PeacefulAnarchy wrote: »

coop500 wrote: »

noblecron wrote: »

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

noblecron wrote: »

If you chose ruckus you're instanced with other ruckus players and they have the least population

This is not accurate. Players are not given priority to be instanced with players of the same Faction. There may be fewer players in the Ruckus District right now because folks are prioritizing a different District, but that is not how instancing in the Night Market works. When players enter the main hub and Districts, they join based on when they entered until the zone cap is hit, then a new instance spins up. That's it.

Thank you. I mean no disrespect though but I think instancing numbers need to be double checked as I've been in a few very very dead instances.

The issue is the instance is spread across all 3 districts and the hub. So the game is probably just putting you in an instance where, statistically since Thousand Eyes is dominating right now, all the players in your instance are over there based on happenstance.

Each instance only has 30-something players, so it's not hard to find yourself in an empty one when you're playing a less popular faction.

Every player of every faction can go into every district, and if you want to do the achievements and unlock all the wings of the house, you have to go into all of them. So even if you're in a different faction you can still go wherever the people are.

Yes but if you're trying to do your faction quest and joined the Ruckus, welp I hope you can do it solo.

Looks like invisibility potions are going to be a hot commodity!

heimdall14_9 wrote: »

FlameDark wrote: »

heimdall14_9 wrote: »

this is how it should be if not you will get 100s of players that just run get 1 hit in and die while still getting awarded for laying dead on the floor after doing nothing

Yeah but right now if I could potentially lose the reward for dying trying to help, why would I help? Why wouldn't I just do a few hits, stand by a wall and just wait for the boss to die? Either or you're going to have people abuse the system, just right now you are punishing more people trying to help.

am with you on that , reason there should be a mid level of damage needed to get awarded for doing something. so that them that want to hit and run or them that hit and die both get nothing for doing nothing

I do agree with you on that. I think that is a perfectly reasonable middle ground. Where someone needs to do a certain amount of damage in order to get the reward. Which was my original frustration. As I was there fighting from the BEGINNING of the skirmish until the last 5%. But I didn't get anything despite helping as hard as I could for 95% of the fight. I just want people who may not be able to enter a group still get credit, considering their choice in not letting us use soul gems and how easy it is to die during the fights. Right now this is just encouraging people who are not able to get in a group to hug a wall when the boss is down to 25% or fear being left out of the rewards.

Also to add, I didnt even get the achievement for it? Unless that is a bug? Because even if I didnt get credit for the kill, I should have at least got the achievement for participating?

Lovely bug I just ran into. Was killed (who saw that coming?) and upon portaling back to the Plaza I was completely unable to leave. Couldn't port out, couldn't port to a home, couldn't even log out or quit the game. I was actually told "You cannot quit right now."

This entire feature is half-baked and awful. The 20 minutes I suffered through in there were more than enough for me. What a colossal failure.

FlameDark wrote: »

heimdall14_9 wrote: »

this is how it should be if not you will get 100s of players that just run get 1 hit in and die while still getting awarded for laying dead on the floor after doing nothing

Yeah but right now if I could potentially lose the reward for dying trying to help, why would I help? Why wouldn't I just do a few hits, stand by a wall and just wait for the boss to die? Either or you're going to have people abuse the system, just right now you are punishing more people trying to help.

am with you on that , reason there should be a mid level of damage needed to get awarded for doing something. so that them that want to hit and run or them that hit and die both get nothing for doing nothing

I want to say so much about this new Night Market… but if I do, it won’t be pretty.
But… I’ll try.

What is this?! How in the hell did someone think this belongs in ESO? Why?? Did you all just lose your minds???

EDIT:
This is NOT hardcore. In hardcore content, you should be able to complete it solo that’s the whole point of calling it “hardcore.”

This is nothing more than [snip][snip][snip]. This isn’t hardcore. This isn’t anything—it’s just crazy, and it shouldn’t have a place in ESO. Stop killing the game.

1) The re-spawn time is ridiculously too fast;

2) The difficulty level is too much overall; this is coming from someone who regularly does vet DLC HMs (not trials, granted). Most of my group did OK, but we're mostly-organized (not sweaty, but serious casuals). The random casual players that we picked up got absolutely wrecked and what little chatter I saw in zone chat was not positive. I think of the casual player by default (because we need them to keep the game going) and I'm totally dumbfounded at the difficulty that ZOS landed on after the PTS feedback (I suppose I really shouldn't be surprised);

3) Groups are being put in different instances;

4) The rewards are garbage: Mother's Sorrow, Plague Doctor, etc...really? I couldn't care less about a gold Mother's Sorrow Bow. Come on, ZOS. The occasional piece of trial gear is at least a little different - the casual players may not have much of that stuff, but overland gear? Giving "casual rewards" for Vet-Level content is insulting;

5) It's a bloody confusing mess overall: starting the dang thing, what quests can be shared and why or why not, the seemingly random quests (dailies?) that some group members are seeing and other not seeing, and even just placing--in my case--the Lamp to unlock one of the little closet rooms in the house was silly to figure out until I finally saw it in the in-game mail. The lack of information, as usual, is quite frustrating. The players will figure it out over the next few weeks, but by then the damage will be done and our opinions solidified (remember The Wall event);

6) The desire to have some friendly competition amongst the factions is understandable, but is also silly: it was pretty much immediately obvious who will win, as PC NA players jumped on "Team Teal" because...well, look at the ridiculous score.

I honestly feel bad for the casual players at work right now, impatient to get home and jump in the Market only to find that when they do, the hour or two they have to play is going to be frustrating, unnecessarily time consuming/confusing, and overly difficult.

After sleeping on it, perhaps I'll feel differently. For now though, Night Market leaves a less-than-pleasant taste.

It's fine in a group when you have it, which is not always going to be the case. I, of course, cannot solo those bosses, but I can do the trash packs solo. However, they are way too grindy and do not drop anything (same issue as in IA). In addition they are placed too close to each other, so kiting often engages the next group. Which means going to various objectives inside the district is too tedious (for me at least).