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Re: Rele gone from pvp
And Aerie's Cry particularly could be looked at. It hits for around 4k every few seconds, so similarly to the best burst proc sets around, but automatically, every few seconds, through walls, through everything. It now even stacks. And this is leaving aside the 10% damage bonus it passively grants.
Haha, can we maybe leave the class sets be for a bit in PvP? I like to glow on my werewolf and have something meaningful of my class. These are pain in the rear to farm and are locked out almost exclusively by dedication (most PvPers aren't going through this effort, in other words). No that doesn't mean it should be OP...
but it's a slightly-lower-scaling unfathomable darkness (unfathomable darkness is a slightly bigger tooltip not counting one of the 2, 3, 4 being crit on that set and this set is clearly, heavily inspired by it)... it just so happens to give more damage when you're specced as a warden and can run Aerie's (but like- unfathomable itself is a pretty dog proc set that can and should be brought up in value or changed like MANY other sets in this game currently).
On a side note, this is exactly what I feared with the 'on monsters' effect. First werewolf berserker bleed just ravished from live and now every proc set in existence sourced from PvE needs to be obliterated into the shadow realm for PvP (would take like a damage value nerf 'on players' but like... the WHOLE set???). I mean, sure Rush of Agony is toxic, nonsense trash b/c burst damage+no-CC-pull so get rid of it... but like a set that's a pain to farm+ unique to a class+ ~1k dps on the proc itself+ purgeable... we have to turn that OFF in PvP?
Wuuffyy
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Re: AI Written Posts
spartaxoxo wrote: »That's not a translation tool. It can give you a vocabulary word but it cannot tell you how to use it properly or interpret your entire sentence. Translation involves grammar too.
It's a tool used for translation by many people around the world for about 180 years (until internet access became mainstream). Last time I looked into one it had a big grammar section at the back of the book (not sure if all editions; I've only used a Webster's a few times, more common in my country are the Oxford English Dictionary or the English dictionary by Langenscheidt, which all include grammar - the big books, at least, not the pocket dictionaries for travel).
Glad that's not the case in your country but in mine you need a lot more than a dictionary. Dictionary will tell you the meaning of a word but actual translation requires more than just that. It's not a complete tool. And I know many people don't have access to such things because people have needed the help of translators because dictionaries were inadequate for their translations needs for much longer than the Internet existed.
And these people play ESO (which is rather text-heavy and only available in a few languages) and absolutely need to discuss the game in these forums?
Yes, they do. This game is voice acted in multiple languages.
Re: AI Written Posts
That's not a translation tool. It can give you a vocabulary word but it cannot tell you how to use it properly or interpret your entire sentence. Translation involves grammar too.
ETA
There's a reason that translation is one of the earliest things we did with internet tools. It takes years of study to be able to communicate effectively in a foreign language but the person who is using them may not have had that opportunity before a real need arises. In the past that's where friends, family, or hiring someone came in. And people still do that. But we also have freely available online tools to assist because that's not always available or even welcome.
Re: AI Written Posts
SerafinaWaterstar wrote: »
Google Translate is one of the most accessible and well known of those and it now uses their AI, Gemini to help it. Bing is the same. So which free widely known translation tool do you expect people to use? Do you expect a Microsoft owned company to ban the use of Microsoft's translator?
I don't think we can or even should expect people not to use the biggest translation tools for the public to help them post in a language that isn't their own.
Re: Did not receive ESO Plus benefits
I went and did this as well, thank you @BurntCookie1477 , you're a champion of Tamriel. Sure, it might break next time my subscription rolls over, but if it's not fixed in a year, then I'll deal with that then.
The game is just too cumbersome to play for my style of play, without ESO+. With it being over a week without hearing anything more, I took my chances and it worked and I have my ESO+ back.
I also agree there there needs to be further compensation from ZOS about this situation. Just having our subscriptions extended the amount of time we were without it really isn't enough. I lost time on crafting research, lost out on items due to lack of bag space, etc. Overall, it just made the game a bad experience for me during the missing benefits period.
I understand there's going to be issues when things change, like the introduction of seasons in this case, so I can forgive that the situation happened. A little more clarity and communication in the present and future regarding the issue would be a grand gesture to the community that pays for this game.
The game is just too cumbersome to play for my style of play, without ESO+. With it being over a week without hearing anything more, I took my chances and it worked and I have my ESO+ back.
I also agree there there needs to be further compensation from ZOS about this situation. Just having our subscriptions extended the amount of time we were without it really isn't enough. I lost time on crafting research, lost out on items due to lack of bag space, etc. Overall, it just made the game a bad experience for me during the missing benefits period.
I understand there's going to be issues when things change, like the introduction of seasons in this case, so I can forgive that the situation happened. A little more clarity and communication in the present and future regarding the issue would be a grand gesture to the community that pays for this game.
BurntCookie1477 wrote: »I’m not sure if this will help you, @TheWolfGrey , but I was returning here to share what worked for me and my friends to restore our ESO benefits.
Instead of going through the PlayStation Store, we accessed ESO+ directly in-game through the Crown Store banner. Before completing the purchase, it showed a renewal agreement that extended my existing subscription by a month. After confirming it and returning to the game, my benefits were restored immediately and I received my crowns.
In my case, I lost access because I purchased another subscription too early, while a friend of mine lost theirs due to an automatic renewal. This method worked for both of us, though it still feels like a bit of a gamble given how little information there is about the issue.
I haven’t heard back about my support ticket since it was escalated, but I did reply to it with this information and my proof of a second purchase since I did miss several days of benefits. I’m also not thrilled that I had to spend more money to fix the issue. However, I didn’t want to go into the Night Market event without my benefits, so you could say I was desperate.
Re: U50 Feedback Thread for Combat Refresh: Werewolf
dark_hunterxmg wrote: »Now we play as tank wolf or dot wolf only.
I'm still trying to see how this as a whole is better. I would rather keep my live Werewolf
Mediocre 1 second, 6 second, and no upfront damage execute ~dot wolf~ and same at this point. I was never looking to ‘cheese’ which is the only accusation thrown when I say ‘werewolf felt the same or worse for damage vs live’ (I’m not running dot procs and overtuned passives to exploit every facet of my game).
At this point- keep the claws (PvE) morph (throw it over current “healing” claws), keep the bite attack style, keep the visuals/ animations, “stealth” mechanic, keep the pounce/dot QoL ‘change up’ style, and the rage meter (just make a second bar or something under current timer bar for live). It seems like you all really like the ‘on monsters effect’ so simply double or triple our live weapon and spell damage buff ‘while battle spirit inactive’ for juiced-up PvE numbers.
Revert literally everything else if you aren’t willing to balance this one without a mallet. We’ll figure it out and take it from here while you go back to the drawing board.
On a side note- it seems like ‘Blood Hunger’ is turning out to be as woefully unimpactful as ‘Teriffied’ was as a werewolf specific buff, especially as you remove the few intrinsic interactions you placed in for both give/take.
Your long time werewolf players that have stuck through hekk and back with meta changes deserve better than this. Back when 10-20 forumgoers relentlessly provided suggestions for improvement to get us to where we are now.
Wuuffyy
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Re: U50 Feedback Thread for Combat Refresh: Werewolf
dark_hunterxmg wrote: »Maybe we can opt out of the U50 Werewolf and just keep using the one from live? I know I'll enjoy it more.
U50 Werewolf handles like a dump truck compared to the live Werewolf, which feels like a sports sedan. Regardless of how much damage it can output, it feels terrible to play.
Skills are delayed and can be easily canceled(not animation cancel, I mean not actually cast) by light attacks and bash. Roar is the biggest offender. The cast time needs to be removed. 0.3s might as well be a full second or longer. If roar has to be delayed, make the impact delayed rather than the cast.
Skills connect at the wrong time if they connect at all. When dueling, at the beginning of a duel, my opponent would be at a distance. I would immediately roll dodge at the start, but take damage from a pounce while they were still standing on the ground at a distance. Then the pounce animation would occur. I can also be attacking an opponent directly in front of me and do zero damage to them.
Heavy attack Werewolf for U50 is dead. It was killed when fast heavy attacks were removed from Roar. New heavy attacks take 2 business days to que.
Hircine's Fortitude heals for 33% less than live, Rip and Tear heal was reduced by nearly half, and Blood Claws is now only a 6 second dot because PvP or something. Hircine's Fortitude needs to be stronger and it needs a HoT and a cross heal.
Are we being serious with the 1 second bleed on Berserker light attacks?
Are we being serious with 10% weapon damage down from 18% on live? This may be okay if we get weapon passives, but we're still waiting.
There were only a small amount of things that I really expected to see for Werewolf with the update:
-Weapon passives
-HoT and/or cross heal for Hircine's Fortitude
-Reduced cost for skills(specifically the heal)
-Improvement in skill functionality:
* Roar range and instant fast heavy attack activation
*Pounce being single cast with Carnage activating on impact.
We got one of those things. Reduced cost for skills. The cost reduction for the heal came with a significant nerf to the healing value.
Comparing weapon damage passives from live and pts is kind of like comparing apples and oranges with ability bases being adjusted.
The only thing directly nerfed would be scaling of procs in pvp. But even then we should factor in major courage buff for a werewolf as well.
IMO U50 Werewolf has significant survival improvements, more damage, flexibility and build variation than it does on live.
It's a pretty apples to apples comparison. The way they "balance" things for werewolf is and has always been to make one thing a little "better" and then take away or nerf something that already existed. It ends up coming out the same or worse.
More survivable? They nerfed healing and heal scaling on the burst heal. Survival depends largely on constantly attacking a target. No target no heal. That burst heal will NOT carry you through.
They removed an entire playstyle (my playstyle) by taking away fast heavy attacks. Now we play as tank wolf or dot wolf only. No hard hitting skills, no heavy attacks(unless you are trying to die). Bash weaving is now nearly mandatory too. Never have I seen so many Werewolves bash weaving (except me) than I have since the first day of pts.
Werewolf builds into armor pen and weapon damage, humans build into Onslaught.
There were a few things unique to Werewolf.
-Larger stamina pool (gone)
-18% Weapon damage buff (nerfed)
-33% faster heavy attacks (gone)
-30% faster movement speed(questionable)
I'm still trying to see how this as a whole is better. I would rather keep my live Werewolf.
Re: AI Written Posts
spartaxoxo wrote: »That's not a translation tool. It can give you a vocabulary word but it cannot tell you how to use it properly or interpret your entire sentence. Translation involves grammar too.
It's a tool used for translation by many people around the world for about 180 years (until internet access became mainstream). Last time I looked into one it had a big grammar section at the back of the book (not sure if all editions; I've only used a Webster's a few times, more common in my country are the Oxford English Dictionary or the English dictionary by Langenscheidt, which all include grammar - the big books, at least, not the pocket dictionaries for travel).
spartaxoxo wrote: »There's a reason that translation is one of the earliest things we did with internet tools. It takes years of study to be able to communicate effectively in a foreign language but the person who is using them may not have had that opportunity before a real need arises.
And these people play ESO (which is rather text-heavy and only available in a few languages) and absolutely need to discuss the game in these forums?
Syldras
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Re: Spawn point killing in BGs
I strongly disagree. Almost every deathmatch bg is dragged out by the last 1 or 2 players standing up in their spawn afraid of dropping down. If they change something they should heavily reduce the timer you are allowed to be up in your spawn.
Re: You've nerfed the worst class in this PTS
@Urzigurumash 😂
@Prionyx On a serious note though NB is easily the second/third best pure class. It had one shot potential prior to class masteries, now it has even more crit damage.
They increased the NBs crit damage cap, now even on all impen you will be getting hit like you aren’t wearing any crit resistance
Is this a joke? Have you even read the post? You'd never reach NBs crit damage cap + NB doesn't have any burst or "one shot potential"|, stop complaining about NB if it's just a class you don't like and want it nerfed
You will get to the cap quite easily actually. NB was reaching 100% crit damage easily pre subclassing, reaching the new cap will be easy.
Ele sus 10% crit damage
Warden is getting 20% crit damage buff
Arcanist has 20% crit damage buff
Mora’s scribe thesis 12% etc
Monomyth 20%
Possible 18% crit damage buff from champion points
Minor force 10% crit damage
There are way more sources of crit damage I haven’t even included
You need 180%+ crit damage to reach crit cap in pvp atm, you'll never reach it unless you are doing this intentionally which doesn't make sense because other damage buffs would give you more, you'd never reach crit cap in a normal circumstances, please stop trying to get NB nerfed because you don't like the class
* Minor force - 10%
* Major force - 20%
* Hemorrhage - 10%
* 3x Medium Armor - 6%
* Fighting Finesse - 8%
* Khajiit - 12%
* Class Mastery - 5%
* Shadow Mundus 11-18%
* Backstabber 10%
* Ele sus 10% (players are always spamming it)
* Warden 20%
I am counting 129% + the base 50% = 179%
I didn’t even include sets here. Not to mention 1000 (2000 in PvE) more weapon and spell damage
I am not saying it should be nerfed. I’m just saying it doesn’t need further buffs. 2 tap play styles aren’t fair or fun especially from an ambush type class. But ZOS is buffing the playstyle and then comes people like you complaining that it’s not enough “buff it more ZOS” come on
* 3x Medium Armor - 6% ==> this is not class, this is armor
* Khajiit - 12% ==> This is not class, this is race
* Shadow Mundus 11-18% ==> this is not class, this is bonus mundus stone
* Elemental Susceptibility 10% ==> isn't this a skill for the Destruction Staff (magic)
* Backstabber 10% ==> Not part of the NB class, it is a champion point perk as I recall it So is Fighting Finesse - 8%
* Class Mastery - 5% & Warden 20% ==> It is my understanding that one cannot have subclass with class mastery
Seems there are a lot of non NB counts on the list. What do you get if you go pure NB. No subclass, no CP, no armor or outside bonuses?
It doesn't matter anyway, you'd need 195% crit damage to reach cap in pvp. Don't bother, this guy just wants NB dead because he doesn't like this class. I kept asking him how could NB burst someone and he just kept changing the subject. In the end I asked to make a simulation, said "what skills will you press to burst me"? and he just stopped replying since he clrealy got nothing to say and is obviously wrong
NB was the first class I played back when the game first went live. Half of my characters use NB still. One uses pure NB. I do not see NB doing well in dungeons, boss fights, or even some guests fights. NB does not have a naturally strong attack and it really lacks defense. I have made it work through the years because I have a set of skills that allow me to. But it has been nerffed over and over again because of PvP complaints. I get very frustrated with having to see my preferred class get rolled because PvP players cannot or will not develop their own adaptable skill set under their own choice of class. If players stopped copying other players and just did what worked for them, we would not be seeing these PvP player-demanded power creeps
I do not understand why other players buy into someone else's gear set up and demand nerfs for ever other class because they cannot change what they copied.
Not nice sounding but this is how I see these arguments.
shadoza
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