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Re: Gatekeeping and the Beam Meta
Nah it's bad players. There will always be a best set right up until they put us all in the same gear like the PvP tests that are happening. Then players will want to kick you for not running to next pull quick enough or standing in the wrong spot or who knows what. Those bad players are still going to be bad players.
What changes would make the bad players suddenly become decent?
its not "just bad player" prior to this year i've NEVER seen that many group in group finder actively refusing HA or onebar build.
If you want to stay on copium and say everything normal and its always been that way, well i can't pull you out of your cognitive dissonance.
See when you insult the messenger that tells me you don't have a legitimate response to the message. Again I ask what changes to the game would make these players with bad attitudes suddenly start acting decent?
Calling out copium isn’t an insult, it’s frustration at people pretending this has always been the same. It hasn’t. I’ve played since beta, and only recently have I seen HA and one-bar players consistently refused in group finder. That shift didn’t come out of nowhere, it came from design changes funneling everyone into one meta. No change will magically make every rude player ‘act decent,’ but better balance and viable alternatives would remove the excuses people hide behind to gatekeep in the first place.
Also played since Beta and remember standing outside a dungeon hoping to be picked up for a group only to be asked what armor and skills I had on. I remember guilds only allowing players to join groups after completing a parse on a specific boss before we had target dummies. Some groups required a player prove they finished vet Maelstrom Arena before allowing that player to join. Claimed it proved situational awareness and the ability to do the mechanics. Requiring certain sets or preformance proof has always been a part of the game because of the players that make those demands.
The one-bar builds are getting grief now because so many players posted them in social media as a quick easy way to get high numbers. That led to a lot of less experienced players using the build and believing the hype. Those that can use the build effective got caught up in the generalization of it being a crutch build for beginners. For a while the one bar build was the flavor of the month and now it is not. Not the games fault.
Almost any build is viable unless you are trying for a trifecta or a place on the leader board. Some players demand certain builds in their groups hoping the high DPS will allow them to ignore mechanics. Again that is a player problem not a game problem. There will always be a META and there will always be players that make demands even if the difference is minimal.
I'm all for better balance but better balance isn't going to fix the problem that is being addressed here.
kargen27
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Re: What's So Fun About PvP?
My friend who enjoy PvP like the challenge of fighting other players.
Re: What's So Fun About PvP?
ESO only game with this level of build diversity and PvP which doesn't gimp you for having fun. DOTA might have more strategy but this has the most fun builds when it comes to PvP.
Kappachi
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Re: Gatekeeping and the Beam Meta
frogthroat wrote: »Alchimiste1 wrote: »Sorry, but I'm not going to carry a HA DD
But why? I neeeeed carry because it's late and I am too tired to do a second parse.
Edit: oh yeah, and this is practically one bar. Replace back bar crit surge with spell power potions and you never need to visit the back bar.
98K, and area damage only accounts for about 40% of total DPS.
In contrast, any Arc/NB or DK or Templar can reach up to 120K up, with area damage accounting for 7-80% of total DPS. It also has self-healing (Cephaliarch's Flail), a shield (Fatecarver), and can achieve 125% critical damage and 18,200 pen without requiring a sup.
Any sane RL taking on a high-difficulty Trial would prefer the latter over the former.
Re: Would you like an event that gave us more transmute crystals as a reward?
DenverRalphy wrote: »The event is already dropping substantially more than double transmute crystals. Every reward box you open drops some.
I haven't received any transmutes this event aside from the usual reward from the pledge turn ins. I opened maybe 14 boxes so far, which I know isn't a lot, but I should have seen at least one box with transmutes? Unless you mean the daily randoms, which I don't do.
Previous event boxes gave us a chance for a handful of transmutes, I really appreciated those.
Re: This is how ESO recovers: a tale of two MMOs
I occasionally find something to hold onto that makes me feel like they might be listening to feedback and that the game will improve for me. The last comment about subclassing has pretty much made me give up hope now. The time for listening has passed, by the time they ever do, if they even do, it will be too late to turn the ship around.
I just try to get as much enjoyment out of the game as I can. All elements that I play in have been degraded though, PvE, PvP, housing. Every time I log in I remember how much better those things used to be.
I just try to get as much enjoyment out of the game as I can. All elements that I play in have been degraded though, PvE, PvP, housing. Every time I log in I remember how much better those things used to be.
Re: Sorc class set "Beacon of Oblivion" now just a subclass set
@NxJoeyD testing a % damage done set in a solo environment should appear stronger because it's not being diluted by diminishing returns found from stacking group damage done debuff/buffs you wouldn't have access to.
On the other hand, using a crit set combo like Advancing Yokeda and Sliver of Null Arca in solo possibly wouldn't appear as strong comparatively because you don't have max 125% Crit Damage, nor are you getting any use from minor slayer on a world boss, you're getting much less value there.
This is why the trial dummy is useful because it takes these 2 factors into account.
That said, it's a decent solo or small group set, but it should fall off for trials unless you really value that 1.2k health and 1.5k armor, but I'd argue a good group shouldn't have their DDs prioritize these stats over DPS ones. If things go wrong like you said, maybe you don't run in an optimized group or pug most of the time, then that wiggle room could be useful and maybe the set comes ahead.
You could say it increases your healing done, but so does Crit Chance or Weapon/Spell Damage. In the case of Crit Surge for example, taking Beacon over Advancing Yokeda is a loss of -20% Crit chance. That is massive.
About the pet side of the set, it's completely useless. A damage dealing pet Sorc does not need armor and health in any competitive capacity, full stop. A tank wouldn't want this either, it's just a worse version of Fortified Brass which no one has used for 8 or 9 years.
Above all else, this set is just poorly implemented from a design standpoint. It's dead in PvP and punishes you for using pets instead of rewarding you. No pet Sorc has the Storm Calling and Dark Magic skill lines for potential damage dealing sets, it's almost like they knew the Storm Calling set was so bad, they chose to throw us a bone with Beacon.
If they wanted to make a Daedric Summoning set for tank/damage dealing, they could of easily made a summoned pet like Maw which scales it's damage based on your w/s damage which applies a debuff with a duration that scales based on your Max HP. What they ended up making is so unbelievably bland, it completely defeats the fun factor of class specific set potential.
On the other hand, using a crit set combo like Advancing Yokeda and Sliver of Null Arca in solo possibly wouldn't appear as strong comparatively because you don't have max 125% Crit Damage, nor are you getting any use from minor slayer on a world boss, you're getting much less value there.
This is why the trial dummy is useful because it takes these 2 factors into account.
That said, it's a decent solo or small group set, but it should fall off for trials unless you really value that 1.2k health and 1.5k armor, but I'd argue a good group shouldn't have their DDs prioritize these stats over DPS ones. If things go wrong like you said, maybe you don't run in an optimized group or pug most of the time, then that wiggle room could be useful and maybe the set comes ahead.
You could say it increases your healing done, but so does Crit Chance or Weapon/Spell Damage. In the case of Crit Surge for example, taking Beacon over Advancing Yokeda is a loss of -20% Crit chance. That is massive.
About the pet side of the set, it's completely useless. A damage dealing pet Sorc does not need armor and health in any competitive capacity, full stop. A tank wouldn't want this either, it's just a worse version of Fortified Brass which no one has used for 8 or 9 years.
Above all else, this set is just poorly implemented from a design standpoint. It's dead in PvP and punishes you for using pets instead of rewarding you. No pet Sorc has the Storm Calling and Dark Magic skill lines for potential damage dealing sets, it's almost like they knew the Storm Calling set was so bad, they chose to throw us a bone with Beacon.
If they wanted to make a Daedric Summoning set for tank/damage dealing, they could of easily made a summoned pet like Maw which scales it's damage based on your w/s damage which applies a debuff with a duration that scales based on your Max HP. What they ended up making is so unbelievably bland, it completely defeats the fun factor of class specific set potential.
Re: Companions should have Skill Styles, too!
But what about skill styles? This would add another layer of customization to our Companions and I'd love to see it.
Re: This is how ESO recovers: a tale of two MMOs
katanagirl1 wrote: »I occasionally find something to hold onto that makes me feel like they might be listening to feedback and that the game will improve for me. The last comment about subclassing has pretty much made me give up hope now. The time for listening has passed, by the time they ever do, if they even do, it will be too late to turn the ship around.
I just try to get as much enjoyment out of the game as I can. All elements that I play in have been degraded though, PvE, PvP, housing. Every time I log in I remember how much better those things used to be.
Subclassing makes it so this is the only game where you can live that like anime fantasy isekai-style life with any kind of build you can imagine. The item sets+ mythic bonus and now subclassing/scribing allow you more build freedom than any mmo even though you're limited to 12 abilities. I see no issue with subclassing and hope they add even more ways to make bizarre builds.
I’m happy with the characters I have developed and am totally not interested in anime anything. If I were, I’d play Final Fantasy instead.
Re: What's So Fun About PvP?
For me, fighting other players challenges me more then NPC's and Boss fights. It takes a different skill set to predict people over AI. I enjoy the challenge. For some people it is much more.
Rohamad_Ali
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