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PSA: Playtesters at ZOS this week

  • Iluvrien
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    If 7 out of 11 are specifically PvP and PvE guilds, that means 4 out of 11 are not combat mechanically focused, which I think is fair.

    That was more about the ones that I could immediately identify as being combat mechanically focused, either from memory or using the first hit on Google. The others may well have been combat focused too, I just didn't have the info... however this leads into the second part...
    I knew two of the GMs who were invited to that summit. They told me in their meetings they covered and discussed matters such as crafting, animation, art, lore, and other non combat oriented parts of the game.

    Based on the audio logs posted by the fine people in Mostly Harmless combat associated mechanics got about 8 hrs of meeting time, non-combat got about 4.5. I'd like to see that be a little more balanced if possible this time around.
    And how do you or other people in this thread know what the reps sent and people invited are concerned about? I know one person who is there right now and because he runs in a prominent PvP guild, people are going to automatically label him as representing a "predominately competitive PvP guild" the way you did in your response to me. But he also is huge into Trading, so much so that he sometimes declines to come to PvP events because of trade guild stuff. so of that 7 out of 11 figure you cited, that does in no way mean 7 out 11 guilds had nothing to say or had no interest in areas of the game outside of the label you have attached to them. I think there is a lot of stereotyping and assumptions being thrown around.

    Now this point I really like and accept without reservation. It's a great point. This is one reason that the first part of my post talked about what I would like to see in the reports coming out of this session.

    I want to see lots about revitalising/reworking crafting, making the world deeper as well as wider, and active (mechanical) support for RP events and communities. If these things came up and ZOS actually acted on them? It would honestly have me looking at a subbing to this game for a long time to come.

    I want this to be a positive experience with relation to all playstyles. What I fear is that it is going to be combat/endgame centric.
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  • QuebraRegra
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    I live in the neighbourhood... you should have me by to playtest :)
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  • QuebraRegra
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    On another note, PLEASE MAKE A GOAT MOUNT!!!8594776db70602b07d5aa500f3169461.jpg

    how do we get this discussed by the group and moved forward? This needs to be the priority.

    take mah money...
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  • Banana
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    Will they listen this time. I dont remember to many miracles coming from the last visit.
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  • paulsimonps
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    Banana wrote: »
    Will they listen this time. I dont remember to many miracles coming from the last visit.

    What type of miracles were you expecting?
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  • Violynne
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    Hmm. Seems my invitation was lost in the mail. :'(

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  • Elsonso
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    Violynne wrote: »
    Hmm. Seems my invitation was lost in the mail. :'(

    I got yours by accident. I told them you would be there. Didn't you go? :smile:
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  • xaraan
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    It hurts you didn't invite me Rich.
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  • Swifigames
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    I wish I could be even considered once for anything

    I'm not so sure...what if you had ended up being considered, perhaps even secretly, only to end up being shunned in the end?
    Wouldn't that burn?
    This is not an indication of any personal situation...I'm just saying..
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  • Kali_Despoine
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    Panhandling beta testers? Jeez Zos u really should have these on staff all the time
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  • efster
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    Ixy pls ask zos to buff Bosmers. "Short and cute" is not enough
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  • themaddaedra
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    Apparently they want us to blame the streamers next time they break something :D
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  • Kilandros
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    Woot glad Ixty got invited to rep the organized PvP community
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  • Minno
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    Kilandros wrote: »
    Woot glad Ixty got invited to rep the organized PvP community

    And the PvP council!
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  • Shimmer
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    Hey all! I did a video vlog/documentary of my experience at ZOS for the playtest. In the beginning is my reaction after receiving the invite - but we were under NDA and couldn’t mention the playrest or trip to ZOS :). Hope y’all enjoy! I couldn’t hold the camera up too high, and had to cut some of the tour as we couldn’t take pictures or videos of monitors or anything with new info on it.


    https://youtu.be/6x2GkW6JbxM
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  • Cinbri
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    Shimmer wrote: »
    Hey all! I did a video vlog/documentary of my experience at ZOS for the playtest. In the beginning is my reaction after receiving the invite - but we were under NDA and couldn’t mention the playrest or trip to ZOS :). Hope y’all enjoy! I couldn’t hold the camera up too high, and had to cut some of the tour as we couldn’t take pictures or videos of monitors or anything with new info on it.


    https://youtu.be/6x2GkW6JbxM

    That was very positive. :smiley:
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  • Iselin
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    Shimmer wrote: »
    Hey all! I did a video vlog/documentary of my experience at ZOS for the playtest. In the beginning is my reaction after receiving the invite - but we were under NDA and couldn’t mention the playrest or trip to ZOS :). Hope y’all enjoy! I couldn’t hold the camera up too high, and had to cut some of the tour as we couldn’t take pictures or videos of monitors or anything with new info on it.


    https://youtu.be/6x2GkW6JbxM

    I totally knew what you guys were about to do with those napkins. Yes, I've lived that kind of life.
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  • SantieClaws
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    Shimmer wrote: »
    Hey all! I did a video vlog/documentary of my experience at ZOS for the playtest. In the beginning is my reaction after receiving the invite - but we were under NDA and couldn’t mention the playrest or trip to ZOS :). Hope y’all enjoy! I couldn’t hold the camera up too high, and had to cut some of the tour as we couldn’t take pictures or videos of monitors or anything with new info on it.


    https://youtu.be/6x2GkW6JbxM

    You have seen and spoken to the very gods of Tamriel yes.

    Their plane of oblivion seems very nice. Did you have to fight many daedra for the doughnuts?

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  • Shimmer
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    Shimmer wrote: »
    Hey all! I did a video vlog/documentary of my experience at ZOS for the playtest. In the beginning is my reaction after receiving the invite - but we were under NDA and couldn’t mention the playrest or trip to ZOS :). Hope y’all enjoy! I couldn’t hold the camera up too high, and had to cut some of the tour as we couldn’t take pictures or videos of monitors or anything with new info on it.


    https://youtu.be/6x2GkW6JbxM

    You have seen and spoken to the very gods of Tamriel yes.

    Their plane of oblivion seems very nice. Did you have to fight many daedra for the doughnuts?

    Yours with paws
    Santie Claws

    They were unguarded, and unattended. No guards were alerted when partaking in the donuts. :)
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  • Feric51
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    I see the famed “Rich from Zenimax” khakis made their obligate appearance..
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  • Joy_Division
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    Shimmer wrote: »
    Hey all! I did a video vlog/documentary of my experience at ZOS for the playtest. In the beginning is my reaction after receiving the invite - but we were under NDA and couldn’t mention the playrest or trip to ZOS :). Hope y’all enjoy! I couldn’t hold the camera up too high, and had to cut some of the tour as we couldn’t take pictures or videos of monitors or anything with new info on it.


    https://youtu.be/6x2GkW6JbxM

    Thanks for the Vlog and the 1980s flashbacks :smiley:
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  • zyk
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    AAA games typically have studios around the world collaborating on projects. It's not like meaningful playtesting and feedback can't be done remotely.

    This is a PR event.
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  • MakeMeUhSamich
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    Shimmer wrote: »
    Hey all! I did a video vlog/documentary of my experience at ZOS for the playtest. In the beginning is my reaction after receiving the invite - but we were under NDA and couldn’t mention the playrest or trip to ZOS :). Hope y’all enjoy! I couldn’t hold the camera up too high, and had to cut some of the tour as we couldn’t take pictures or videos of monitors or anything with new info on it.


    https://youtu.be/6x2GkW6JbxM

    That was fun! Thanks for sharing!
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  • DarcyMardin
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    Thanks, Shimmer, that was awesome. Loved seeing behind the scenes at the ZOS offices. And it’s great that you’re so positive about the expansion—I can hardly wait to know more!

    I just wish there’d been a few more women there. A lot of us *do* play this game. Maybe in some of the other testing groups?
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  • Morgul667
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    Even if this is PR this is cool and nice initiative :)

    Hope the feedback are actually taken into account.
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  • SantieClaws
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    Thanks, Shimmer, that was awesome. Loved seeing behind the scenes at the ZOS offices. And it’s great that you’re so positive about the expansion—I can hardly wait to know more!

    I just wish there’d been a few more women there. A lot of us *do* play this game. Maybe in some of the other testing groups?

    It was also very noticeable to this one that at the event she attended the other participants were almost all of a male appearance and also wearing beards. As this was a media event this is perhaps a reflection of a wider issue in gaming media perhaps? Maybe we will see a different approach in the articles we write or maybe not? If perhaps there is a different approach this may be something to consider further. Do we want a Tamriel that pleases a mostly male gaming media where the travellers in Tamriel itself are more evenly balanced?

    Yours with paws
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  • Alcast
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    zyk wrote: »
    AAA games typically have studios around the world collaborating on projects. It's not like meaningful playtesting and feedback can't be done remotely.

    This is a PR event.

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    Thanks, Shimmer, that was awesome. Loved seeing behind the scenes at the ZOS offices. And it’s great that you’re so positive about the expansion—I can hardly wait to know more!

    I just wish there’d been a few more women there. A lot of us *do* play this game. Maybe in some of the other testing groups?

    It was also very noticeable to this one that at the event she attended the other participants were almost all of a male appearance and also wearing beards. As this was a media event this is perhaps a reflection of a wider issue in gaming media perhaps? Maybe we will see a different approach in the articles we write or maybe not? If perhaps there is a different approach this may be something to consider further. Do we want a Tamriel that pleases a mostly male gaming media where the travellers in Tamriel itself are more evenly balanced?

    Yours with paws
    Santie Claws

    lmao
    Edited by Alcast on 3 April 2018 08:54
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  • Turelus
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    Alcast wrote: »
    zyk wrote: »
    AAA games typically have studios around the world collaborating on projects. It's not like meaningful playtesting and feedback can't be done remotely.

    This is a PR event.

    Incorrect

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    Think about it, they both seemed to get beards at the same time, and superman was able to fool people by just putting on glasses. Have we ever seen Wrobel with glasses on? :neutral:
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  • Alcast
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    Turelus wrote: »
    Alcast wrote: »
    zyk wrote: »
    AAA games typically have studios around the world collaborating on projects. It's not like meaningful playtesting and feedback can't be done remotely.

    This is a PR event.

    Incorrect

    27n1sf.jpg

    Think about it, they both seemed to get beards at the same time, and superman was able to fool people by just putting on glasses. Have we ever seen Wrobel with glasses on? :neutral:

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  • anitajoneb17_ESO
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    Alcast wrote: »
    zyk wrote: »
    AAA games typically have studios around the world collaborating on projects. It's not like meaningful playtesting and feedback can't be done remotely.

    This is a PR event.

    Incorrect

    There's no doubt in my opinion that this event is heavily motivated by PR. Nothing significant is going to be amended a couple of days prior to PTS. If it was truly motivated by testing the design, they'd do that 6 months ahead, at least.
    That being said, PR and real testing don't have to be mutually exclusive.
    And there's nothing wrong with rewarding the people who do a lot for the game (even if they do it for themselves too) with a nice trip to the USA and the headquarters.

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