Dragon blood is way too OP, it needs to be seriously nerfed
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Do you actually know how this skill works? It recovers 33% of your lost health. When you have 2k max health it doesn't mean that every-time you recover 700hp. If you are currently at 1000/2000hp it will recover 330hp. Then you will be with 1330/2000hp and if you use it again it will recover 221hp and so on...Think about this, with most people having about 2k health near the end, dragon blood literally heals up to 700 points instantly, and last 20 seconds, it's crazy op, tune in down to 20 percent and 8 seconds.
I have a level 39 dk, you tell me if I know anything about it.
If it really doesn't heal much as you claimed, tuned it down to 20% doesn't hurt much anyway, why object then?
Fixed: If it really doesn't heal as much as you claimed then why did I make this ignorant @#$%^&* thread?
On another note, you clearly knew absolutely nothing in your OP about DB and when you have been schooled on how DB actually works your counter argument is even more ignorant than your original post!
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Indarqeen✭✭They nerfed bash but not this!!! its hilarious!!!
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✭Lol, does somebody feel their own opinion deserve a new thread, feel free to make a new one!
Any class needs to block, why only dk can restore stamina for 20 sec nonstop?Edited by crislevin on 2 June 2014 10:421 -
ForTheRealm✭✭✭Dragon Blood restores part of Health, but also utilizes a lot of magicka. If you see a DK using Dragon Blood you should DPS him as fast as possible, cause it usually means he is getting low on magicka and thus has not much left to fight with.
Sorc Dark Conversion is much more powerful than Dragon Blood. I know it takes up to 3 sec for the full usage, but it not just restores health, but also magicka. And nowadays we play a game where Magicka owns Stamina-based abililties.
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✭piotreb17_ESO4 wrote: »Dragon Blood restores part of Health, but also utilizes a lot of magicka. If you see a DK using Dragon Blood you should DPS him as fast as possible, cause it usually means he is getting low on magicka and thus has not much left to fight with.
Sorc Dark Conversion is much more powerful than Dragon Blood. I know it takes up to 3 sec for the full usage, but it not just restores health, but also magicka. And nowadays we play a game where Magicka owns Stamina-based abililties.
not really alot, if you think this way, DK doesn't use magicka as much as Sorc, AND they have about the same magicka pool.
with all the equipment, it only cost about 250-300, each dragon blood last 20 second, I don't think they will be somehow extremely low on magicka from using this.
Of course, one way to fix this, is to increase the cost.1 -
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Dragon Knights are supposed to have limited magicka, but Light Armor is just so powerful that they have more than they're balanced around. You're not going to find a medium/heavy armor DK spamming anything.piotreb17_ESO4 wrote: »Dragon Blood restores part of Health, but also utilizes a lot of magicka. If you see a DK using Dragon Blood you should DPS him as fast as possible, cause it usually means he is getting low on magicka and thus has not much left to fight with.
Sorc Dark Conversion is much more powerful than Dragon Blood. I know it takes up to 3 sec for the full usage, but it not just restores health, but also magicka. And nowadays we play a game where Magicka owns Stamina-based abililties.
not really alot, if you think this way, DK doesn't use magicka as much as Sorc, AND they have about the same magicka pool.
with all the equipment, it only cost about 250-300, each dragon blood last 20 second, I don't think they will be somehow extremely low on magicka from using this.
Of course, one way to fix this, is to increase the cost.Edited by Maverick827 on 3 June 2014 00:020 -
Mataata✭✭✭ipkonfigcub18_ESO wrote: »Sometimes I feel all these "Nerf this ability" are from Sorc players.
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✭Maverick827 wrote: »
Dragon Knights are supposed to have limited magicka, but Light Armor is just so powerful that they have more than they're balanced around. You're not going to find a medium/heavy armor DK spamming anything.piotreb17_ESO4 wrote: »Dragon Blood restores part of Health, but also utilizes a lot of magicka. If you see a DK using Dragon Blood you should DPS him as fast as possible, cause it usually means he is getting low on magicka and thus has not much left to fight with.
Sorc Dark Conversion is much more powerful than Dragon Blood. I know it takes up to 3 sec for the full usage, but it not just restores health, but also magicka. And nowadays we play a game where Magicka owns Stamina-based abililties.
not really alot, if you think this way, DK doesn't use magicka as much as Sorc, AND they have about the same magicka pool.
with all the equipment, it only cost about 250-300, each dragon blood last 20 second, I don't think they will be somehow extremely low on magicka from using this.
Of course, one way to fix this, is to increase the cost.
If they are not spamming it, slight increase of cost or shortened duration wouldn't be impact them that much neither.0 -
drackonir✭✭✭wow, you guys are still trying to discuss with this troll?"Even Gods dislike the absolute, for it stinks of something larger than themselves."
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Phantorang✭✭✭✭Ragnar_Lodbrok wrote: »
Atm it is a 2 class game, with DKs still high on top with more NERFS incoming, and the Sorc as a good number 2, who can still solo 12 trashmobs with little or no risk at all.Fimbulwinter Recruiting true Vikings | Campaigns score | EU PC0 -
SeinSchatten✭✭The more sturdier someone is, the less damage he must deal. Dragon Blood must reduce your damage by 50% after use for 5 seconds.1
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Gisgo✭✭✭✭✭GrimCyclone wrote: »I'll give you that. I'll give you that. But I'd rather just buff the classes that aren't wanted as much so they're equally wanted rather than depriving someone's class experience of what it already has been.GrimCyclone wrote: »Does anyone else feel it's a little dangerous for them to nerf like they have been when the level of hate and displeasure for this game is at a critical high? People have said "It's always like this with mmos." But we all know the loss in popularity and drop in subscriptions written all over the signatures of many regular posters here is real.
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It's just that these nerfs man... sometimes they feel like the last nail in the coffin for this game to some people. Anyone agree?GrimCyclone wrote: »You know what happens when you take away people's fun? They quit and go find another game. You know what happens when they do that too much? They don't have enough subscribers to support them. You know what happens then? They go F2P to see if that's economically viable. You know what happens then? Aaaaaall the WoW type immature kids come in and the community gets turned into a mess.
So go ahead. Keep screwing with other peoples' characters. Why don't you just mind your own business and play your character. Let others play theirs. You gotta meddle dontcha? Can't just live and let live. Gotta be a totalitarian. Everyone has to share your agenda or they're evil right?!
Sounds like a fair point of view, but then, suddenly...GrimCyclone wrote: »Personally, I hope they nerf DKs to the point where they can solo nothing and have to group for everything. Let them suffer for a week. Then give them back a little power.
About bolt escape nerf:GrimCyclone wrote: »Best news in the history of MMO. Can't wait to see the fizzle out right as my arrow flies into their chest. AP ch-ching.
Do you have an evil twin? I think he just stole your account.Edited by Gisgo on 6 June 2014 11:360 -
Phantorang✭✭✭✭piotreb17_ESO4 wrote: »Dragon Blood restores part of Health, but also utilizes a lot of magicka. If you see a DK using Dragon Blood you should DPS him as fast as possible, cause it usually means he is getting low on magicka and thus has not much left to fight with.
Sorc Dark Conversion is much more powerful than Dragon Blood. I know it takes up to 3 sec for the full usage, but it not just restores health, but also magicka. And nowadays we play a game where Magicka owns Stamina-based abililties.
not really alot, if you think this way, DK doesn't use magicka as much as Sorc, AND they have about the same magicka pool.
with all the equipment, it only cost about 250-300, each dragon blood last 20 second, I don't think they will be somehow extremely low on magicka from using this.
Of course, one way to fix this, is to increase the cost.
Thats in your head, and is your personal view on how things should be.
Why dont DK use Magicka as much as Sorcerer? Please explain.. I see DKs using 2x staff, they use just as much Magicka as Sorcerer.
In ESO everyone can use everything, so again, its only in your head.
Anyways, DKs are still extremely OP and needs alot more balancing (NERF). ZoS stated this already in their letter to us June 4th, they want to do it step by step, slow and careful so they dont go to far. But they know its still a long way to go with dk NERFing.Edited by Phantorang on 6 June 2014 11:27Fimbulwinter Recruiting true Vikings | Campaigns score | EU PC2 -
Stratti✭✭✭✭✭It is an OP ability as a dk tank it is awesome . Maybe it needs some tuning though just like Volcanic Rune0 -
No other class has such extraordinary healing of health and Stamina. It literally allows dk to solo everything, is that how you planned? Zos?
Think about this, with most people having about 2k health near the end, dragon blood literally heals up to 700 points instantly, and last 20 seconds, it's crazy op, tune in down to 20 percent and 8 seconds.
With exploit style blocking while casting, it also provide them nonstop blocking ability.
This is simply ridiculous.
Agree, it's quite powerful. Further, compared to Templar's instant heal for example, it's more reliable (there is no more self-targeting in game, so if Templar wants to self-heal it might happen that other players around are healed instead).
What has to be looked at is the Earthen Heart passive "Battle Roar". This passive ability is quite powerful, as it restores a big amount of health, magicka and stamina when activating any ultimate. Combined with strong ultimates like Standard or Magma Armor it's basically an "I-win button" in PvP (in PvE I couldn't care less, but it's unbalanced anyways).
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✭Why just not delete DK? Maybe after that all asshanded players will feel more lucky?
So, you want this game will closed right? Coz most of players hate if someone will force them to do somethingGrimCyclone wrote: »Personally, I hope they nerf DKs to the point where they can solo nothing and have to group for everything. Let them suffer for a week. Then give them back a little power.- PC EU. Ebonheart Pact. CP 1k+
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ThyIronFist✭✭✭✭✭Inhale got nerfed and now you want GDB nerfed as well? You know what, lets just nerf all of our self-heal and stat-regen abilities. /sarcasmoff
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Stratti✭✭✭✭✭Isn't it funny how people say nerf DK and no one bats an eyelid then people say nerf Volcanic Rune and the trolls come out to play0
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Nerf this, nerf that.ss.ioannidisnrb18_ESO wrote: »Isn't it funny how people say nerf DK and no one bats an eyelid then people say nerf Volcanic Rune and the trolls come out to play
Nerf people making QQ threads.Edited by Seroczynski on 6 June 2014 11:56“To alcohol! The cause of, and solution to, all of life's problems.” ― Homer J. Simpson1 -
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✭Phantorang wrote: »piotreb17_ESO4 wrote: »Dragon Blood restores part of Health, but also utilizes a lot of magicka. If you see a DK using Dragon Blood you should DPS him as fast as possible, cause it usually means he is getting low on magicka and thus has not much left to fight with.
Sorc Dark Conversion is much more powerful than Dragon Blood. I know it takes up to 3 sec for the full usage, but it not just restores health, but also magicka. And nowadays we play a game where Magicka owns Stamina-based abililties.
not really alot, if you think this way, DK doesn't use magicka as much as Sorc, AND they have about the same magicka pool.
with all the equipment, it only cost about 250-300, each dragon blood last 20 second, I don't think they will be somehow extremely low on magicka from using this.
Of course, one way to fix this, is to increase the cost.
Thats in your head, and is your personal view on how things should be.
Why dont DK use Magicka as much as Sorcerer? Please explain.. I see DKs using 2x staff, they use just as much Magicka as Sorcerer.
In ESO everyone can use everything, so again, its only in your head.
how much magicka do you have and what is your rotation? lets compare a bit the magicka consumption.0 -
Phantorang✭✭✭✭Phantorang wrote: »piotreb17_ESO4 wrote: »Dragon Blood restores part of Health, but also utilizes a lot of magicka. If you see a DK using Dragon Blood you should DPS him as fast as possible, cause it usually means he is getting low on magicka and thus has not much left to fight with.
Sorc Dark Conversion is much more powerful than Dragon Blood. I know it takes up to 3 sec for the full usage, but it not just restores health, but also magicka. And nowadays we play a game where Magicka owns Stamina-based abililties.
not really alot, if you think this way, DK doesn't use magicka as much as Sorc, AND they have about the same magicka pool.
with all the equipment, it only cost about 250-300, each dragon blood last 20 second, I don't think they will be somehow extremely low on magicka from using this.
Of course, one way to fix this, is to increase the cost.
Thats in your head, and is your personal view on how things should be.
Why dont DK use Magicka as much as Sorcerer? Please explain.. I see DKs using 2x staff, they use just as much Magicka as Sorcerer.
In ESO everyone can use everything, so again, its only in your head.
how much magicka do you have and what is your rotation? lets compare a bit the magicka consumption.
How about we compare Sorc DPS/Magicka vs Templar DPS/Magicka instead?
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✭Maybe you guys should play game more instead of sitting here and try to build properly.
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you need to be at least capable of being on topic.Phantorang wrote: »Phantorang wrote: »piotreb17_ESO4 wrote: »Dragon Blood restores part of Health, but also utilizes a lot of magicka. If you see a DK using Dragon Blood you should DPS him as fast as possible, cause it usually means he is getting low on magicka and thus has not much left to fight with.
Sorc Dark Conversion is much more powerful than Dragon Blood. I know it takes up to 3 sec for the full usage, but it not just restores health, but also magicka. And nowadays we play a game where Magicka owns Stamina-based abililties.
not really alot, if you think this way, DK doesn't use magicka as much as Sorc, AND they have about the same magicka pool.
with all the equipment, it only cost about 250-300, each dragon blood last 20 second, I don't think they will be somehow extremely low on magicka from using this.
Of course, one way to fix this, is to increase the cost.
Thats in your head, and is your personal view on how things should be.
Why dont DK use Magicka as much as Sorcerer? Please explain.. I see DKs using 2x staff, they use just as much Magicka as Sorcerer.
In ESO everyone can use everything, so again, its only in your head.
how much magicka do you have and what is your rotation? lets compare a bit the magicka consumption.
How about we compare Sorc DPS/Magicka vs Templar DPS/Magicka instead?
You got nothing to whine about.
If you are interested in Sorc/Temp comparison, open your thread and I am happy to join.
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Fleymark✭✭✭✭✭Every ppl have a different way to see the life, imagine if zos change the game every time for every single request... world of caos.
Yeah, I am pretty sure Zeni realizes(I hope) that most (all) nerf requests are generally delivered by people who just got killed in PvP. That could only happen because of some OP ability or class as being the only explanation that their 'leet skillz' could have possibly been overcome.
LOLed. It's true tho in every game with PvP.0
