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Re: Official Night Market Feedback Thread
I love the werewolf potions in the Sorrow’s Friend zone. I was able to kill 75 enemies solo. This is a great approach to making the zone more playable for solo players. Don’t nerf the mobs, just give limited buffs to the player that allow them to do everything but kill bosses.
Re: Night Market is a ticket to frustration and lack of basic respect to usual players
I'm usually a solo player and was skeptical of this content, but I gave it a try - just typed in zone chat to join a group and it was fun. Really energizing and a breath of fresh air with the difficulty over 1-shotting bosses for story quests. I supposes the part of me that enjoys more challenging cooperative gameplay in MMOs is not entirely behind me, especially on a healer.
I don't know how long this will keep people's interest but I'm going to try again this weekend.
If you aren't even willing to press "x" in zone chat to join a party and follow teams around, I don't really know what to say. Our group was inviting anyone who wanted to join.
I don't know how long this will keep people's interest but I'm going to try again this weekend.
If you aren't even willing to press "x" in zone chat to join a party and follow teams around, I don't really know what to say. Our group was inviting anyone who wanted to join.
Re: U50 Feedback Thread for Combat Refresh: Werewolf
but it turns out we were just using "bad" builds - if you can call dealing 8k DPS with 40k HP a "bad" build. Absolutely insane how disgustingly strong WW is, even post nerfs.
Please @React 😅, I didn’t make them add all of the health scaling. Not everything is a duel and not everything I suggested is a straight increase to any particular thing or outside of reason.
I agree the health scaling in PvP is rather atrocious and the fact that I am incentivized to do that instead of benefit from mild damage increases by stacking tri-stat that I already do now isn’t my cup of tea either. If anything they could make these heals scale exclusively off max stat+wep/spell while ‘under battle spirit’ and have ‘Hircine’s fortitude’ just be the one that scales with more wep/spell for less damage than the other if they wanted to resolve this particular problem in PvP.
Additionally while I agree 100k ST damage is a woeful number in terms of competitive DPS, it is certainly toxic to be doing so with 50k health. I think an adjust of the PvE values of the weapon and spell damage passive (woo- 40% unique wep/spell steroid) would be an appropriate stop gap to work on bringing that back down to easily sub 100k ST for a build like that while they do R and D on how to better separate max health from the werewolf kit as a whole (except for tanking).
Keep in mind, we werewolf players aren’t trying to play werewolf so we can meta hop or have it nerfed because we don’t want to move to the new meta that offers less customization- we need it to be a noticeable improvement of live and aside from health-based, HPS-while-attacking/ cheesing procs,etc. using the generic damage buffs, nothing I demonstrated truly is.
Hekk, above I provided a layout for returning to the majority of the values on live and keeping the animations. Everyone deserves better here after all.
Its not unreasonable to extrapolate general power levels in other PVP contexts from 1v1 examples. The refrain of "not everything is a duel" is getting somewhat tiring and and less persuasive every time its repeated. I also do not think it necessarily helps your case. If WW is being able to output 10K dps with 50K health in a 1v1 context, imagine what three or four of them together will do in a BG or in Cyrodiil. Far from an instance where the problem might be unique to dueling, I think duels might understate the potential gameplay implications unless other people have compelling reasons as to why it might not.
Re: Night Market is a ticket to frustration and lack of basic respect to usual players
CameraBeardThePirate wrote: »SilverBride wrote: »99 percent of content in this game is catered to you. Get a grip.
Add up every dungeon, trial, and arena, and all the World Bosses from the past few years with their multiple immune phases, and Public Dungeon Bosses with the same, and Harrowstorms, and Vents, and Dragons, and West Weald World Events... none of which are catered to the casual solo player... and see who has more content catered to them.
I can guarantee you there are far more hours of questing content in ESO than dungeons/trials/group content.
There's probably more hours of BASE GAME quest content than all the group content released to date.
This isn't about hours of content. It's about the difficulty of the content that a lot of players simply can't do.
And EVERY player can do the base game quests and story content. But every player CAN'T do these other things I mentioned.
Re: 'While Battle Spirit is active' is becoming too common
What i like about PvP in ESO is that it uses all its aspects of being an MMO to play PvP. I like having to do dungeons for potential PvP gear, even trials have good gear if you strive to do that. Overworld, crafting, arenas, etc.
I'm utilizing the full package of the MMO to engage in the PvP.
Now, if they start to stray from that, that is when i will be upset. This is why I dont like vengeance. Why play an MMO with preset gear and skills? Might as well just play a non-mmo game that will do it much better like overwatch, league of legends etc.
I dont care about the battle spirit balancing at all.
I'm utilizing the full package of the MMO to engage in the PvP.
Now, if they start to stray from that, that is when i will be upset. This is why I dont like vengeance. Why play an MMO with preset gear and skills? Might as well just play a non-mmo game that will do it much better like overwatch, league of legends etc.
I dont care about the battle spirit balancing at all.
Re: Why not have difficulty levels for night market too, so we can all enjoy our game ?
Displaced_Salad wrote: »
I never ever said to take it away...i said why not make it like overlands where there will be different levels of difficulty. You can go spend all your time killing endless adds/mobs on hard mode no problem but let us that dont want the hardmode type content to not be excluded.
If you enjoy it im happy for you
THIS. I am quite frequently seeing the knee jerk reaction of anger and borderline disgust when a player asks to ADD content. Not change it. Not take it away. Why is it only okay to ask for whatever passes for "more difficult" at ZOS? I really don't have a horse in this particular race, but it appears to be quite the widespread attitude.
Adding difficulty modes to Night Market would make all the instances less populated. Instances being empty is already touted as a problem.
Re: U50 Feedback Thread for Combat Refresh: Werewolf
Still trying to figure out why mechanical complexity of a two bar build matters to anyone. Why should anyone care how hard or easy it is to do something? Maybe take pride in knowing that you did well with a more complex rotation. I know I take pride in performing well with the live werewolf against strong players. Seems like anyone else could do the same.
Re: Official Night Market Feedback Thread
I just want to give my two cents.. I do not like drama... I already bought 1 year ESO+ in january. I knew first and second seasons will be all about group content which I have no interest in and never ever will take part in it as I like MMOs as long as I can participate in solo content.
I don't mind if content like "night market" releases, as I think that not everything in an MMO should suit my tastes, but.. I started playing in 2014, I left the game first time around when Craglorn released. Hard content, group content and the best crafting research was only achievable by hardcore group players. I really like crafting, my 70% play time is all about crafting and "gating research behind group content" was wrong move, so I left. ZOS is a company and lost "A" customer, but I am sure I was not the only one.
Now... Obviously they do not learn and released a hardcore content with a Golden Pursuit bind to it... And like a joke they added some crafting quests binding to GP like they can lure everyone to their precious group content. Do not try to parent me, do not try to encourage me to play with groups, we most are adults, as the game 18+, can have our own decisions to play solo or group. There are enough hardcore trials and many other things for group players, you do not need to add more, discriminate and isolate solo players from achievments, rewards or what ever rewards are.
I will say this one last time, "we pay the same amount of money as the group players". I don't care if they are more social than me or younger and have better reflexes, we pay same and everyone who plays this game should have access to everything one way or another...
I stopped playing as soon as I saw GP, I am not going to log on till update 50 to see if there is something for me, if not... It is not my lost, but please do not *** lie to us and put a community manager, a little older in age, or something who says "I like to play solo" as you did in one of your streams.
And one last note, do not ever dare to make cross play, at least do not ever mix PC and console players. These two are different generations and will make more harm than good.
Peace everyone, I am out... Happy gaming to all...
I don't mind if content like "night market" releases, as I think that not everything in an MMO should suit my tastes, but.. I started playing in 2014, I left the game first time around when Craglorn released. Hard content, group content and the best crafting research was only achievable by hardcore group players. I really like crafting, my 70% play time is all about crafting and "gating research behind group content" was wrong move, so I left. ZOS is a company and lost "A" customer, but I am sure I was not the only one.
Now... Obviously they do not learn and released a hardcore content with a Golden Pursuit bind to it... And like a joke they added some crafting quests binding to GP like they can lure everyone to their precious group content. Do not try to parent me, do not try to encourage me to play with groups, we most are adults, as the game 18+, can have our own decisions to play solo or group. There are enough hardcore trials and many other things for group players, you do not need to add more, discriminate and isolate solo players from achievments, rewards or what ever rewards are.
I will say this one last time, "we pay the same amount of money as the group players". I don't care if they are more social than me or younger and have better reflexes, we pay same and everyone who plays this game should have access to everything one way or another...
I stopped playing as soon as I saw GP, I am not going to log on till update 50 to see if there is something for me, if not... It is not my lost, but please do not *** lie to us and put a community manager, a little older in age, or something who says "I like to play solo" as you did in one of your streams.
And one last note, do not ever dare to make cross play, at least do not ever mix PC and console players. These two are different generations and will make more harm than good.
Peace everyone, I am out... Happy gaming to all...
Thalmar
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Re: Please re-balance Serpent's Disdain next
What about pyrebrand? Rele was trashed out of PvP, and pyrebrand is fine? Savage WW is also fine? All these sets are basically the same thing.
Why disable 1 set, while keep others like pyre, savage WW and seprents disdain?
Where is the logic?
Why disable 1 set, while keep others like pyre, savage WW and seprents disdain?
Where is the logic?
Re: Why not have difficulty levels for night market too, so we can all enjoy our game ?
This can be done with a pug. Depending on the quality of the pug, the skirmishes can be very difficult to impossible. Bring a friend that’s a good tank. Not some cheese doodle with a staff and a taunt they slapped on five minutes ago, a real tank.
Malprave
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