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Re: Why isn't there a normal Night Market mode?
SilverBride wrote: »SilverBride wrote: »My investment is that I'd like to be able to experience the content, but things I've read and stories I've heard from others push me away. I enjoy group content. I've done every dungeon in the game on both normal and veteran (except I still need the last two dungeons on veteran), and every trial on normal but have yet to try a veteran one. But the Night Market just reminds me too much of early Craglorn and that experience pushed me to quit the game for a couple of years.
Maybe instead of reading stories and drawing conclusions you should go out and try it yourself. I'm almost certain that this is far easier than the trials and vet dungeons you finished.
If what is preventing you from experiencing this firsthand before making a lot of requests, is a very personal trigger from your Craglorn experience, I'm sure the devs can't design everything around this very personal emotional reaction to something that happened years ago and that probably isn't shared at this level by most people.
I think knowing how players can be negatively affected is important information to have. I agree that they aren't likely to design things around my own experience but that aside doesn't change the fact that the difficulty of the Night Market is what is keeping a lot of players away.
Right now I am not doing the content but it is very possible I may venture in at some point. But with things just as they are now I can't say when that would be likely to happen.
We really should create a group to get you to go in
I hope you do, you have done far harder contant than I ever have. If I can do it, you'd probably be even better equipped than I was.
Re: Why isn't there a normal Night Market mode?
SilverBride wrote: »They can continue to play how they like and be who they are....in the rest of the game. Not every piece of content is going to be for everyone.
I'm still confused as to your investment in this, as you stated you can complete trials and also I believe stated you will not even be trying to participate in grouping in Night Market. Seems to be a lot of posts without even really experiencing it for yourself, and you have a lot of "casuals" telling you - who did take the time to personally experience NM - it's very accessible when joined with others.
My investment is that I'd like to be able to experience the content, but things I've read and stories I've heard from others push me away. I enjoy group content. I've done every dungeon in the game on both normal and veteran (except I still need the last two dungeons on veteran), and every trial on normal but have yet to try a veteran one. But the Night Market just reminds me too much of early Craglorn and that experience pushed me to quit the game for a couple of years.
Maybe instead of reading stories and drawing conclusions you should go out and try it yourself. I'm almost certain that this is far easier than the trials and vet dungeons you finished.
Silverbride, it saddens me that a player that clearly has the skills to succeed is afraid to even try. If the very casual DPS in my story above could overcome their anxiety and pull off a win, I am certain you could too given all you were already able to finish.
If what is preventing you from experiencing this firsthand before making a lot of requests, is a very personal trigger from your Craglorn experience, I'm sure the devs can't design everything around this very personal emotional reaction to something that happened years ago and that probably isn't shared at this level by most people.
Re: Shattered Paths Signet Is Problematic
Exactly this. The devs usually seem like they'll want to nerf everything BUT the thing actually causing the problem. I'm HOPING this dev team will listen about Signet at least and fix it instead of blanket-nerfing things that aren't actually the problem.They did, you just don't like how they went about doing so.BardokRedSnow wrote: »Honestly I don’t care about anything being nerfed besides xv1 ballgroups
Shattered Path Signet is gonna make players hate pressure builds the way the animal assassin one shot meta (powered by Monomyth Reforged) made players hate burst builds. Too many times this game sees entire classes and playstyles gutted for one stupid busted gear piece.
Arunei
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Nightmarket Skirmish - Timer bugged?
Hey,
yesterday I noticed that the skirmishes starts, even if the timer says "starts in 4 minutes" or so. Otherwise there is one active, but the timer for another says "starts soon (0 seconds)" and seemes like freezed.
I understand that is the timer for my instance, but I noticed this several times.
(and yes, I know that other instances have other timers. but talking about only my instance)
Anyone else with this problem?
(sorry for german screen)
yesterday I noticed that the skirmishes starts, even if the timer says "starts in 4 minutes" or so. Otherwise there is one active, but the timer for another says "starts soon (0 seconds)" and seemes like freezed.
I understand that is the timer for my instance, but I noticed this several times.
(and yes, I know that other instances have other timers. but talking about only my instance)
Anyone else with this problem?
(sorry for german screen)
Re: Concerns About ESO’s Future Direction and Solo Player Experience
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You said that you cannot do the quests at your own pace. But it seems like Chatgpt confused the NM with the Imperial City, because there's no real "story" per se in the Night Market. There's a few quick fetch quests, but that's it.
Koshka
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Re: maarselok (pvp)
thesarahandcompany wrote: »This is beyond a bad faith argument if I've ever seen one. Resto light attacks are nowhere near comparable. And Maarselok doesn't require set up. You can proc it with a medium attack lmao.
Earlier, you mentioned that Maarselok ticks for 4k damage four times for 12k damage (which, by the way, is 16k damage because math). Saying it doesn’t require set up implies that it just deals massive damage on its own, which 16k over four ticks doesn’t qualify. Nearly every other dot in the game hits harder.
If you’re dying to 16k damage dots, that just sounds like a ‘you’ problem.
Re: Official Night Market Feedback Thread
jad11mumbler wrote: »Its as advertised, a difficult group zone.
Do you have a citation for that? The advertisements I found appear to advertise it as possible but difficult to solo, with optional grouping to make it easier.
https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/69719
"You may want to find allies first, though—the Night Market is challenging content and best handled with others. You’re not required to group, but seeking help in some form would be wise."
https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/69765
"Note that many of the event zone’s challenges were designed for groups in mind, so be prepared for a tough fight if you’re venturing into the zone solo."
This is exactly true. There is no lie there. You may want to find a group to make it easier but you most certainly can solo it. Many people are. Many people are doing the quests and stuff solo, even bosses. So there was no misleading. Could they have been more clear? More in your face? I think a business can never be too clear. But the challenges were designed for groups, be prepared for a tough fight if venturing into the zone solo. Pretty much sums it up, no?
Re: Why isn't there a normal Night Market mode?
I agree you don’t need to conform, but it seems a bit demanding to expect the world (or the game) to conform to you.
Howevver, I do think it is good for the playerbase as a whole to get out of their comfort zone. It will help the game grow. But individuals are more than welcome to carry on their own business. More power to you.
Howevver, I do think it is good for the playerbase as a whole to get out of their comfort zone. It will help the game grow. But individuals are more than welcome to carry on their own business. More power to you.
Re: Why isn't there a normal Night Market mode?
SilverBride wrote: »It would not encourage players to get out of their comfort zone and face new challenges.
I am going to focus on this one part of your post because it really bothers me every time I have seen it given as a reason as to why the average player can't have comparable content they enjoy, too.
WHY do players need to be encouraged to be anything other than who they are? WHY do they have to strive to want what others want? WHY can't they enjoy their comfort zone? WHY can't they face new challenges in a less intense manner? WHY do they need to conform to what others like? And WHY do they need to like it, too?
Without getting into my personal life I will say that I worked many years in a very intense and challenging career and when I come here I come to relax and have fun, and not add more stress to myself.
They can continue to play how they like and be who they are....in the rest of the game. Not every piece of content is going to be for everyone. Especially if they have very specific and personal reasons for not wanting to do something that content can't possibly be designed around.
I'm still confused as to your investment in this, as you stated you can complete trials and also I believe stated you will not even be trying to participate in grouping in Night Market. Seems to be a lot of posts without even really experiencing it for yourself, and you have a lot of "casuals" telling you - who did take the time to personally experience NM - it's very accessible when joined with others.