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ESO Combat Isn't Hard to Grasp
...there's just no tutorial.
I downloaded WoW yesterday, and there's a couple of "train with me, recruit!" miniquests as you wade in on your first mission to rescue your shipwrecked survivors.
It teaches you about effect over time effects using story language, and shows you a spammable.
You begin the game w two skills, an over time and a spammable.
Your first 2 missions use these. So, they're used after the tutorial, w a minipractice inbetween.
So:
Introduction/practice -> quest -> practice again -> quest
ESO's tutorial teaches light attacks and blocking, but it never touches on these pillars of gameplay.
The result has been a decade of confusion and frustration, and an enforcement of "skill gap." Yes, a gap in gameplay will exist, but not showing these basics has had a devastating effect.
After seeing how simply WoW does it (a game w a muuch longer skill bar) it shows even more how this could easily be implemented.
I downloaded WoW yesterday, and there's a couple of "train with me, recruit!" miniquests as you wade in on your first mission to rescue your shipwrecked survivors.
It teaches you about effect over time effects using story language, and shows you a spammable.
You begin the game w two skills, an over time and a spammable.
Your first 2 missions use these. So, they're used after the tutorial, w a minipractice inbetween.
So:
Introduction/practice -> quest -> practice again -> quest
ESO's tutorial teaches light attacks and blocking, but it never touches on these pillars of gameplay.
The result has been a decade of confusion and frustration, and an enforcement of "skill gap." Yes, a gap in gameplay will exist, but not showing these basics has had a devastating effect.
After seeing how simply WoW does it (a game w a muuch longer skill bar) it shows even more how this could easily be implemented.
Re: Request for Housing music changer ♪
no.Isn't this what music boxes are for?
EDIT: They should add self-playing instruments for background ambience, like the music boxes, and what you could so is bury these in a wall, ceiling or floor for music sans furnishing. Sorry, posting this when I'm tired. XD
music boxes generally do not play zone music and are not for the entirety of a house.
the suggestion in your edit does seem nice too, just slightly different from my own post
Re: ESO´s Population is lowered to 2017 level
I used to be very active. But I finished all quests, maxed out all zones, skill lines and companions and completed the sticker book. So I don't really play either except for 5 minutes for endeavors
I am waiting for content to play again. They really need to focus more on actual content again instead of events or random stuff.
And if I want to PvP I play Overwatch, Marvel Rivals, Battlefield, Call Of Duty or other games.
I am waiting for content to play again. They really need to focus more on actual content again instead of events or random stuff.
And if I want to PvP I play Overwatch, Marvel Rivals, Battlefield, Call Of Duty or other games.
Re: Spoofed Guilds on PC-NA Traders
It's perfectly clear that:
- Anyone with the gold can bid on and win any spot they'd like to, even with an empty store.
- If a character name like "IStoleYourSpot" is within the TOS, then it's within the TOS
- Guilds don't own copyrights on their names. Similar names are allowed.
Where I think this becomes problematic:
- The system bars *identical* guild names from being created. That rule is being circumvented with creative capitalization to make the names look completely identical (outside of gamepad mode).
At the very least, a Guild Name change should be required. If they want to be "Savage Biade" then let it be seen by the public as such.
Edit: Just saw your reply, @ZOS_Kevin - thanks for looking into this!
- Anyone with the gold can bid on and win any spot they'd like to, even with an empty store.
- If a character name like "IStoleYourSpot" is within the TOS, then it's within the TOS
- Guilds don't own copyrights on their names. Similar names are allowed.
Where I think this becomes problematic:
- The system bars *identical* guild names from being created. That rule is being circumvented with creative capitalization to make the names look completely identical (outside of gamepad mode).
At the very least, a Guild Name change should be required. If they want to be "Savage Biade" then let it be seen by the public as such.
Edit: Just saw your reply, @ZOS_Kevin - thanks for looking into this!
hiyde
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Re: What has caused you to quit the game or barely play any more? What would bring you back?
Pixiepumpkin wrote: »What caused my wife and I to quit? Subclassing.
What will bring us back? Remove subclassing.
Is it the system itself or zos's incredibly poor management of balancing it that is the problem?
Re: Who'd like to see elemental recalls for Fire and Lightning?
I would absolutely love some elemental recalls (fire, snow, lightning, sand) done in a similar swirl as the autumn leaves, nice and subtle.
Altyri
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Re: Honestly - Is Vengeance Viable?
Artisian0001 wrote: »MincMincMinc wrote: »Artisian0001 wrote: »So the time has shown now, nobody wants to play Vengeance anymore, as soon GH is back up.
@ZOS can you finally stomp that project now?
As much as I'd like them to allocate more resources to actually fixing the problems in GH, I think keeping it up will only show them that they are out of touch with what the community wants when it continues to get smaller and smaller. Along with the fact that some people actually do enjoy it, albeit a lot less, but allowing the small portion of them to play it is fine. They just need to, for once, dial in on cyro PvP and minimizing the issues it has. It's one of the main reasons people are still around, even with how bad it can get during volendrung spawns.
The issue with live GH cyrodil is the game itself. To fix it involves cutting out half the sets in the game, cutting down on proc effects like poisons, status effects, passives. Then gutting skills so they dont have multiple paragraph parts to them. Major rule changes would have to be reverted like how over time effects used to not stack. Tons of other game design needs to change like how everyone moves 2x the old run speed and mount speed letting players not get ganked. Groups easily converge without being split up by gankers and side objectives artificially spreading the population out.
Its quite literally making a new game from scratch at this point. Which is where many hoped vengeance would lead to, but no plan from zos has been released or discussed to this extent.
Vengeance was made to give a new experience to PvP but the main reason was to address performance issues and allow more people to play, so the main issue isn't balance but performance that should be addressed, and fixing the issue of memory leak which has existed for such a long period of time, just that issue alone would make performance day and night.
Balance and performance both need to be addressed because PvP will continue to decline otherwise. If they address performance, but not balance, people will still avoid PvP. If they address balance, but not performance, then Cyrodiil is still unplayable and the population caps are too low to keep it fun.
MincMinc is totally right and they articulated what I was trying to say much better than me. The first Vengeance test performed pretty well and held a ton of people. They should've tested more aggressively by adding as much as they could while maintaining the performance and population caps of Vengeance 1. Instead they conducted tests months apart and added very little at a time.
I think it's likely they could've maintained the performance and population of Vengeance 1 even after adding simple stat based sets, more skills, and a bit more complexity to the existing skills. At some point we would end up with something closely resembling 2015-2016 PvP in ESO. Damage and healing values could be tweaked as needed without worrying about PvE at all. There was a reason PvP had such massive populations and a steady influx of new players back then. One Tamriel was one of the biggest PvP mass exoduses I have ever seen and that's the patch when the procs and heavy armor builds really started to get out of control. Grey Host is significantly worse than even One Tamriel Cyrodiil was. It's no surprise PvPers refuse to return and new players quit after staying in for just a few minutes.
Think about how much needs to be calculated in an environment like Grey Host vs. an environment like Vengeance. A single light attack in Grey Host does it's own damage, can proc a proc set, can proc an enchant, the enchant can proc a status effect, then the proc set can proc a status effect. All of that is impacted by CP and there's probability calculations needed for those damage events. That's a lot of instances of damage from one small action and from a gameplay perspective it's extremely low skill and effortless. I think it's better for both performance and balance if a player is more directly responsible for the damage they deal in PvP environments. You should actually have to use and time abilities to be effective. If you agree with me here, then ask yourself how Grey Host will address the issue of free effortless damage without having terrible consequences for PvE. Battle Spirit alone can't fix that.
Stamicka
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Re: What has caused you to quit the game or barely play any more? What would bring you back?
I also have not quit but like many my play time on ESO is bare minimum right now. No more money goes towards this game until, well, until a product is produced that deserves it really. My list of pain points all have been covered by previous posts. And that's kinda what has brought me to this point in the game. I hope things can be turned around in 2026. But I'm not holding my breath.
noxdave
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Re: What has caused you to quit the game or barely play any more? What would bring you back?
I haven't quit entirely but I'm playing very occasionally now. For me it was a combination of;
1. Lack of race and class identity. It used to matter what race and class you picked, I miss when classes had a stamina or magicka only variant too for example if i was playing a DK DPS I would pick dark elf and spec into magicka because dunmer used to have flame damage passives that were unique to dunmer alone. This identity always made me extremely curious to try out other races and classes too and always kept me playing the game and enjoying it but now it just feels stale and monotone.
2. No more chapters, but instead a season pass. This in my opinion was a huge mistake because of how ineffective Solstice was. Not once did I feel the urge to login during the writhing wall event, instead this event felt dragged out, unnecessary and simply boring. With the chapters I would always look forward to what was to come but I did not feel that way with Solstice and the writhing wall event.
1. Lack of race and class identity. It used to matter what race and class you picked, I miss when classes had a stamina or magicka only variant too for example if i was playing a DK DPS I would pick dark elf and spec into magicka because dunmer used to have flame damage passives that were unique to dunmer alone. This identity always made me extremely curious to try out other races and classes too and always kept me playing the game and enjoying it but now it just feels stale and monotone.
2. No more chapters, but instead a season pass. This in my opinion was a huge mistake because of how ineffective Solstice was. Not once did I feel the urge to login during the writhing wall event, instead this event felt dragged out, unnecessary and simply boring. With the chapters I would always look forward to what was to come but I did not feel that way with Solstice and the writhing wall event.
