Remathilis wrote: »

Major_Mangle wrote: »

Remathilis wrote: »

I swear I see this exact post for every new mythic released. Maybe just ban mythics in pvp?

What part of this mythic also being insanely overtuned in PvE did you miss?

Are the monsters and bosses whining for nerfs now?

Alright, let's try to explain the problem one more time...

Ability/Passive X does too much damage in PvP or PvE (only because Ability/Passive X procs status effects super easily/guaranteed)->Ability/Passive X damage gets nerfed. Builds not utilizing Shattered Paths Signet now get zero value out of Ability/Passive X (in PvE or PvP).

You are basing the entire balance of the game around builds running a mythic sourced from a limited-time event.

I'm sure you can see the problem here.

Hi, I'm leaving my comment here amidst the massive influx of complaints and hoping it's seen by those who need to see it. I will not return to this thread, I will not see people calling me a shill or whatever. I'm probably busy in the Night Market.

I only leave feedback if I feel very strongly about a topic, and I only criticize if I have suggestions on alternatives. Overall, the Night Market is something I feel strongly about in a positive way. On the gameplay aspect, I find it is difficult content that leads to interesting interactions and exciting successes. And on the narrative aspect, I have deeply enjoyed exploring the Starlit Plaza, speaking to NPCs both important and obscure, and reading every tidbit of lore left on the ground. I've had an excellent experience and am confused at the backlash, because I thought this kind of experience is exactly what was asked for.

Note that I am a fairly average PvE-Engager. I am not a Hashtag Elite Player. If I start to get too sweaty about builds and parsing or whatever, I log off and do the dishes. I do not deal high damage numbers. I primarily heal on a build that doesn't even have a monster set. All that being said, I have still had a great experience grouping to run NM so far. Even though I'm pretty much only in roleplay/trade/craft guilds, it has been pretty doable to jump into NM with those folks. For example, I don't know anybody in my trade guild, but I offered to join a small 4-person group who was running the oddities. Not only did we get our oddity achievement, we also got a Gilded enemy down (to much fanfare and celebration). Take my grain of salt however, in that I have yet to fully experience the Group Finder for Night Market, and I understand it is more difficult to group when you don't have access to a chat. Zone chat is usually my go-to for random grouping, and Starlit Plaza seems too instanced for that avenue to function well, at least in what I've experienced. If the method of random-grouping through those methods could be eased in some way, that may help folks without immediate access to communities.

Now, I want to say the following, because I see a lot of annoyance simply about NM being high level group content which cannot be solo'ed, as if it's a surprise. Every single bit of news I heard from official outlets was that this was high level group content which cannot be solo'ed. I thus entered the game, encountered high level group content which cannot be solo'ed, and lo, I was not surprised! The nature of this content was communicated very clearly. It is Condensed Craglorn. You will have an excellent time if you seek a group, communicate your goals, and relax a little about the fact that you will be dying a lot. Bring your repair kits, check your food buffs, and go get silly. Throw yourself against the Calamitous Dunegorger with nothing but 3 people and the sheer Unrelenting Force of your stubborn will. I mean it.

Tldr; I personally find the Night Market to be the fun, difficult group content people have been asking for, and I have been having more than a good enough time (even as someone kinda average at PvE) to say something about that in a public space.

I hope they don't add an easier mode. Instead I hope they are creative with rewards in future returns so people keep coming back for challenges.

This has been a wonderful experience to push a roleplayer out of my comfort zone into grouping with others and feeling joy at overcoming challenges. A mode where solo people bowl over mobs would not have had the same impact. I have met many in Night Market similar to myself who would never have even tried if a soloable/easy version existed.

I'm pretty sure I myself would have went the path of least resistance as well, but it's been so rewarding just trying.

I hope the devs find a way to fix this situation. Max CP here. I understand we all want challenging content, and NM difficulty feels refreshing for some of us. But something really needs to be done to help/satiate the new/solo/casual players. If ESO bleeds casuals and turns away the new bloods (potential future vets) because of the NM, that's negative growth. That's big doo-doo for ESO's future.

The more icons the better. Those werewolf icons are great.

Every time a good thing happens for PvE, the PvP crowd goes into meltdown mode.
They rage.
They complain.
They threaten to quit, call it the end of ESO.
And then, they adapt.

All I wish for is a little less noise.

Zodiarkslayer wrote: »

Every time a good thing happens for PvE, the PvP crowd goes into meltdown mode.
They rage.
They complain.
They threaten to quit, call it the end of ESO.
And then, they adapt.

All I wish for is a little less noise.

Where is the "good thing that happened for PvE"?

Unless you consider class and skill balance being calibrated around the assumption that everyone runs this mythic a good thing. I don't, because it is a shaky foundation and leaves everyone not running the mythic in the dust, whether it's in PvP or PvE.


I have already adapted by running this mythic on multiple builds, but this doesn't mean it's fun or good for the game... so you'll have to listen to this "noise" until the problem is solved. Sorry.