New World is trash, once the new-ness wears off they'll be back. ESO has way too much content and different ways to play to be fully replaced by New World.
SkaraMinoc wrote: »I've hit a wall in ESO PvP where I'm having trouble finding a reason to play. There's no carrot to chase. Battlegrounds have always been my go-to but after 400+ deathmatch the excitement is wearing off.
I need achievements with good rewards and a proper ranking system for me to get invested.
DUTCH_REAPER wrote: »BalticBlues wrote: »We always had the lag, not much has changed here.DUTCH_REAPER wrote: »I don’t think it was proc sets. It’s the lag, it’s skillz not firing off and disconnects.
But lately, PvP is going down the drain:
1st, PvP people got fed up about GETTING BOMBED left and right.
2nd, PvP people got fed up not knowing if GEAR BONUSES are WORKING OR NOT.
3rd and final nail, PvP people are fed up about GETTING DARK CONVERGED left and right.
Dark Convergence, Hrothgar, Plaguebreaker etc. have become a PLAGUE in PVP.
PvP got so bad with it, some of the very best ESO players said "RIP PVP".
"The Ultimate Desaster when it comes to balancing"
starting at 6:00, about Hrothgar at 7:10, result at 8:40:
"Sets like Hrothgar have no counter [...] all skill is eliminated from the game"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSXfVPel38I
The new PvP Proc sets are worse than the Ball Groups they should prevent.
ZOS decided to fight the pest with cholera.
But now we have to handle both, the pest AND the cholera.
Moreover, Ball Groups got even worse using the cholera themselves...
I really wonder how ZOS wants to clean up this PvP Proc Plague recently created.
That is the most whiney video from a you tuber I have ever seen. I have played since beta on PC NA. This guy is making a plug to go play New World lol. Is lag a problem in eso? yes. We’re ball groups a massive problem? Yes. Are specific sets too op? Yes. That doesn’t mean the game is dying. A lot of us are waiting in the shadows for them to fix/adjust. If they don’t then we won’t be back. But to say it’s dying??? Pffft. He wants to go to new world. So let him. Bye Felicia.
I don't find it particularly whiney. I think there are a lot of truths within that video/exposé.
It is true that there haven't been substantial updates to Cyrodill over the years. We received the Volundrung (axed) and a few changes to how bridges work with some slight terrain changes, but that's it!
Performance has been getting worse, the testing period during the year of performance was atrocious and was one of the first waves of guild disbands/non motivation and the introduction of the new proc sets has once again made people frustrated.
It's only natural that these doubts and evidently existing problems come out when something new is proposed elsewhere.
It could also be judged as a call out to our producer to finally watch and listen to their communities reactions to stale content, right?
I don't care for comments about this is trash this isn't...end of the day other things exist, some aspects are better and some aren't..deal with it and have more constructive comments, please
Lady_Galadhiel wrote: »Wait and see how long the people last in the new game,it just came out and it's the initial hype and being something new what keeps people playing it for now.
I agree that PvP need some love,all about it, Cyrodiil, Battlegrounds and IC, making tests such as DM only bgs when releasing sets like DC isn't the greatest of ideas either.
In PVP, the lag has been in Cyrodiil for a while, and I don't like it, but I manage. What really gets me is Dark Convergence (DC). It's ridiculous how well DC synergies with Necros. Now PVP is just get pull from one DC to another. Try to defend a keep, don't bother. DC will pull you off the wall and onto the ball group below. Try to block and walk out of one DC, to get pull into the next one, and then the next one, while necros [snip] on you with BB, grave yard, and their ultimate. If you think that Pin Pon is fun, as it is now, PVP would be your favorite game. Players often complain about the lag in Cyrodiil, that the game is unplayable. In my opinion, Cyrodiil is unplayable mainly because of DC.
It most be a lot of fun for necro groups, all wearing DC and bulldozing the field. But it's really not fun to be on the receiving end. I never thought that the day I would take a break from this game would come this soon. But I'm done for now! I do believe that ZOS reads some of the post on the forum, and if they read this one, I want them to understand the frustration. Anyway, I'll be back for the next patch!!! Good luck everyone...Xbox NA
In PVP, the lag has been in Cyrodiil for a while, and I don't like it, but I manage. What really gets me is Dark Convergence (DC). It's ridiculous how well DC synergies with Necros. Now PVP is just get pull from one DC to another. Try to defend a keep, don't bother. DC will pull you off the wall and onto the ball group below. Try to block and walk out of one DC, to get pull into the next one, and then the next one, while necros [snip] on you with BB, grave yard, and their ultimate. If you think that Pin Pon is fun, as it is now, PVP would be your favorite game. Players often complain about the lag in Cyrodiil, that the game is unplayable. In my opinion, Cyrodiil is unplayable mainly because of DC.
It most be a lot of fun for necro groups, all wearing DC and bulldozing the field. But it's really not fun to be on the receiving end. I never thought that the day I would take a break from this game would come this soon. But I'm done for now! I do believe that ZOS reads some of the post on the forum, and if they read this one, I want them to understand the frustration. Anyway, I'll be back for the next patch!!! Good luck everyone...Xbox NA
I have died specifically because of DC twice since it was released. I have seen someone pulled from a keep once, but it never happened to myself. It has shown up in a recap more often given how many people are using it, but other times it wasn't in any way instrumental to me dying.
Now, maybe I'm far more competent at this than I give myself credit for, but given I'm hearing similar stories from other people experienced and inexperienced I suspect the complaints are just largely hyperbolic, instead.
SkaraMinoc wrote: »I've hit a wall in ESO PvP where I'm having trouble finding a reason to play. There's no carrot to chase. Battlegrounds have always been my go-to but after 400+ deathmatch the excitement is wearing off.
I need achievements with good rewards and a proper ranking system for me to get invested.
And 2 teams. 3 teams is just annoying.
EdmondDontes wrote: »In PVP, the lag has been in Cyrodiil for a while, and I don't like it, but I manage. What really gets me is Dark Convergence (DC). It's ridiculous how well DC synergies with Necros. Now PVP is just get pull from one DC to another. Try to defend a keep, don't bother. DC will pull you off the wall and onto the ball group below. Try to block and walk out of one DC, to get pull into the next one, and then the next one, while necros [snip] on you with BB, grave yard, and their ultimate. If you think that Pin Pon is fun, as it is now, PVP would be your favorite game. Players often complain about the lag in Cyrodiil, that the game is unplayable. In my opinion, Cyrodiil is unplayable mainly because of DC.
It most be a lot of fun for necro groups, all wearing DC and bulldozing the field. But it's really not fun to be on the receiving end. I never thought that the day I would take a break from this game would come this soon. But I'm done for now! I do believe that ZOS reads some of the post on the forum, and if they read this one, I want them to understand the frustration. Anyway, I'll be back for the next patch!!! Good luck everyone...Xbox NA
I have died specifically because of DC twice since it was released. I have seen someone pulled from a keep once, but it never happened to myself. It has shown up in a recap more often given how many people are using it, but other times it wasn't in any way instrumental to me dying.
Now, maybe I'm far more competent at this than I give myself credit for, but given I'm hearing similar stories from other people experienced and inexperienced I suspect the complaints are just largely hyperbolic, instead.
People using the set usually take this stance. People who want their PvP back are mystified as to how a proc pull ever got implemented in the first place.
I have died specifically because of DC twice since it was released. I have seen someone pulled from a keep once, but it never happened to myself. It has shown up in a recap more often given how many people are using it, but other times it wasn't in any way instrumental to me dying.
Now, maybe I'm far more competent at this than I give myself credit for, but given I'm hearing similar stories from other people experienced and inexperienced I suspect the complaints are just largely hyperbolic, instead.
DUTCH_REAPER wrote: »DUTCH_REAPER wrote: »BalticBlues wrote: »We always had the lag, not much has changed here.DUTCH_REAPER wrote: »I don’t think it was proc sets. It’s the lag, it’s skillz not firing off and disconnects.
But lately, PvP is going down the drain:
1st, PvP people got fed up about GETTING BOMBED left and right.
2nd, PvP people got fed up not knowing if GEAR BONUSES are WORKING OR NOT.
3rd and final nail, PvP people are fed up about GETTING DARK CONVERGED left and right.
Dark Convergence, Hrothgar, Plaguebreaker etc. have become a PLAGUE in PVP.
PvP got so bad with it, some of the very best ESO players said "RIP PVP".
"The Ultimate Desaster when it comes to balancing"
starting at 6:00, about Hrothgar at 7:10, result at 8:40:
"Sets like Hrothgar have no counter [...] all skill is eliminated from the game"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSXfVPel38I
The new PvP Proc sets are worse than the Ball Groups they should prevent.
ZOS decided to fight the pest with cholera.
But now we have to handle both, the pest AND the cholera.
Moreover, Ball Groups got even worse using the cholera themselves...
I really wonder how ZOS wants to clean up this PvP Proc Plague recently created.
That is the most whiney video from a you tuber I have ever seen. I have played since beta on PC NA. This guy is making a plug to go play New World lol. Is lag a problem in eso? yes. We’re ball groups a massive problem? Yes. Are specific sets too op? Yes. That doesn’t mean the game is dying. A lot of us are waiting in the shadows for them to fix/adjust. If they don’t then we won’t be back. But to say it’s dying??? Pffft. He wants to go to new world. So let him. Bye Felicia.
I don't find it particularly whiney. I think there are a lot of truths within that video/exposé.
It is true that there haven't been substantial updates to Cyrodill over the years. We received the Volundrung (axed) and a few changes to how bridges work with some slight terrain changes, but that's it!
Performance has been getting worse, the testing period during the year of performance was atrocious and was one of the first waves of guild disbands/non motivation and the introduction of the new proc sets has once again made people frustrated.
It's only natural that these doubts and evidently existing problems come out when something new is proposed elsewhere.
It could also be judged as a call out to our producer to finally watch and listen to their communities reactions to stale content, right?
I don't care for comments about this is trash this isn't...end of the day other things exist, some aspects are better and some aren't..deal with it and have more constructive comments, please
More constructive comments?
Dude. This guy is making it like New World is the greatest thing since sliced bread. Why? [snip] Streamers come and go. While they are posting their content about best build bis build, we are already running it. And then we find the next best bis builds [snip]. Proc sets aren’t the problem. It’s the servers. It always has been. Everyone who has played since beta knows this. If streamers want to say they are leaving the game let them go. [snip] If Zos ever decides to fix this mess and bring this game back to its promised potential of 100s of players battling it out at once then most of us originals will return. [snip]
TequilaFire wrote: »They should never have listened to the solo types that think there should be a no skill way to delete groups.
"After a hard week of farming, or a long night of being nagged by your wife, there is nothing better than going out for a bit of a fish."
_adhyffbjjjf12 wrote: »My friends list is now suddenly half inactive with people last being logged into the game 4+ days ago. They’ve all gone to a new game and if that game successfully keeps their attention, there is little to no chance half my friends are coming back to play ESO.
ZOS... you need to give people a reason to play your game. There have been no announcements and no indication through years of content releases that brand new PVP content is going to be released. Without anything new to play, discover, or learn, then people have absolutely no incentive to come back to your game.
Are you going to release some new PVP content soon? If not, say goodbye forever to a large chunk to your long time player base.
rofl if you are referring to new world, its a new shiny game that is ultra shallow. There's nothing really to worry about there. Do however bring back my objective based BG ESO, that's why i've not been playing for the last week, i.e DM, DM,DM, DM, DM,Dm,Dm,Dm,Dm,Dm,Dm,.Dm for the rest of time does not appeal for obvious reasons.