Best Of
Re: Night market is not a trial
Very loud people were crying for harder content. Well, here you go.
Frayton
6
Re: Skill-Based Combat is Back: Why the Night Market is the Ultimate "Mistake Check" for solo players
Tzirzhalir wrote: »heimdall14_9 wrote: »Tzirzhalir wrote: »So Night market is catered to 5% of players(uh, elitists-cough) while the 95% (normal folk)suffer. What an intriguing idea. I can see why the "seasons" era is nothing more than a cover for maintenance mode and in 5 years from now this game will be down the toilet and will no longer be around. It's not about getting good, it's about having an "event" that caters to all of the community.
in 10 years this the 1st event for VETERANS think on that number and for 10 of them players has been asking for harder overland and a VET LEVEL playground like old day crag was ..
Yes, 95% suffer and 95% will leave and say why am I doing this? To receive cheap rewards and get sucked into FOMO golden pursuits. Looking at this from a third person perspective ZOS are clearly in chaos and have bad leadership and are frantically trying to save a dying horse but during their twitch streams they seem so positive and happy... which is a lie. Everything is fake because they all know the truth, ESO is on it's last legs and ZOS will now hunt down and manipulate new players because they are blind to their ugly truths. You and I Sir Crowley are considered old players who have been around since 2015 and know how this organization operates. I, personally have been flogging this dead horse (ESO) and I have finally realized that it is time to walk away and focus on real life and ignore this blatant manipulation and extortion from this company. The greed tactics are obvious, ESO used to be a beautiful and a fun game where communities supported each other because we felt secure in a structured environment, it's now chaos, the same chaos of a dying system. "SEASONS" is just a word to say we are in maintenance mode and following from maintenance it will go into administration and will end. ESO's death is on every member leading and directing from ZOS, it's on them entirely. After 11 years, having capped CP, having many experiences good and bad in ESO I have unsubscribed and uninstalled. WE THE PEOPLE have the POWER to walk away and to realize we are not going to be "played" by this organization any longer. Without us - your player base - You ZOS will cease to be anything but the real identity of your real life personalities that being living under this motto - we actually despise our player base and go out of our way to be supremely toxic to them by creating content which makes them unhappy. Night Market is an embarrassment as was last years "Solstice" and it will continue going down until it's completely destroyed.
good point i myself hadn't been playing in over 6 weeks ( not even logging in ) due to ADD-ONS making the game to easy , there being nothing challenging and flat out being bored of the game , NM has no add-on support and is a challenge ive now put in 19 hrs in two days and plan to play the whole of the weekend only because the NM is here and fits what ive been wanting for over 10 years , ESO TO BE CHALLENGING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Re: Skill-Based Combat is Back: Why the Night Market is the Ultimate "Mistake Check" for solo players
Tzirzhalir wrote: »heimdall14_9 wrote: »Tzirzhalir wrote: »So Night market is catered to 5% of players(uh, elitists-cough) while the 95% (normal folk)suffer. What an intriguing idea. I can see why the "seasons" era is nothing more than a cover for maintenance mode and in 5 years from now this game will be down the toilet and will no longer be around. It's not about getting good, it's about having an "event" that caters to all of the community.
in 10 years this the 1st event for VETERANS think on that number and for 10 of them players has been asking for harder overland and a VET LEVEL playground like old day crag was ..
Yes, 95% suffer and 95% will leave and say why am I doing this? To receive cheap rewards and get sucked into FOMO golden pursuits. Looking at this from a third person perspective ZOS are clearly in chaos and have bad leadership and are frantically trying to save a dying horse but during their twitch streams they seem so positive and happy... which is a lie. Everything is fake because they all know the truth, ESO is on it's last legs and ZOS will now hunt down and manipulate new players because they are blind to their ugly truths. You and I Sir Crowley are considered old players who have been around since 2015 and know how this organization operates. I, personally have been flogging this dead horse (ESO) and I have finally realized that it is time to walk away and focus on real life and ignore this blatant manipulation and extortion from this company. The greed tactics are obvious, ESO used to be a beautiful and a fun game where communities supported each other because we felt secure in a structured environment, it's now chaos, the same chaos of a dying system. "SEASONS" is just a word to say we are in maintenance mode and following from maintenance it will go into administration and will end. ESO's death is on every member leading and directing from ZOS, it's on them entirely. After 11 years, having capped CP, having many experiences good and bad in ESO I have unsubscribed and uninstalled. WE THE PEOPLE have the POWER to walk away and to realize we are not going to be "played" by this organization any longer. Without us - your player base - You ZOS will cease to be anything but the real identity of your real life personalities that being living under this motto - we actually despise our player base and go out of our way to be supremely toxic to them by creating content which makes them unhappy. Night Market is an embarrassment as was last years "Solstice" and it will continue going down until it's completely destroyed.
It took you until the nightmarket to say this?
Malyore
1
Re: Night market is not a trial
Zero dungeons? We get three different ones. Why not combine them and release a proper new dungeon like ZoS always do?
We also have a new trial. Why not just release it for all players outside the [snip][snip] Market and treat it like every other trial? What’s the problem?
I don’t see anything fun in this system because it’s just:
farm bosses to get keys -> do dungeons to get more keys -> then go to the trial… That isn’t fun. Repeat! That isn’t normal. ESO has never been like this.
Questing is even worse. For the first time in ESO, I can’t properly quest alone. Why not? This is an Elder Scrolls game, why can’t I solo quest like always?
Yes, technically I can solo, but only if I skip everything, sneak through like a ghost, grab the quest, and leave. Where’s the fun in that? This isn’t ESO. It’s never been like this.
There’s absolutely nothing, truly nothing, that I enjoy about the [snip][snip] Market. And I’m not even talking about the difficulty itself, but the overall design and experience. There’s nothing fun here.
The only reason I’m playing it is to get my monster set shoulders so I never have to come back.
New trial? I’m not going back. I don’t want to redo this entire grind just to run one trial again.
I’m playing this [snip] Market, and I’m honestly hating the experience.
Is this really what ESO is going to become?
EDIT:
And I need 10000 favors (or is it 5000?) just to buy one box for the shoulders. And maybe I’ll end up getting everything except what I actually need. If that happens, I’ll have to go again, repeat this whole horrible experience, and once again go through this [snip] Market that I absolutely hate, like my life and everything around it, just because this entire experience is so frustrating.
I really understand some players love it. A lot of players love Dark Souls, and I have no problem with that. If you enjoy this nonsense, that’s fine… But what about the players who don’t?
We also have a new trial. Why not just release it for all players outside the [snip][snip] Market and treat it like every other trial? What’s the problem?
I don’t see anything fun in this system because it’s just:
farm bosses to get keys -> do dungeons to get more keys -> then go to the trial… That isn’t fun. Repeat! That isn’t normal. ESO has never been like this.
Questing is even worse. For the first time in ESO, I can’t properly quest alone. Why not? This is an Elder Scrolls game, why can’t I solo quest like always?
Yes, technically I can solo, but only if I skip everything, sneak through like a ghost, grab the quest, and leave. Where’s the fun in that? This isn’t ESO. It’s never been like this.
There’s absolutely nothing, truly nothing, that I enjoy about the [snip][snip] Market. And I’m not even talking about the difficulty itself, but the overall design and experience. There’s nothing fun here.
The only reason I’m playing it is to get my monster set shoulders so I never have to come back.
New trial? I’m not going back. I don’t want to redo this entire grind just to run one trial again.
I’m playing this [snip] Market, and I’m honestly hating the experience.
Is this really what ESO is going to become?
EDIT:
And I need 10000 favors (or is it 5000?) just to buy one box for the shoulders. And maybe I’ll end up getting everything except what I actually need. If that happens, I’ll have to go again, repeat this whole horrible experience, and once again go through this [snip] Market that I absolutely hate, like my life and everything around it, just because this entire experience is so frustrating.
I really understand some players love it. A lot of players love Dark Souls, and I have no problem with that. If you enjoy this nonsense, that’s fine… But what about the players who don’t?
Athory
9
Re: Update 50 PTS – Week 3 Summary
Inari Telvanni wrote: »I'm a little sad to see that the feedback I've been pushing about werewolf emotes has gone seemingly ignored or unseen...
The potential of werewolves having emotes again after all these years had me very excited.
Yeah I would have appreciated a reason for why they can't enable them at least instead of silence
Re: Night market is not a trial
The problem we see with "solo" content like this or arenas is that the typical PVE crowd following PVE guides always has trouble. Time and time again funny enough, the pvp players do very well in these forms of content. It kinda comes down to the fact that pvpers tend to learn all 3 roles of how to do damage, tank and heal themselves to survive. Yet most newer PvE players get stuck learning one concept.
But what level do you design the content for? In the past zos made basically all overland content a starter zone quality, delves and public dungeons would be midlevel to cp, dungeons would be up to midCP, trials up to maxcp. There have always been complaints and demand for more and more content from the main playerbase.
Its a tough choice, but you'd probably want to aim that maxcp can solo inefficiently, midcp can 4 man, lower cp and below zerg. To get a decent spread on your playerbase for a special event assuming newer lower level players would be questing or leveling.
This decision issue and content demand is why they are looking into difficulty options now.
But what level do you design the content for? In the past zos made basically all overland content a starter zone quality, delves and public dungeons would be midlevel to cp, dungeons would be up to midCP, trials up to maxcp. There have always been complaints and demand for more and more content from the main playerbase.
- lvl3 new account friendly? Even mid levels would get bored.
- for lvl30s? even cp160 players would get bored.
- cp160 content? any midcp players would get bored.
Its a tough choice, but you'd probably want to aim that maxcp can solo inefficiently, midcp can 4 man, lower cp and below zerg. To get a decent spread on your playerbase for a special event assuming newer lower level players would be questing or leveling.
This decision issue and content demand is why they are looking into difficulty options now.
Re: Necro class mastery passives are disappointing
Evidently none of us are convinced that it would actually be overpowered and even if it is that it couldn't be quickly remedied. Just a single PTS week with the option to use Malevolent Promise on enemy players would be enlightening.
Re: Night market is not a trial
And by the way… besides the monster set, what else justifies all this nonsense? All of this just for one monster set? My god…
Content for fun doesn't need any justification.
The fact you need one is actually about your attitude, not about the content.
Re: Crazy Market daily locations
I know I chuckled. Everyone has different tastes when it comes to humor, so I get you may not find what I do funny.
If you spent a few seconds typing into Google, "daily night market locations", you would find how useful it is. You may not like the answer, yet it is an answer.
Not looking for attention, I don't care if people see this or not. I have some free time so using it reply with the same smugness the original post had. Thanks for caring though!
Please ZOS merge all these threads.
[edited to remove quote]
Bguk
4
Re: Skill-Based Combat is Back: Why the Night Market is the Ultimate "Mistake Check" for solo players
I have gotten more entertainment from the forum in regards to the night market than I have spent in the discussed content