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Re: My Friend ruined the Noble Colovian Beds for me
SilverBride wrote: »I really like the beds as is.
Lots of other beds to pick instead if you don't. *Shrug*
Oh I know. But these came with the house and if I can find a way to use them it will save me a lot of mats not having to craft others.
And honestly after my friend told me what he saw in them they are creeping me out as they are.
Here’s my take on one…
…guess where it’s going!
Re: Addressing Dragonknight Power Level on U49 PTS
These changes keep getting slowly worse since the PTS update. On the PvP side there is really nothing now that makes me want to choose a DK over beetle/bow spec build.
Re: MMO does NOT mean Grouping
SilverBride wrote: »SilverBride wrote: »If you don't like grouping, MMO isn't the right game for you.
This is true not because you must group in MMOs but because there are many much better solo games...
You aren't pressured to join groups. You just won't be able to experience the whole game.
Not everyone wants to experience the whole game, and many don't but it's only the solo players that are being told this. No one tells the players that ONLY PvP that they are not experiencing the whole game. Or those that ONLY do end game and never experience the overland quests and story. It's only those that don't want to join formal groups and run end game content that are being singled nout.
Plus, as was touched on in this thread previously, there are many ways to interact with other player besides hard grouping and ESO provides that experience, so yes it is the right game for everyone to enjoy in their own way.
PvP is all PvE plus PvP. So the PvP players are already doing almost all if not all the solo content before they take part in PvP. Solo content being way too easy is why so many struggle when they try to run in groups or PvP. It takes a lot more awareness, time, experience and knowledge to take part in group activities like PvP and even more to PvP solo.
I would kindly ask you to stop promoting the extreme skill gap that creates so many problems in ESO.
U49 PTS DK Healing Skills Targeting
Hello, this is my first time writing anything on forum, and I would like to share some thoughts regarding the new DK changes on pts U49, particularly those that involve healing and buffs related to it.
As a player who has mainly played the healer/supportive role in 12-man raids for several years, I have some frustrations towards how healing abilities work in this game. It has come to our realization that players get assigned healing priority based on how early they arrive in "chunks" of world space. We came up with the nickname "chunk" to describe what are typically 5k by 5k world unit squares which are arbitrarily laid out in the game. Not all "chunks" in a zone are these perfect squares though, e.g. a bridge or a hallway can be a chunk of its own. In situations where players are full on health, the first 6 players who enter a chunk first will always be the ones the healing ticks select. This applies to majority of the multi-target healing skills. As for situations where some players are injured, these AoE over time healing skills will target the 6 most injured players on the first tick, and lock onto them for the remainder of the duration. So there we have our dilemma: Most healing skills will target the same 6 players, and the buffs that are applied through healing will only go to these 6 targets.
As a result, the buffs that get applied to players when they receive healing ticks, are almost impossible to maintain on everyone. (Eg. Minor berserk that comes from Combat Prayer, Minor heroism that comes from Fire Keeper, Minor Courage that comes from Blood of the Elder Dragon). In order for a raid group to rely on these skills to provide these sought-after buffs, raid group will have to be highly disciplined, to constantly be in 2 groups of 6, so their supports can aim and shift these ground targeting healing skills back and forth among the groups, or run far enough to outrange 1 group follow by running to the opposite direction to outrange yet another group. These methods are highly unreliable (some more than others) and impossible for less experienced groups. As a result, players will simply abandon these skills as a source to provide said buffs and seek for simpler and more reliable options. I think I can quite confidently say that, the newly changed Fire Keeper and Blood of the Elder Dragon, will NOT be the skills of choice to provide Minor Heroism and Minor Courage in a raid environment. At least, no groups will have their players pick up a skill line just for these skills. In stead, people will go back to using expensive heroism potions, and skills that are guaranteed to provide Minor Courage to everyone like Banner Bearer. Another good example is the change to Zenas' Empowering Disc to provide minor courage to only 6 made Curative Runeforms drop from a must-have skill line into one that is rarely used. If ZOS intends that these long-forgotten skills and skill lines can see the light of day again, the targeting of these skills needs to be redesigned.
Last but not least, I hope that the targeting of AOE healing over time skills can be changed to smart target every tick (just like Illustrious healing), because watching your allies dying and not getting healed despite standing in your healing circles, is every healer's nightmare T.T
As a player who has mainly played the healer/supportive role in 12-man raids for several years, I have some frustrations towards how healing abilities work in this game. It has come to our realization that players get assigned healing priority based on how early they arrive in "chunks" of world space. We came up with the nickname "chunk" to describe what are typically 5k by 5k world unit squares which are arbitrarily laid out in the game. Not all "chunks" in a zone are these perfect squares though, e.g. a bridge or a hallway can be a chunk of its own. In situations where players are full on health, the first 6 players who enter a chunk first will always be the ones the healing ticks select. This applies to majority of the multi-target healing skills. As for situations where some players are injured, these AoE over time healing skills will target the 6 most injured players on the first tick, and lock onto them for the remainder of the duration. So there we have our dilemma: Most healing skills will target the same 6 players, and the buffs that are applied through healing will only go to these 6 targets.
As a result, the buffs that get applied to players when they receive healing ticks, are almost impossible to maintain on everyone. (Eg. Minor berserk that comes from Combat Prayer, Minor heroism that comes from Fire Keeper, Minor Courage that comes from Blood of the Elder Dragon). In order for a raid group to rely on these skills to provide these sought-after buffs, raid group will have to be highly disciplined, to constantly be in 2 groups of 6, so their supports can aim and shift these ground targeting healing skills back and forth among the groups, or run far enough to outrange 1 group follow by running to the opposite direction to outrange yet another group. These methods are highly unreliable (some more than others) and impossible for less experienced groups. As a result, players will simply abandon these skills as a source to provide said buffs and seek for simpler and more reliable options. I think I can quite confidently say that, the newly changed Fire Keeper and Blood of the Elder Dragon, will NOT be the skills of choice to provide Minor Heroism and Minor Courage in a raid environment. At least, no groups will have their players pick up a skill line just for these skills. In stead, people will go back to using expensive heroism potions, and skills that are guaranteed to provide Minor Courage to everyone like Banner Bearer. Another good example is the change to Zenas' Empowering Disc to provide minor courage to only 6 made Curative Runeforms drop from a must-have skill line into one that is rarely used. If ZOS intends that these long-forgotten skills and skill lines can see the light of day again, the targeting of these skills needs to be redesigned.
Last but not least, I hope that the targeting of AOE healing over time skills can be changed to smart target every tick (just like Illustrious healing), because watching your allies dying and not getting healed despite standing in your healing circles, is every healer's nightmare T.T
Re: We Don't Need A Challenge Difficulty...We Need People To Use Their Brains
It is more a matter of habit than complexity of mechanics. Really, if you are capable of turning on your computer/console and logging into ESO, then you probably have sufficient mental capacity to understand that you should block when you see yellow sparks and interrupt when you see red ones. But if you're not in the habit of paying attention to what's happening on the screen, because ESO doesn't require you to do so in the Overland, then you'll hit a wall when any mechanics appear.PoveusRonin wrote: »So people are having difficulty following mechanics and understanding them. Your answer is to ask them to add more?
Am I understanding this right? MORE? When they have issues with the current, you think adding more is the solution?
Think about that for a little bit.
Re: PTS Update 49 - Feedback Thread for Night Market
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbPdpXs4JHgMods: I think this is essential feedback. Please don't action me because of the thumbnail text. It is not my video.
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Re: Encounter Design Proposal: “Entropede – The Echo That Grew”
No.
Please remove this AI slop.
Please remove this AI slop.
Re: PTS Update 49 - Feedback Thread for Night Market
Personally I feel this may be a little too difficult for the average player. My builds aren't perfect meta, but they're not garbage either, and even when teaming up with other players, we get wrecked. I shudder bringing my less experienced friends into this.
I like seeing more difficult stuff, but this is a liiiittle too much I think for the average playerbase.
It becomes considerably easier if you have a tank in your group.
Re: PTS Update 49 - Feedback Thread for Night Market
Not that hard tbh. I Solo'd everything but the walking roaming boss. The side bosses to hit quite hard but its not often so as long as you have a decent health size you don't get 1 shot.
Re: PTS Update 49 - Feedback Thread for Night Market
Gilded Bosses (4-person instances)
The Gilded bosses seem ok. As a seasoned dungeon/trial runner, all of the mechanics were immediately familiar. The incoming damage was mild, as expected (since there is no difficulty selection, it has to be balanced for mainstream consumption, and I think that it is), and the encounters all seemed pretty straightforward. I would say that, difficulty-wise, it feels comparable to--maybe a little easier than--veteran non-HM DLC dungeons.
There was also a familiar bug: As I reported years ago, in Scrivener's Hall, when the Entangler does its Web Pull on a player, the speed at which the player is pulled is subject to player speed bonuses such as Major and Minor Expedition. If someone who is pulled is under the effect of a Major Expedition skill such as Quick Cloak, they will be pulled in faster, which makes the mechanic more difficult as it reduces the time available to deal with this mechanic. You can most readily see this by having the tank slot rapids: observe the speed at which the player is being pulled, cast rapids, and then watch the pull speed up.
And since this behavior was never fixed for Scrivener's Hall, it was, as expected, also present here in the Night Market. As much as I enjoy trolling people by casting rapids during that mechanic, perhaps this is the time to finally address this thing.
Opulent Ordeal (12-person instance)
That was some of the most fun I've ever had in a 12-person "trial" in this game.
I got a little taste of it (without really understanding what was going on) in Hyperioxes's PUG group, and then I got a proper look at everything--at which point things finally made sense--with my own pre-scheduled group afterwards.
For people who want a quick overview of what's going on:
The encounter does have a steep learning curve, and it took a number of pulls before I was able to fully understand what was happening, but once you understand it, it does make sense. And this encounter places a lot of emphasis on teamwork. A relay is, after all, a very team-oriented activity.
There are no DPS checks. No heal checks. The incoming damage is comfortably manageable. And these are all good things, because it means that the emphasis is squarely on teamwork and coordination, and I think all this makes for a very satisfying and enjoyable encounter.
This emphasis on teamwork does mean that you will almost certainly want voice comms. I can see this being totally doable by a bunch of normal, non-hardcore players in a social guild who are hanging out in voice chat together.
Keys
The biggest concern that I have is the key mechanism. I had suspected from last week that keys would be consumed after defeating an encounter, and indeed, they are. Which means that if you want to run the Opulent Ordeal a second time, you need to kill all 6 Argent bosses and all 3 Gilded bosses again, just to regain access to the Opulent Ordeal, and this is something that everyone in your group needs to do.
Honestly, I feel like that's asking a lot and I don't like the idea of keys being consumed.
(But to play Devil's Advocate, I suppose you could look at the key acquisition as a part of the trial itself. Think of the Argent bosses as the trash packs, the Gilded bosses as the intermediate bosses leading up to the final boss, and then the Opulent Ordeal as the final boss, and perhaps a 12-person group could schedule a raid session where you acquire the keys and then do Opulent all in that raid session. Still, I feel like that this is a bit much.)
The Gilded bosses seem ok. As a seasoned dungeon/trial runner, all of the mechanics were immediately familiar. The incoming damage was mild, as expected (since there is no difficulty selection, it has to be balanced for mainstream consumption, and I think that it is), and the encounters all seemed pretty straightforward. I would say that, difficulty-wise, it feels comparable to--maybe a little easier than--veteran non-HM DLC dungeons.
There was also a familiar bug: As I reported years ago, in Scrivener's Hall, when the Entangler does its Web Pull on a player, the speed at which the player is pulled is subject to player speed bonuses such as Major and Minor Expedition. If someone who is pulled is under the effect of a Major Expedition skill such as Quick Cloak, they will be pulled in faster, which makes the mechanic more difficult as it reduces the time available to deal with this mechanic. You can most readily see this by having the tank slot rapids: observe the speed at which the player is being pulled, cast rapids, and then watch the pull speed up.
And since this behavior was never fixed for Scrivener's Hall, it was, as expected, also present here in the Night Market. As much as I enjoy trolling people by casting rapids during that mechanic, perhaps this is the time to finally address this thing.
Opulent Ordeal (12-person instance)
That was some of the most fun I've ever had in a 12-person "trial" in this game.
I got a little taste of it (without really understanding what was going on) in Hyperioxes's PUG group, and then I got a proper look at everything--at which point things finally made sense--with my own pre-scheduled group afterwards.
For people who want a quick overview of what's going on:
The group should be divided into 3 teams, each team responsible for one of the 3 areas of the map, since once you've used the traversal mechanism for that area, you are locked to that mechanism for the remainder of the encounter.
The main objective is to grab a ball in one area and deposit it in another area, but since each team can only enter their own area, this is a relay. The first group picks up the ball in their area, drop it off at a receptacle along the border of their area and the next area, the next team picks up that ball and does the same, and the final team picks it up and carries that ball to the final receptacle in their area.
This process of 3 teams relaying a ball through 3 areas is repeated 3 times until all 3 areas have acted as a "final receptacle", after which the 3 Opulent bosses spawn and the fight turns into a mostly conventional encounter.
The main objective is to grab a ball in one area and deposit it in another area, but since each team can only enter their own area, this is a relay. The first group picks up the ball in their area, drop it off at a receptacle along the border of their area and the next area, the next team picks up that ball and does the same, and the final team picks it up and carries that ball to the final receptacle in their area.
This process of 3 teams relaying a ball through 3 areas is repeated 3 times until all 3 areas have acted as a "final receptacle", after which the 3 Opulent bosses spawn and the fight turns into a mostly conventional encounter.
The encounter does have a steep learning curve, and it took a number of pulls before I was able to fully understand what was happening, but once you understand it, it does make sense. And this encounter places a lot of emphasis on teamwork. A relay is, after all, a very team-oriented activity.
There are no DPS checks. No heal checks. The incoming damage is comfortably manageable. And these are all good things, because it means that the emphasis is squarely on teamwork and coordination, and I think all this makes for a very satisfying and enjoyable encounter.
This emphasis on teamwork does mean that you will almost certainly want voice comms. I can see this being totally doable by a bunch of normal, non-hardcore players in a social guild who are hanging out in voice chat together.
Keys
The biggest concern that I have is the key mechanism. I had suspected from last week that keys would be consumed after defeating an encounter, and indeed, they are. Which means that if you want to run the Opulent Ordeal a second time, you need to kill all 6 Argent bosses and all 3 Gilded bosses again, just to regain access to the Opulent Ordeal, and this is something that everyone in your group needs to do.
Honestly, I feel like that's asking a lot and I don't like the idea of keys being consumed.
(But to play Devil's Advocate, I suppose you could look at the key acquisition as a part of the trial itself. Think of the Argent bosses as the trash packs, the Gilded bosses as the intermediate bosses leading up to the final boss, and then the Opulent Ordeal as the final boss, and perhaps a 12-person group could schedule a raid session where you acquire the keys and then do Opulent all in that raid session. Still, I feel like that this is a bit much.)