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Re: U50 Feedback Thread for Class Mastery
ItsNotLiving wrote: »Templar is underwhelming across the board. The support passives, in particular, simply do not compete with stuff like major force. The damage passives will not convince people to trade beams/ whips for jabs. Hopefully, we see some changes in PTS week 5, but I doubt it.
They need to move the Templar refresh ahead of sorcerer since sorc is already in a a good spot.
How about no.
If Necromancers can wait their turn then so can Templars.
Re: U50 Feedback Thread for Class Mastery
Static Reverberation
This passive was a huge problem for pvp week 1. It was in a fine state after getting adjusted to 0.5 seconds. Its now back to being too powerful with 0.3 seconds cool down and being buffed to base 5% proc rate.
Part of the problem comes from sorc being too good at being able to proc it. 5% proc base doesnt sound like much but consider that a regular status effect build can deal up to 10 instances of seperate damage per second. For example
1-Vateshran destro proc
2-Burning status effect from vateshran
3-Light attack
4-Concussion from thread of war
5-Crushing shock (frost)
6-Crushing shock (fire)
7-Crushing shock (shock)
8-Chill from crushing shock
9-Burning from crushing shock
10- Concussion from crushing shock
11-Hurricane
10+ instances of seperate damage in a single second with a 5% base proc chance at full hp, skyrocketing to a certainty at lower health thresholds. This isnt just limited to this specific scenario either, bound armamant is 4 instance of seperate damage by itself and is by itself a burst damage and the burst damage having near certainty to proc additional damage turns it from a burst to an easy execute. In fact it turns basically everything in sorcs arsenal to an execute extremely easily.
Malevolent Promise was excluded from pvp for being too war crimey, well, this passive is the actual war crime. Please consider adding a once per second clause to it with battle spirit active. Proccing an extra instance of damage every second easily makes it one of the best pure class passives in the game, simply makes it less toxic by preventing it from being oppressive in pvp.
This passive was a huge problem for pvp week 1. It was in a fine state after getting adjusted to 0.5 seconds. Its now back to being too powerful with 0.3 seconds cool down and being buffed to base 5% proc rate.
Part of the problem comes from sorc being too good at being able to proc it. 5% proc base doesnt sound like much but consider that a regular status effect build can deal up to 10 instances of seperate damage per second. For example
1-Vateshran destro proc
2-Burning status effect from vateshran
3-Light attack
4-Concussion from thread of war
5-Crushing shock (frost)
6-Crushing shock (fire)
7-Crushing shock (shock)
8-Chill from crushing shock
9-Burning from crushing shock
10- Concussion from crushing shock
11-Hurricane
10+ instances of seperate damage in a single second with a 5% base proc chance at full hp, skyrocketing to a certainty at lower health thresholds. This isnt just limited to this specific scenario either, bound armamant is 4 instance of seperate damage by itself and is by itself a burst damage and the burst damage having near certainty to proc additional damage turns it from a burst to an easy execute. In fact it turns basically everything in sorcs arsenal to an execute extremely easily.
Malevolent Promise was excluded from pvp for being too war crimey, well, this passive is the actual war crime. Please consider adding a once per second clause to it with battle spirit active. Proccing an extra instance of damage every second easily makes it one of the best pure class passives in the game, simply makes it less toxic by preventing it from being oppressive in pvp.
acanca
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Re: Why is everyone so adverse to grouping for NM?
The people complaining about NM is the vocal minority, you can tell by how fast groups fill, if I post on Group Finder for any activity in NM I get 12 players in seconds, I've been playing this game for years and never seen an event promote this level of cooperation before, definitely nothing close to this level.barney2525 wrote: »SilverBride wrote: »OccultNerd wrote: »I've seen people asking for a solo or easier version of NM, why? Especially after the majority of players wanted harder content!
The majority do not want harder content. It was a the same handful of players in the pinned overland thread asking for more difficulty. That is far from the majority of players.
Agreed. It is a Vocal Minority. And you can sometimes spot them as they run past every Overland mob at warp speed.
Of course if you base population by forums alone (which has a higher influx of players who are only here to complain for the sake of complaining) you will get the illusion that you're the majority, but while you're all fighting over not being able to solo group activities, the server is actually playing the event and having fun.
By the way, NM is easier than a normal trial, they could have made this more challenging and it would still be ok.
A lot of those players are the same people on alts and alt accounts, so yes NM groups might be filling fast, but it's by the same people which greatly skews participation numbers.
And where do you get this data? How would you know how much of this activity is from different people or not? EIther way it doesn't change that we are seeing a great increase in activity, and those same alts and accounts exist at other times too.
You can see people's account names and people literally say they're farming with all their alts. People are even bragging about getting the skins this way.
Frayton
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Re: U50 Feedback Thread for New Item Sets
Shattered Paths Signet
This mythic still deals half damage when Feral Guardian pet is active.
We now know that Warden was not an outlier when it comes to using signet nor was it getting those numbers due to a broken interaction with the pet. In fact ww last week was parsing 201k, sorc 195k with signet.
The pet nerf also doesnt exist on live servers currently with signet released and the game is in a healthy state. No broken interactions, warden is not oppressive or even meta in pve or pvp with signet. Both warden and the game is in a healthy state on live servers currently.
Which is why i believe the pet nerf currently in pts should not go to live. Please consider reverting it
This mythic still deals half damage when Feral Guardian pet is active.
We now know that Warden was not an outlier when it comes to using signet nor was it getting those numbers due to a broken interaction with the pet. In fact ww last week was parsing 201k, sorc 195k with signet.
The pet nerf also doesnt exist on live servers currently with signet released and the game is in a healthy state. No broken interactions, warden is not oppressive or even meta in pve or pvp with signet. Both warden and the game is in a healthy state on live servers currently.
Which is why i believe the pet nerf currently in pts should not go to live. Please consider reverting it
acanca
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Re: Night Market has made Group Finder come alive
Having to relist after someone leaves is necessary too in case someone says just wait till you lose half etc. Really if you dont constantly update it creates a chain reaction and the whole group dies, so its required and pretty annoying if running a pug.
Small thing but one that would make leading a lot more desirable and make me less anxious when having to tank as well as maintain the 12 man.
Small thing but one that would make leading a lot more desirable and make me less anxious when having to tank as well as maintain the 12 man.
Re: Please re-balance Serpent's Disdain next
@Luneca Also I request you do not dance around definitions, skill and experience in this game can be defined clearly and my point by mentioning it is that I am not claiming the set is op because I beat some casual gamers with it
Trian94
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Re: Shattered Paths Signet Is Problematic
This is way stronger than it's ever been though.
But if this thing wasn't busted strong most PvPers wouldn't care about the Nightmarket. I'm looking forward to farming it.
But if this thing wasn't busted strong most PvPers wouldn't care about the Nightmarket. I'm looking forward to farming it.
Re: Please re-balance Serpent's Disdain next
Guys, be serious. Serpent disdain and shattered path signet is meta 1v1 build on every single class. Considering rele was disabled for pvp, serpent disdain should be same story. Trying to defend this set in pvp, is like saying that the grass is blue.
Re: Please re-balance Serpent's Disdain next
Clearly an overloaded set. It enables so many debuffs to be active at the same time that it works both as a pressure set with burning and poisoned and hemorrhage and as a burst set if you take into account vulnerability, brittle, sundered etc. (Plus chilled which is a 5% damage reduction to your opponent's outgoing damage). Definitely needs a change
I want to highlight my initial comment in this post in an attempt to make it clear for you. This is the set's synergy with elemental susceptibility and 2 abilities max. It is A LOT. Maybe you're not familiar with the numbers or the actual gameplay of it which is completely fine but this is a lot of stuff for a 5 piece set to extend to 20 seconds and leaving room for other stuff to be paired with it i.e Maarselok, force of nature (4620 unique penetration).
This set is for sure one of the things that need to be checked and reworked.
And as a reminder all status effects have a duration of like 4 seconds
Trian94
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Re: Please re-balance Serpent's Disdain next
How can you make all these claims if you don't use the set? Take your first sentence for example, it's entirely false since I've used the set in open world 1vX and it works wonders even against people who can purge.
The argument is that this set was never fine before any mythic or item set came out that compliments it.
I'll ignore the fallacy. Let's get into your own words:
So you killing someone with a set makes it OP? Please continue. While you're at it, explain how and why players you attacked with it and gave time to fight back failed to do so and why?
Explain why the roll button, LOS, etc. weren't a counter.
Also explain why they didn't just cc or otherwise fight back against you.
Lastly, explain how it's more oppressive with or without the set and explain how this set being nerfed or even "adjusted" w/e term we want to use, would alleviate anything in those situations.
I literally cannot see it.
I've already explained why the set is overpowered in this thread. They all tried everything you mentioned and it didn't matter both in 1vX situations and in some 1v1s vs experienced players as well. Because I can apply every status effect debuff and dot imagineable at the cost of one free skill and 1 skill that costs 2k stamina (blood for blood if vampire which costs health) all of which lasts for like 20 seconds and can be reapplied at zero cost. And imagine that my version of the serpent build wasn't the most powerful there is. I was also using pure sorc.
It was part of the most powerful builds since before subclassing.
If you dont get that then I there is no point discussing it with you
Find an argument that proves your point without mentioning "skill" or "experience." That kind of argument doesn't hold water because it's irrelevant. And it's irrelevant because who decides what is and what is not skill? Who decides what "experienced" means?
Again with vagueness. Also, even without that set I can apply every status effect in 2 moves too, and I even have it automated. So even a long that line of logic it's still an invalid argument because other sets still enable essentially the same thing.
A lot of people don't realize that ZOS actually has many sets that have different effects that essentially all do the same exact thing in the end, which is why it makes little sense to bother nerfing some of these sets if the core issue you have isn't actually the set but: "free damage", the fact that your builds can't purge, the fact that they don't have enough healing to counter the damage, etc.
That's the core of it. They can nerf the set, but I still want to know exactly what you guys find this set to be insane over v. all the other sets that exist and still enable the same or similar outcomes in the end.
And no one is providing an answer. Just vagueness and agreeing that the set should be nerfed because they said so.
That it makes all these status effects and debuffs stick to you for 20 seconds, simple as that
If you're not using the set and apply all these status effects assuming u have a status effect oriented build, best you're gonna do is tickle people
Trian94
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