The more icons the better. Those werewolf icons are great.

Every time a good thing happens for PvE, the PvP crowd goes into meltdown mode.
They rage.
They complain.
They threaten to quit, call it the end of ESO.
And then, they adapt.

All I wish for is a little less noise.

Zodiarkslayer wrote: »

Every time a good thing happens for PvE, the PvP crowd goes into meltdown mode.
They rage.
They complain.
They threaten to quit, call it the end of ESO.
And then, they adapt.

All I wish for is a little less noise.

Where is the "good thing that happened for PvE"?

Unless you consider class and skill balance being calibrated around the assumption that everyone runs this mythic a good thing. I don't, because it is a shaky foundation and leaves everyone not running the mythic in the dust, whether it's in PvP or PvE.


I have already adapted by running this mythic on multiple builds, but this doesn't mean it's fun or good for the game... so you'll have to listen to this "noise" until the problem is solved. Sorry.

Right now what pushed me out is that the necromancer class is destroyed, and that to solo with that class right now is just too hard due to all the damage and sustain nerfs we have had.

Unfortunately ZOS decided to refresh necromancer last so I am being pushed away because of it. And before people tells me to play another class, I will tell them no, and that I prefer to leave the game than witnessing other classes getting stronger while mine is destroyed.

Necro has their gameplay, class identity and competitiveness destroyed, and therefore the game is getting unplayable for me. Compare soloing the night market with DK or other classes. Necro is far bellow.

Necromancer needs to be refreshed this year, not winter 2027!

Parasaurolophus wrote: »

Where did you get the idea that the majority wants a reduction in difficulty? Do you have any statistics?

How about you count number of people who posted positive feedback vs negative just in this thread. You will get both the idea and the stats.

CameraBeardThePirate wrote: »

Major_Mangle wrote: »

YandereGirlfriend wrote: »

I've been calling to nerf Ele Sus for years but folk always come out of the woodwork to proclaim that it is somehow balanced, heh.

Folk really will make any argument, no matter how ridiculous, to keep their overpowered toys.

The underlying issue is that status effects deal way too much damage, with 0 drawbacks
Status effect damage has been overperforming for years. You can find overtuned status effect pressure builds as far back as Morrowind patch. Status effects should get a major overhaul and be more about unique debuffs rather than being free damage procs.

P.S
To add to someone earlier in the thread saying they'd use Esoteric to deal with the status effect damage.....since status effects are considered as "procs", and won't proc other procs, Esoteric ain't gonna mitigate the damage from status effects

That's not how that works lol. Esoteric works with any direct damage, proc sets and status effects included.

Proc sets have always procced "take damage" effects. They just can't proc anything else on the user's side.

Think of procs as pets; they count as their own entity. A user's own proc effect cannot proc another proc set that the user is wearing because the proc effect is not "wearing" the proc set.

However, on the target side, it doesn't matter what the source is. A set that procs upon taking damage doesn't care what the source of said damage is, because the target is wearing the set and any damage the target takes will proc the effect.

Either ZOS changed/fixed that or I´ve been misinformed then. I mainly base that on what people found out when Esoteric was first added to the game on PTS (I know it had some strange interactions with taking damage while having a shield active etc).

We are going to have to suffer at least till u51 with this, and even that isn't sure yet. Until then we are stuck in the worst meta in the games history.

PvP is gonna suffer a lot.

Major_Mangle wrote: »

YandereGirlfriend wrote: »

I've been calling to nerf Ele Sus for years but folk always come out of the woodwork to proclaim that it is somehow balanced, heh.

Folk really will make any argument, no matter how ridiculous, to keep their overpowered toys.

The underlying issue is that status effects deal way too much damage, with 0 drawbacks
Status effect damage has been overperforming for years. You can find overtuned status effect pressure builds as far back as Morrowind patch. Status effects should get a major overhaul and be more about unique debuffs rather than being free damage procs.

P.S
To add to someone earlier in the thread saying they'd use Esoteric to deal with the status effect damage.....since status effects are considered as "procs", and won't proc other procs, Esoteric ain't gonna mitigate the damage from status effects

That's not how that works lol. Esoteric works with any direct damage, proc sets and status effects included.

Proc sets have always procced "take damage" effects. They just can't proc anything else on the user's side.

Think of procs as pets; they count as their own entity. A user's own proc effect cannot proc another proc set that the user is wearing because the proc effect is not "wearing" the proc set.

However, on the target side, it doesn't matter what the source is. A set that procs upon taking damage doesn't care what the source of said damage is, because the target is wearing the set and any damage the target takes will proc the effect.