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Re: Night Market Opinion Poll
It's way overtuned. There is no guarantee a 12 person group can achieve any of the objectives. Unless you luck out and have several groups in the same instance doing the same thing, skirmishes are just going to fail. Especially when you get the wondering bosses popping by.
And the oddities, aside from the spider one, are next to impossible. Particularly the boulders. There are just too many going at the same time and you don't get to see the whole course that you need to steer through, what with them having to go round corners.
It's just an exercise in frustration.
And the oddities, aside from the spider one, are next to impossible. Particularly the boulders. There are just too many going at the same time and you don't get to see the whole course that you need to steer through, what with them having to go round corners.
It's just an exercise in frustration.
Czeri
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Re: Official Night Market Feedback Thread
One issue with how grouping for NM is managed is this:
NM works best when in an organized group; it is intentionally designed for you to have tanks and healers in your group.
ESO population, aside those who frequently participate in Trials, tend to avoid grouping preferring to just "tag along".
So, when people suggests them "jump in a random group through group finder", they'll do it but... When there are 2 millions DDs and 4 healers, you are destined to have a problem - there may be 12 random/solo DDs and they'll wipe again and again, because the content isn't designed to be approached like that.
It's a very specific design that rewards organized groups, or at least ones that fill every role.
ESO players, the majority, not 100% obviously, are not used to this and find the experience frustrating.
This (paired with the empty instances) is probably the core reason why many leave NM and never return.
NM works best when in an organized group; it is intentionally designed for you to have tanks and healers in your group.
ESO population, aside those who frequently participate in Trials, tend to avoid grouping preferring to just "tag along".
So, when people suggests them "jump in a random group through group finder", they'll do it but... When there are 2 millions DDs and 4 healers, you are destined to have a problem - there may be 12 random/solo DDs and they'll wipe again and again, because the content isn't designed to be approached like that.
It's a very specific design that rewards organized groups, or at least ones that fill every role.
ESO players, the majority, not 100% obviously, are not used to this and find the experience frustrating.
This (paired with the empty instances) is probably the core reason why many leave NM and never return.
Re: Official Night Market Feedback Thread
I was excited for Night Market, but what a disappointment it turned out to be.
Solo play is pretty much impossible. Adhoc small groups are pretty much non-existent and even if you find one the difficulty level is too high for uncoordinated small adhoc groups.
For those of us that are more casual players, or who have difficulty scheduling time to play with groups, Night Market offers nothing.
Solo play is pretty much impossible. Adhoc small groups are pretty much non-existent and even if you find one the difficulty level is too high for uncoordinated small adhoc groups.
For those of us that are more casual players, or who have difficulty scheduling time to play with groups, Night Market offers nothing.
karmaharma
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Re: Empty Night Markets
Let me get this straight, the [snip] market is basically trash, most players either hate it or don’t even bother with it, and you we’re expecting it to be full? Why, exactly? Because a handful of people enjoy it? Well… congratulations, you’ve got them inside. Oh wait, a few might be offline. Don’t worry, just hang around. They’ll be back eventually… And if you’re outside the Thousand Eyes zone… well, just go solo! ZOS designed it for groups, but hey, solo players should be able to… manage, right? Go on, try it solo... after all, the [snip] market is so unbelievably fun, right?
It is full. It just doesn’t look like it. Twice now I’ve been in groups that have filled within minutes from putting up a group finder listing. Literally people coming out of the woodworks, joining every second.
Soarora
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[SUGGESTION] Separate Destruction Staves
I feel that squishing all three Destruction Staves into a single skill line limits a lot of the build fantasy that you can achieve, so here is my suggestion:
Turn the current Destruction Staff skill line into a World skill line labeled as "Destruction Magick", that way we can keep the skills around that don't have a place in the staves, and it would keep tthe debuffs relevant. Move the Destruction Staves into Flame Staff, Lightning (or Shock) Staff, and Frost Staff.
You could then take the passives from the Destruction Magick line and have them be passive for these skill lines, and then focus these staves into different styles of build. Flame could be a DoT build, or a Healing build (cauterizing wounds, warmth, etc.), Lightning could be AoE or Buff (speeding up allies, granting buffs), and Frost could obviously be a Direct Damage or Tanking set.
Separating them like this would help to distinguish their abilities, while also keeping the older skills around to provide their current functionality. I don't have many ideas for what the skills they have could be, but the general theme of them works out really well.
Turn the current Destruction Staff skill line into a World skill line labeled as "Destruction Magick", that way we can keep the skills around that don't have a place in the staves, and it would keep tthe debuffs relevant. Move the Destruction Staves into Flame Staff, Lightning (or Shock) Staff, and Frost Staff.
You could then take the passives from the Destruction Magick line and have them be passive for these skill lines, and then focus these staves into different styles of build. Flame could be a DoT build, or a Healing build (cauterizing wounds, warmth, etc.), Lightning could be AoE or Buff (speeding up allies, granting buffs), and Frost could obviously be a Direct Damage or Tanking set.
Separating them like this would help to distinguish their abilities, while also keeping the older skills around to provide their current functionality. I don't have many ideas for what the skills they have could be, but the general theme of them works out really well.
Kalthea
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Re: Official Night Market Feedback Thread
The fact you need raids for the outside content. But the 3rd tier bosses only 4 man is very strange.
Re: Empty Night Markets
use gf, create your own groups; hopefully this event will teach people to use gf more and make schizoid playstyle bit less popular
Re: Empty Night Markets
I'm not in any guild, so organized groups are out of the question for me. So far, I've been able to find PUGs in GF for all my needs on PCNA. Granted, it's only have been a few days, and may be it will become worse with time. But I think the need to farm keys will make people form groups there for at least some time.
It's true that without GF finding other players in districts is really hard. So, I recommend using it at least on PCNA.
It's true that without GF finding other players in districts is really hard. So, I recommend using it at least on PCNA.
Re: Official Night Market Feedback Thread
One complaint I have is how painfully slow gaining favor is. Why does killing hundreds of mobs get you maybe 5 favor if one drops and you can reach it in time? And why do reward boxes not grant favor as well? Giving people overland gear they got ten years ago isn't going to encourage people to keep playing this, ZOS. I don't yearn for Briarheart. I feel like a minimum of 10 favor in these boxes would be payment for taking the time to deconstruct these "rewards"
Apollosipod
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Re: Night Market Opinion Poll
I went as far as getting the house and then dipped out.
There's nothing there I neither need nor want.
There's nothing there I neither need nor want.