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Re: DK is extremely, ludicrously, overpowered in PvP.
I've been a warden main for 5 or so years. Just came back to ESO after a 3-year break, played some battlegrounds and Cyro (I'm a PVP'r)
Came back just in time for the DK refresh, so 1/2 the bg's are DK's spamming whips, exploiting sustain and corrosive, etc.
I don't care that warden is getting refreshed.
Thumbless Bot accurately described zos's commitment to pvp.
I'm done.
Came back just in time for the DK refresh, so 1/2 the bg's are DK's spamming whips, exploiting sustain and corrosive, etc.
I don't care that warden is getting refreshed.
Thumbless Bot accurately described zos's commitment to pvp.
I'm done.
Re: U50 Feedback Thread for Combat Refresh: Werewolf
autocookies wrote: »YandereGirlfriend wrote: »Mediocre_Talents wrote: »Let me make sure I understand the crying. NB can have 2 spec bows, Templar's can stand in their safe house (rune) and almost take no damage and still do insane burst, DK can press 3 buttons and be OP, wardens, I guess we will see next patch but WW gets a little utility and some burst finally and everyone loses their minds?
Why is everyone so worried about WW? Should the devs just remove it from the game, would that make everyone happy? I encourage ANYONE asking for more nerfs to play WW on live right now and see how bad of a class it is. Year over year, patch after patch the people who play WW are just left with crumbs. The refresh comes out and it's now 21 pages of people crying about how over-tuned it is.
I also didn't see half of these people calling for DK nerfs when update 49 hit the PTS and now some of them are DK mains. Nice.
Let's get back to focusing on bug fixes and actual things the devs can use to make WW better, not worse.
Don't worry devs are just nerfing werewolf some more and gonna call it a day. the whiners will get their way. 11 years of being worthless garbage, especially in PvE, and we're not allowed to even look forward to our own rework.
(From PTS Summary week 3, the patch coming on this incoming Monday)
I actually don't even know why the devs are doing this, I didn't even see that many people saying Werewolf Power is unhealthy in PvE.
Plenty of 200k one-bar WW parses out there currently so this reads as a wild overreaction.
And they are all on the same nightblade build. Which is already being adjusted so 200k werewolf will likely be gone soon anyways.
Which is making a great argument for why WW should not receive Class Masteries.
Instead, give it its own WW Masteries.
And make it a toggle while we're at it. The ult-gen minigame is tedious and adds nothing of value to gameplay.
Re: Night Market Opinion Poll
Nowhere near enough players in there to make it enjoyable. It should be instanced like it is. I’ve never seen more than 5-6 people in there, except for the first night.
It’s impossible to enjoy with so few people grinding it.
It’s impossible to enjoy with so few people grinding it.
Re: Official Night Market Feedback Thread
CameraBeardThePirate wrote: »
I don't have anything against groups in principle, but what kind of implementation is it that allows players to be alone in an instance on day two after release? I imagined it would be as it was advertised: entering the Night Market and finding it bustling with activity, various fixed or loose groups of players everywhere that you could simply join – but this?!
Lugaldu
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Re: Official Night Market Feedback Thread
You can do some solo stuff but it's slow tedious & takes a long time. Stealth, running dying or some mobs etc all to gain favor but once you hit 5000 there's no point.
Having more than one player (at least 5-10) is a necessity otherwise for any bosses.
Grouping with people not knowing that aoes & other non dot skills (cones, floaters etc) are completely useless when they keep running around moving the bosses from here to there, then trying to reload onto a character with high resistances & taunts of course I get an infinite loading screen.
I soloed the parch duneripper to get leads for the shattered paths signet & was almost close to killing it one time when I got an error that shutdown ESO. Tried to log back on but got internal error - somehow didn't lose my mind but it sucks that NM is hard in that you need other players or to not have errors or you lose progress on things or don't get loot even though you spent ages fighting something.
It's sometimes cool & fun but also incredibly frustrating as I'm logging on when I can & there seems to be like 5 people in the zone - this is a problem. Players are entering NM randomly with a low chance of finding a group.
Some people have all the district relics already & run into organised groups or have guild groups but I feel like it might take up most of the limited timespan of NM just to get them especially when RNG is involved.
Having more than one player (at least 5-10) is a necessity otherwise for any bosses.
Grouping with people not knowing that aoes & other non dot skills (cones, floaters etc) are completely useless when they keep running around moving the bosses from here to there, then trying to reload onto a character with high resistances & taunts of course I get an infinite loading screen.
I soloed the parch duneripper to get leads for the shattered paths signet & was almost close to killing it one time when I got an error that shutdown ESO. Tried to log back on but got internal error - somehow didn't lose my mind but it sucks that NM is hard in that you need other players or to not have errors or you lose progress on things or don't get loot even though you spent ages fighting something.
It's sometimes cool & fun but also incredibly frustrating as I'm logging on when I can & there seems to be like 5 people in the zone - this is a problem. Players are entering NM randomly with a low chance of finding a group.
Some people have all the district relics already & run into organised groups or have guild groups but I feel like it might take up most of the limited timespan of NM just to get them especially when RNG is involved.
Re: Update 50 PTS – Week 3 Summary
Inari Telvanni wrote: »I'm a little sad to see that the feedback I've been pushing about werewolf emotes has gone seemingly ignored or unseen...
The potential of werewolves having emotes again after all these years had me very excited.
Don't worry their only agenda is to nerf it into worthlessness and wash their hands of it.
coop500
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Re: Update 50 PTS – Week 3 Summary
Honestly man it's pretty friggen bad, especially once the classes get their reworks, we will be useless. Hell, we'll probably be useless quicker than that, but I'm trying not to give people room to argue and hair split.
I thought the point of the reworks was to bring new life and power to playstyles nobody plays. But I guess since werewolf offends the normal people too much across the board (PvP and PvE) then the devs deem it safe to leave werewolves as suck monsters because we werewolf community will still play it even if it does suck, and them sucking means people who don't play them won't get offended.
This is what I've been trying to say for awhile now but nobody really cares if werewolf is good in PvE. Melee in PvE is already punished to hell, melee cleave is even more of a joke, especially as weak as it is now, and about to be weaker apparently.
I'm sorry I finally pulled 140K DPS devs (with a mythic that will undoubtedly get nerfed), I understand having fun with Werewolf isn't allowed.
I thought the point of the reworks was to bring new life and power to playstyles nobody plays. But I guess since werewolf offends the normal people too much across the board (PvP and PvE) then the devs deem it safe to leave werewolves as suck monsters because we werewolf community will still play it even if it does suck, and them sucking means people who don't play them won't get offended.
Melee cleave is a joke for PvE and the more I think about it, the more I realize that werewolf is still vastly inferior to any other spec especially with claws (so PvE shouldn’t be a consideration at this point as we can make that a bit better later down the road too).
This is what I've been trying to say for awhile now but nobody really cares if werewolf is good in PvE. Melee in PvE is already punished to hell, melee cleave is even more of a joke, especially as weak as it is now, and about to be weaker apparently.
I'm sorry I finally pulled 140K DPS devs (with a mythic that will undoubtedly get nerfed), I understand having fun with Werewolf isn't allowed.
coop500
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Re: Now that we can hide all armor...
Gloambound style means that the mechanism for this is already in the code. Separate the hiding from the style and we're there.
That means they want you to buy this feature, it will not be free
imPDA
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Re: U50 Feedback Thread for Combat Refresh: Werewolf
dark_hunterxmg wrote: »
If the real player stands there face tanking like React does, he will.
No reason to sit here making blatantly false statements. Seems to be a lot of attacks on my character or the integrity of the testing I've provided going on.
Every single CMX I've provided apart from one single CMX weeks ago where static acted as a parse dummy (which was disclosed at the time of posting) has been from proper duels complete with healing, blocking, rolling, kiting, stuns, attempts to outspace and pressure back, etc.
There aren't any attempts to deceive or manipulate with any of the data provided. We're putting on realistic PVP builds and fighting normally. In my case since the EU copy on week 3, I've actually been using my live PC EU character to fight the WWs - the build I run every day for solo PVP in cyrodiil/IC.
You are NOT doing 10k DPS on werewolf to a person (“with max resistances”) doing these things. ~even if I could it doesn’t truly matter as I have absolutely no burst and my whole kit is purgeable~ And if you are, it’s because of sorc mastery and/Signet which you and I both know will be nerfed into the group and werewolf will be left as is.
You are ridiculously disingenuous but I suppose I can only direct my frustration towards the combat team/feedback handling as it seems that they are only ever able to see the feedback to nerf werewolf but not buff it or sidegrade it.
Wuuffyy
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Re: U50 Feedback Thread for Combat Refresh: Werewolf
Mediocre_Talents wrote: »Ok, so a WW does 200k parce damage? OH NO! PVE is still going to be 8 Arc's with beams anyways. That 200k damage is single target which isn't really used in PvE anyways.
Yup, 200K DPS on a melee only build with lame melee cleave will never see the light of day in real content. That's something even the devs don't seem to understand about why Beam is still king. It's got range, it's got cleave, it gives the user a giant ass shield to just ignore incoming damage while they channel it, it's nuts.
And yes I do play beam, reluctantly, because I want to actually achieve things with success. It's depressing how much weaker all of my characters are in practice over my beam man.
I came into this rework hoping my werewolf could at least become decent enough that it won't be such a huge self nerf to play as WW instead of Beam.
OBVIOUSLY that was a mistake to have hope after being garbage for 11 years.
coop500
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