PSA: Playtesters at ZOS this week

ZOS_GinaBruno

Feric51 wrote: »

Out of curiosity. Are all these folks getting invited PC players, or are there some who main consoles as well?

I would wager that to be a truly objective approach, it would need to include members from both areas. Console play is inherently different from PC play, even if the base game is identical. To not include console feedback during this type of discussion is doing a huge disservice to the community that plays on console.

As mentioned in the original post, there are players from both PC and console platforms.

Ixtyr

Feric51 wrote: »

Out of curiosity. Are all these folks getting invited PC players, or are there some who main consoles as well?

I would wager that to be a truly objective approach, it would need to include members from both areas. Console play is inherently different from PC play, even if the base game is identical. To not include console feedback during this type of discussion is doing a huge disservice to the community that plays on console.

There are console players present. Both platforms.

Feric51

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Feric51 wrote: »

Out of curiosity. Are all these folks getting invited PC players, or are there some who main consoles as well?

I would wager that to be a truly objective approach, it would need to include members from both areas. Console play is inherently different from PC play, even if the base game is identical. To not include console feedback during this type of discussion is doing a huge disservice to the community that plays on console.

As mentioned in the original post, there are players from both PC and console platforms.

Do'h! Sorry @ZOS_GinaBruno I read the original post days a day ago and guess I forgot that part was in there. Forgive my saltiness. The weather's crappy and I'm stuck in the office... yeah I got nothing. My bad!

Edit for exaggeration.

Iluvrien

Ixtyr wrote: »

Iluvrien wrote: »

Joy_Division wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Hey everyone, just want to reiterate not everyone attending is a streamer - we've chosen a wide variety of players with different strengths based on our needs. This is also not the same thing as the class rep program we recently announced; this effort has a completely different focus. Lastly, remember not everyone attending has chimed in this thread - and they don't have to if they're not comfortable doing so.

I know you folks at ZoS take a lot of heat for the perception of inviting folks that some people do not feel are representative of the community. People may disagree with me, but I think going all the way back to Summer 2014 with the guild Summit, the representation, while not perfect, has been diverse.

Then I look forward to reading the reports from people about they representations they made to ZOS about rebuilding the in-game crafting economy, as well as all the measures to support RP play... in addition to ZOS's positive responses to these representations.

If that actually happened then it would just about make my day.

Interesting that you should mention diversity and the 2014 summit. My memory suggested that the English guilds mentioned were predominantly competitive PvE and PvP guilds. So I checked, Gina's post lists 11 English guilds. I'd probably pitch about 7 of those 11 as being specifically PvP or PvE centric guilds (rather than social/casual, crafting or RP). What would your estimate be? How many of that number identified themselves as RP-heavy guilds? I'd be interested in your insight.

I roleplay as an Argonian Handbag-in-Training, does that count?

I don't know. You've have some interesting suggestions about what you are going to say with regards to combat in this thread. What are you going to pitch to ZOS about how they can best support your aspirations towards becoming an accessory?

Iselin

jeskah wrote: »

Hm, when could we expect the lift of the DNA - since you announced the event hope its soon rather than "soon". And does it means, we will see some radicalish changes in combat?

OMG, I hope they leave the DNA as is. I'd hate to see Argonian / Sload hybrids.

DosPanchos

Nice

Vanthras79

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Feric51 wrote: »

Out of curiosity. Are all these folks getting invited PC players, or are there some who main consoles as well?

I would wager that to be a truly objective approach, it would need to include members from both areas. Console play is inherently different from PC play, even if the base game is identical. To not include console feedback during this type of discussion is doing a huge disservice to the community that plays on console.

As mentioned in the original post, there are players from both PC and console platforms.

That is good to know.

Vanthras79

Iselin wrote: »

jeskah wrote: »

Hm, when could we expect the lift of the DNA - since you announced the event hope its soon rather than "soon". And does it means, we will see some radicalish changes in combat?

OMG, I hope they leave the DNA as is. I'd hate to see Argonian / Sload hybrids.

Sloagonians the 46,879th experiment from Ol' Uncle Sheo during his manic moods.

Joy_Division

Iluvrien wrote: »

Joy_Division wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Hey everyone, just want to reiterate not everyone attending is a streamer - we've chosen a wide variety of players with different strengths based on our needs. This is also not the same thing as the class rep program we recently announced; this effort has a completely different focus. Lastly, remember not everyone attending has chimed in this thread - and they don't have to if they're not comfortable doing so.

I know you folks at ZoS take a lot of heat for the perception of inviting folks that some people do not feel are representative of the community. People may disagree with me, but I think going all the way back to Summer 2014 with the guild Summit, the representation, while not perfect, has been diverse.

Then I look forward to reading the reports from people about they representations they made to ZOS about rebuilding the in-game crafting economy, as well as all the measures to support RP play... in addition to ZOS's positive responses to these representations.

If that actually happened then it would just about make my day.

Interesting that you should mention diversity and the 2014 summit. My memory suggested that the English guilds mentioned were predominantly competitive PvE and PvP guilds. So I checked, Gina's post lists 11 English guilds. I'd probably pitch about 7 of those 11 as being specifically PvP or PvE centric guilds (rather than social/casual, crafting or RP). What would your estimate be? How many of that number identified themselves as RP-heavy guilds? I'd be interested in your insight.

If 7 out of 11 are specifically PvP and PvE guilds, that means 4 out of 11 are not combat mechanically focused, which I think is fair.

I knew two of the GMs who were invited to that summit. They told me in their meetings they covered and discussed matters such as crafting, animation, art, lore, and other non combat oriented parts of the game.

And how do you or other people in this thread know what the reps sent and people invited are concerned about? I know one person who is there right now and because he runs in a prominent PvP guild, people are going to automatically label him as representing a "predominately competitive PvP guild" the way you did in your response to me. But he also is huge into Trading, so much so that he sometimes declines to come to PvP events because of trade guild stuff. so of that 7 out of 11 figure you cited, that does in no way mean 7 out 11 guilds had nothing to say or had no interest in areas of the game outside of the label you have attached to them. I think there is a lot of stereotyping and assumptions being thrown around.

MaxwellC

@Joy_Division
I hope that PvP GM talks about making rewards of the worthy much more profitable because the 200-300 gold is a joke IMO. I'd love to see it raised to 1k but more so 2k just because of how expensive it is to PvP when you're burning through potions like no other.

Joy_Division

MaxwellC wrote: »

@Joy_Division
I hope that PvP GM talks about making rewards of the worthy much more profitable because the 200-300 gold is a joke IMO. I'd love to see it raised to 1k but more so 2k just because of how expensive it is to PvP when you're burning through potions like no other.

I don't disagree with you at all. He knows the situation, but I will pass off your idea. PvP players have historically been poor and with the Golden Vendor probably going to become obsolete next Chapter, hopefully ZoS is thinking about ways to turn AP and PvP in general into gold.

Waffennacht

I wish I could be even considered once for anything

MyKillv2.0

#RememberBattery

I blame last year's summit for the loss of one of my favorite Templar healer streamed characters of all time. His passing was a shock to learn of and his funeral was difficult to watch. I don't know if I can enjoy this year's summit or not. We all should be thinking of that little fictional character and all the good times he brought us.

MaxwellC

@Joy_Division
Thanks Bb
Making gold in PvP was a bit better when Imperial city was relevant but after lack of updates to it and making tel var harder to obtain through player killing... well yeah that was a sunken ship.
I even made that tel var claim as a player who would get ganked by 3 or 4 NBs at a time but that's the thing, IC sewers were meant to be dangerous but it should also have a higher reward aspect as death may lurk around every corner.

tinythinker

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

We want to give everyone a heads up that we've invited a small number of players to visit ZeniMax Online this week. These players will be playtesting some of our upcoming content and features with the goal being to get early, targeted feedback and suggestions.

I hope ZOS gets some insightful and productive feedback that improves the game. Thanks to the play testers for accepting the offer and helping to give the rest of us a voice.

R_K

@ZOS_GinaBruno
I think everyone here knows the important question, Gina... so I'll just ask it:

Will there be punch & pie?

( and also, good luck with this week of play testing! )

Nestor

Wow, rush hour hour traffic in Baltimore is brutal.

starkerealm

paulsimonps wrote: »

Good to see that a lot of new people got invited to it and not just the same people, even if some are returning. Remember that it was a great experience being there last time. Will not be returning personally but good to know some people that had and have had great feedback are going. Have fun and help make the game better guys. Hope we get some great theorycrafters to come with. @Taylor_MB you going? I would have recommended you, done really great stuff for the community and knows the formulas well. Damage mitigation theorycrafters need to represent

I'm going, so there's going to be at least one theory crafter.

Kinda wish I'd had the time to go through this thread before I was waiting to board my flight.

Shimmer

Nestor wrote: »

Wow, rush hour hour traffic in Baltimore is brutal.

Sure is! WHY WOULD ANYONE LIVE HERE??

Ixtyr

Shimmer wrote: »

Nestor wrote: »

Wow, rush hour hour traffic in Baltimore is brutal.

Sure is! WHY WOULD ANYONE LIVE HERE??

Dat seafood doe..

Chufu

Thank you very much for the invitation and the awesome play-session which was a very nice surprise this time (we hadn't one last year for Morrowind for example). I always love the passion of the developers and CMs, it is so much fun to talk to persons who do their hobby as a job and just love ESO (like us, the players). So catchy!

Unfortunately the orc can't say much more right now, but you'll see his article on the 3rd of April on ESO-Schatzsucher.de in German and English.

#Summerset is coming, be prepared!

Seraphayel

Oh you already returned back home? How long did you guys stay there? May we ask that?

IxSTALKERxI

Nice. The fact that Zos have invited people to play test again this year adds to my hype... For them to go to the trouble of one of these play tests means they must be testing something pretty big. Curious as to what is in store for us this year.

Ixtyr

Seraphayel wrote: »

Oh you already returned back home? How long did you guys stay there? May we ask that?

Nah we're here until Saturday.

Seraphayel

Ixtyr wrote: »

Seraphayel wrote: »

Oh you already returned back home? How long did you guys stay there? May we ask that?

Nah we're here until Saturday.

Ah, nice! Thank you & have fun.

Doctordarkspawn

Shad0wfire99 wrote: »

In b4 "everything is the streamers' fault!"

S'more ZOS's fault, or at least the cry will be.

Considering they outright didn't lisen to streamer advice after they invited them the last time. Hopefully this time will be different.

Svenja

Seraphayel wrote: »

Oh you already returned back home? How long did you guys stay there? May we ask that?

Chufu was talking about the event in London which took place on Tuesday.

SantieClaws

Chufu wrote: »

Thank you very much for the invitation and the awesome play-session which was a very nice surprise this time (we hadn't one last year for Morrowind for example). I always love the passion of the developers and CMs, it is so much fun to talk to persons who do their hobby as a job and just love ESO (like us, the players). So catchy!

Unfortunately the orc can't say much more right now, but you'll see his article on the 3rd of April on ESO-Schatzsucher.de in German and English.

#Summerset is coming, be prepared!

Ah. Khajiit also might have done something on Tuesday and might also have written something. This one was there early though so seems to have missed everyone else from here who went.

Yours with paws
Santie Claws

Cinbri

I hope atleast playtesters knows if we can retrait jewelry or manipulate with droppable jewelry.

Seraphayel

Svenja wrote: »

Seraphayel wrote: »

Oh you already returned back home? How long did you guys stay there? May we ask that?

Chufu was talking about the event in London which took place on Tuesday.

So much happening right now *confused*