LennaTheRussian wrote: »

Battlescaling is active, but for some reason they over-tuned it. You go in with 25k health and it gets dropped to 11k. 1k stam recovery turns into 300.

I'm sure it's a bug but like it's been a full month. It's been reported on here multiple times too.

I actually ran an under 50 BGs yesterday (just trying to level a new toon) and I noticed something was way off. I had, like, no sustain. I expected to have less health (champ points disabled), but health was much lower than it should have been.

I had no idea this was another pervasive issue. I thought I was just misremembering how it had been (been a LONG time since I’ve done under 50)

People are frustrated because the Zone was marketed as something where grouping was encouraged but not required, grouping would make it easier but you could also go in solo if you were fine with a challenge. Except that's not the case, the Zone practically requires grouping unless you're one of those top percent of players who can solo things like Dragons.

From what I've seen said over and over on the forums, there's also problems with grouping. Many people have brought up how instances are empty or near-empty, and groups they try to make take a while to fill. There's the fact that if you join a group too far in, you more than likely won't be able to reach them because of the overtuned trash packs in your way. There's the fact that certain quests can't be shared so people might have different goals. There are other things that I can't think of right now but basically it's essentially a group Zone where actually grouping can be very hard.

Also the people stating that the forums are just a minority of players and claiming they're seeing a lot of support ingame need to realize they're also only seeing a minority of the game's playerbase's reactions. So trying to dismiss the number of people bringing up concerns or giving negative feedback by saying "well the majority of the feedback I'm seeing ingame is positive!" is both disingenuous and being hypocritical. It's true that most people who play the game likely don't even know the forums exist, let alone bother coming here. But you're also not going to see anywhere near eveeyone ingame talking in Zone or the Guild chats either, so...

And it's not just people here on the forums voicing dissatisfaction and concerns, it's on Steam and Reddit as well.

Don't people remember Craglorn? One reason it got nerfed was because it was too hard and people weren't going there. NM will go the same way, forced grouping for Zones had already proven to not be what a majority of people want even back then.

I'll genuinely be surprised if the NM isn't largely dead within the next several weeks. Not even simply because of the difficulty and instances already being reported as ghost towns more often than not, but it happens with more group-oriented content EVERY big release. Dragons. Harrowstorms. Those fiery Incursions in High Isle I think it is that idr the name of. People who enjoy the content will do it for a while and then either get everything they wanted or get bored and stop doing it, eventually making it harder for people who can't solo the things to do because finding groups of people doing the stuff is hard.

Battlescaling is active, but for some reason they over-tuned it. You go in with 25k health and it gets dropped to 11k. 1k stam recovery turns into 300.

I'm sure it's a bug but like it's been a full month. It's been reported on here multiple times too.

My attitude with MMOs is that it's nice when you can do some stuff by yourself, but I would never expect that. I expect that I'll have to group up for difficult content and I do so willingly even as a solitary/solo person. Because why make life harder for myself than it needs to be? If I was making ESO more frustrating by refusing to group, I'd be asking myself, "is this restrictive mindset actually doing me any good here?" Because in that scenario, the game doesn't need to change. I can say, "okay, this is a problem I have made for myself, so I'm going to solve it by grouping up."

Choosing to play solo is a choice. If you make that choice, you need to accept the limitations that it brings. Complaining every time there are group activities in a Golden Pursuit or content like the Night Market, just comes across as a wee bit entitled.

I'm intimidated (I rarely do vet content, let alone vet DLC dungeon/trials) and hesitant to group up, even with guildmates or friends when I get no response.

Arunei wrote: »

spartaxoxo wrote: »

Arunei wrote: »

This isn't true. There have been a number of people in numerous threads that mention doing Vet Trials or HM Dungeons or being part of raid groups being unable to get passed trash packs.

Yes but a highly coordinated raid group allows you to get away with builds that do not work when you're out solo or in less coordinated groups

My main point is that these people, who know how to make builds for high-end content, likely know how to make high-end solo builds as well. But people who are skilled at running high-end content are having problems.

That's not an assumption I would make given the various responses. I can only speak for myself but I find group play and solo play to be different enough that I have to change up the way that I play and my builds to take on harder solo challenges.

It took me a while to be able to move past Arc 4, for example. And I had already been some Vet HM dungeon clears and vet trial clears under my belt but I had to change the way I played and built to get past that hurdle. And learning to be able to solo past Arc 4 in IA has very much benefited me in the Night Market.

Not everyone who has done the hardest group challenges have taken on the hardest solo ones or vice versa.

If someone can't handle the trash packs, I would recommend the player adjust their build and the way that they play (assuming that such a user doesn't have additional hurdles that may prevent such things such as age, disability, tech issues, etc). Being able to handle the trash packs is very much doable. I am not an elite player.

how dare they stop selling tires for khajiit's 1927 Ford Model T as well!

Well I play on a SNES and it looks horrible! Why won't ZOS cater to my play style?!

Whiile I feel they played fast and loose with the term "wing" in the Night's Den, I do prefer the Night's Den layout over Lunar Champion. Mainly because my 3 additions to the Lunar Chanmpion never see any use. Ever. Perhaps once or twice when I first unlocked them so I could say "cool!" But realistically, after that I never bothered to decorate them because honestly, I'm too lazy to portal to another instance for each wing within the same home.