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Re: Nerfing WW further in Next Update for PvE?!
Well seems like WW will be stronger than a lot of subclassed setups in pve too. Pelican just posted 2 videos, parsin 185.7k (pve) and 101k (pvp) which is pretty crazy with just 3 skills.
Why is everyone overreacting to the nerfs?
NGL I don't fully trust what Pelican says, he hates WWs and will do anything to 'stick it to the furries'
I mean you can test it yourself on pts, he shows the builds in the videos as well (rele + aries cry). So you can fully replicate them yourself. And if it completely legit, at least to me 185.7k is huge damage in pve, considering the usual i see when im tanking.
Signet Ring too?
Also you're forgetting that damage is coming at a steep cost. To even use Aries cry you have to be a warden, so that's not WW power, that's class set power, which everyone is abusing.
That's also probably with the Signet ring mythic, which is also cracked and everyone is abusing.
All the while very limited, short range and narrow cleave (seriously try it yourself, WW cleave skill is the worst of Arcanist Beam and DK breath, it's narrow and short) or Single Target only, melee only, and limited utility, and juggling your ultimate steadily declining every ten seconds. And we're getting nerfs tomorrow.
Someone needs to provide a build NOT using broken sets like Signet and Aerie's Cry or it's just proving THOSE sets are over preforming.
If you're not going to use Signet and other BiS options then you need to do the same for every other class that you compare WW damage to for U50. Otherwise it is a completely disingenuous and skewed comparison intended to make WW appear weaker than it actually is.
Because like, yeah, obviously when you self-nerf and don't use the best options then your damage is going to be lower.
"Abusing" is such a loaded and overused term as well. I would suggest to avoid it, especially when used as a catch-all for anything that someone doesn't like. It isn't "abuse" unless it's leveraging unintended behavior. And as far as anyone knows, Signet is performing exactly as intended. Folk are using the tools available to them in the way that is intended.
Re: Why is everyone so adverse to grouping for NM?
When Solstice came out on ESO+ a month or two ago, I was constantly forming and joining groups in chat, sharing quests etc. - it was very friendly and pleasant. I didn't need to form an 'official' group for the siege camps, as there were always at least a couple of players at each camp to help take the boss down.
I was expecting the same kind of experience with the Night Market. I didn't miss the fact that it was advertised as 'group content', and I wasn't put off. However the chat was dead, I saw one other player (who was as squishy as I was) and the one and only group in the Group Finder was so far away I died at least 20 times trying to get to them and then gave up.
It's too dismissive to say that players who don't like the Night Market missed the memo, or are anti-social and hate grouping. There's no soft grouping; zone chat is presumably 'per instance' rather than zone wide, so no finding any help there; and you may need multiple players for even the easiest faction quests (two players and our companions couldn't get past the trash mobs in my experience), which players might feel embarrassed posting a request in group finder for.
If people are enjoying it, fine. I gave it a crack and now I'm enjoying not doing it!
I was expecting the same kind of experience with the Night Market. I didn't miss the fact that it was advertised as 'group content', and I wasn't put off. However the chat was dead, I saw one other player (who was as squishy as I was) and the one and only group in the Group Finder was so far away I died at least 20 times trying to get to them and then gave up.
It's too dismissive to say that players who don't like the Night Market missed the memo, or are anti-social and hate grouping. There's no soft grouping; zone chat is presumably 'per instance' rather than zone wide, so no finding any help there; and you may need multiple players for even the easiest faction quests (two players and our companions couldn't get past the trash mobs in my experience), which players might feel embarrassed posting a request in group finder for.
If people are enjoying it, fine. I gave it a crack and now I'm enjoying not doing it!
Grec1a
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Re: Oddities in Night Market
katanagirl1 wrote: »I’m all for colorblind options, the hubby can’t see the difference between red and green most times. I don’t think the colors matter for the puzzles though, it’s one symbol per lane in each case.
It doesn't matter for the spider one but it does matter for guiding lights. I don't recall seeing the matching symbols on the rocks themselves, so the pads having icons on them doesn't do anything to help there either unfortunately.
Soarora
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Re: Oddities in Night Market
Riddles are fun but not in a 12 members group lol.
I did lead my guild 12 members team in a run to complete all oddities and we did manage it but had to redo all riddles 3 times because some bug prevented random members to get the completion and the respawn was a disaster in a 12 member context.
It wasen't easy to keep the group togheter.
ZOS if you are reading the boulder oddities are particularly bugged and at time they don't assign the completion for someone in the group even if he is close or actively partecipated in the puzzle.
Making all 12 do something in certain puzzles is really difficult.
I did lead my guild 12 members team in a run to complete all oddities and we did manage it but had to redo all riddles 3 times because some bug prevented random members to get the completion and the respawn was a disaster in a 12 member context.
It wasen't easy to keep the group togheter.
ZOS if you are reading the boulder oddities are particularly bugged and at time they don't assign the completion for someone in the group even if he is close or actively partecipated in the puzzle.
Making all 12 do something in certain puzzles is really difficult.
Silaf
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Re: Update 50 PTS – Week 3 Summary
Just disable Class Masteries for WW and call it a day. EZ.
Or just give werewolf its own ‘masteries’. They are just passives after all. They don’t even have to infuse a tons of damage or anything and we can avoid completely locking werewolf us out of yet another system that will stifle creativity further alongside build expression.
I quite literally have a viable suggestion on my general PTS forum post with 4 of 5 of the possible passives ~provided~. (Just simple things that aren’t injecting power anywhere in particular/crazy at all).
They could honestly just make ‘place holder passives’ for ‘werewolf mastery’ that are like 2-4% damage here, 2-4% healing there and then 2-4% damage taken reduced’ and just change them later… so we have them to work with and they’re not ‘calling it’.
Wuuffyy
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Re: Bring Back Heavy Attack Werewolf
I very much appreciated having reasons to heavy attack, especially during off-balance windows (y'all, it just 'felt nice'- I can't explain this part).
Stam cost reduction was in-part rationalized with a damage reduction from live... but I'd both rather have the damage and just 'normal build' costs for an actual reason to both build stam (for damage) and to heavy attack. In PvP or tanking, it's not like it's difficult to build low cost/heavy attack/build regen for sustain anyway. You lose efficiency on any build OTHER than a pure ganker not building things like tri-glyphs, using tri-pots, building 5-1-1, etc. anyway.
In other words, this wasn't a 'huge favor' at least while tanking/in PvP- especially when Hircine's Fortitude/Rage is our 'Stamina only' dark deal now in PvP.
I DON'T speak for everyone. Simply giving my opinion based on my own preferences.
Stam cost reduction was in-part rationalized with a damage reduction from live... but I'd both rather have the damage and just 'normal build' costs for an actual reason to both build stam (for damage) and to heavy attack. In PvP or tanking, it's not like it's difficult to build low cost/heavy attack/build regen for sustain anyway. You lose efficiency on any build OTHER than a pure ganker not building things like tri-glyphs, using tri-pots, building 5-1-1, etc. anyway.
In other words, this wasn't a 'huge favor' at least while tanking/in PvP- especially when Hircine's Fortitude/Rage is our 'Stamina only' dark deal now in PvP.
I DON'T speak for everyone. Simply giving my opinion based on my own preferences.
Wuuffyy
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Re: Update 50 PTS – Week 3 Summary
Honestly I'd prefer Mastery Passives to be disabled for WW for now as well as a test than to see WW overall nerfed yet again.YandereGirlfriend wrote: »huskandhunger wrote: »
Consider toning down the raw power of this passive as well from "up to once every 200ms" to "up to once every 2 seconds" to match status effect damage over times
Just disable Class Masteries for WW and call it a day. EZ.
Then we don't have to nerf Sorc just because of its interaction with WW.
Arunei
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