the effort of surviving and becoming victorious over whatever the encounter is. Should a solo player be able to go in by himself and complete any and all GROUP content? Short answer is No, that is why its GROUP content. Where I feel like the hiccup is in the Night Market is a good chunk of it is group content, but I literally dont see anyone else in the vast majority of the area. I have a much better chance of seeing someone standing in the palace afk than I do dynamically running into someone fighting monsters. I can probably count on 1 hand right now the number of people I have dynamically seen in the "group" areas of the night market. Yea I could absolutely start a group up and get people to go in there with me, but its not a forced setting like you would see with like a dungeon finder system. So if we're going to leave it open and just let people waltz in and continue to bash their head against mobs that they need 3+ minutes of constant interaction just to get the most basic adds down you probably need to litter the place with real players who can all contribute to fighting them and make the content more bearable OR force a queue system that will party people up with a common goal in mind and a sense of direction. Because what you have right now is just the wild west of chaos of people running in all cardinal directions doing different things when they do manage to see other players. On top of that you end up with the issue of to many people being in one spot killing something and these really powerful monsters die within seconds of spawning, again proving my point of needing a scalable system which leaves players with a positive combat experience after the fight is over with.
TL;DR: Combat needs to be reworked across the board with scalability to make simple encounter and difficult encounters engaging and fun.
Next the "rewards". All I'm going to really say with this is I truly though that there would be some "different" rewards depending on my choice of faction and honestly there isn't. They all 3 have the exact same rewards with the exception of a helm and shoulders. If you're going to go through the trouble of making a full system of factions and dicing things up and there suppose to be a sense of "choice" at least make it feel like there truly is a difference in what I am choosing. Honestly I feel like the Night Market would have been better off with no factions being involved and then having 1 vendor with the rewards and then you can choose 1 of 3 helm / shoulders that you like and then buy the other stuff that all 3 vendors have.
I could easily go on about other items of suggestion but I've been on my soapbox long enough I'll go back to my hole and wait patiently for the light bulb to come on
I still love you ZOS and ESO Thank you,
Defatank
Defatank
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Re: U50 Feedback Thread for Class Mastery
Guys we are aware that most subclassed lines are a little bit o
Seconding this. Please make templars sustain passive work even when the shield is down, it wouldnt even be good or probably worth taking even then but it would at least be not as hilariously weak.
ArctosCethlenn wrote: »ItsNotLiving wrote: »Templar is still the lowest damage class and cannot compete in PvP. Judgements Brand double nerfed by battlespirit. 600 spell damage is not enough with how bad the damage options in the templars kit actually is.
Templar with the worst sustain and a terrible sustain mastery that only works if you're not being hit is pathetically hilarious, but when you add in the awful damage masteries you're left with a class that's only ever worth bringing along to buff the real classes to let them pad their numbers a bit more.
Seconding this. Please make templars sustain passive work even when the shield is down, it wouldnt even be good or probably worth taking even then but it would at least be not as hilariously weak.
acanca
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