PSA: Playtesters at ZOS this week

anitajoneb17_ESO · April 2018

Turelus wrote: »

Impossible. Alcast doesn't speak through his nose and Wrobel doesn't swear.

Turelus · April 2018

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

Turelus wrote: »

Impossible. Alcast doesn't speak through his nose and Wrobel doesn't swear.

Clark Kent didn't lift up cars and Superman wasn't clumsy.

Alcast · April 2018

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

Alcast wrote: »

zyk wrote: »

AAA games typically have studios around the world collaborating on projects. It's not like meaningful playtesting and feedback can't be done remotely.

This is a PR event.

Incorrect

There's no doubt in my opinion that this event is heavily motivated by PR. Nothing significant is going to be amended a couple of days prior to PTS. If it was truly motivated by testing the design, they'd do that 6 months ahead, at least.
That being said, PR and real testing don't have to be mutually exclusive.
And there's nothing wrong with rewarding the people who do a lot for the game (even if they do it for themselves too) with a nice trip to the USA and the headquarters.

Do you know what we did there? I don't think so, otherwise someone broke their NDA. Don't get me wrong, I do get what you mean and I do understand your thought process...but its not entirely true

SantieClaws · April 2018

For what it is worth this one has full confidence in the creative gods and the people who travelled to work with them yes.

What Khajiit does not trust no is the wily ways of accountants and spreadsheet jugglers who may seek to influence creative choices for reasons of gold.

Khajiit is not saying do not make gold - gold it is good yes - but in the Tamriel of this ones dreams the creative vision would come first - or at least be of a higher priority than this one she suspects it is presently given.

Yours with paws
Santie Claws

Woeler · April 2018

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

Alcast wrote: »

zyk wrote: »

AAA games typically have studios around the world collaborating on projects. It's not like meaningful playtesting and feedback can't be done remotely.

This is a PR event.

Incorrect

There's no doubt in my opinion that this event is heavily motivated by PR. Nothing significant is going to be amended a couple of days prior to PTS. If it was truly motivated by testing the design, they'd do that 6 months ahead, at least.
That being said, PR and real testing don't have to be mutually exclusive.
And there's nothing wrong with rewarding the people who do a lot for the game (even if they do it for themselves too) with a nice trip to the USA and the headquarters.

You have no idea.

anitajoneb17_ESO · April 2018

Alcast wrote: »

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

Alcast wrote: »

zyk wrote: »

AAA games typically have studios around the world collaborating on projects. It's not like meaningful playtesting and feedback can't be done remotely.

This is a PR event.

Incorrect

There's no doubt in my opinion that this event is heavily motivated by PR. Nothing significant is going to be amended a couple of days prior to PTS. If it was truly motivated by testing the design, they'd do that 6 months ahead, at least.
That being said, PR and real testing don't have to be mutually exclusive.
And there's nothing wrong with rewarding the people who do a lot for the game (even if they do it for themselves too) with a nice trip to the USA and the headquarters.

Do you know what we did there? I don't think so, otherwise someone broke their NDA. Don't get me wrong, I do get what you mean and I do understand your thought process...but its not entirely true

Yes ! I was hiding in your beard :-)

Joke apart, your comment is valid, but I guess it depends on what one considers "significant".
The duration of a debuff, the area of effect of a skill, the ranges, the cooldown times, for instance, are all stuff that can be changed on a relatively short notice, and change combat significantly for a lot of people. Not that much for me.
But no feedback of yours will change the design of the map, the structure of the narrative or the appearance of overland mobs. Which are significant to a lot of people too - including me.
So unless they've showed you the stuff that they're working on for release in 2019 or 2020 (which I honestly doubt), this was all very short term.
But then again, as I said, it's fine, PR, testing and all don't have to be mutually exclusive.

Ixtyr · April 2018

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

Alcast wrote: »

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

Alcast wrote: »

zyk wrote: »

AAA games typically have studios around the world collaborating on projects. It's not like meaningful playtesting and feedback can't be done remotely.

This is a PR event.

Incorrect

There's no doubt in my opinion that this event is heavily motivated by PR. Nothing significant is going to be amended a couple of days prior to PTS. If it was truly motivated by testing the design, they'd do that 6 months ahead, at least.
That being said, PR and real testing don't have to be mutually exclusive.
And there's nothing wrong with rewarding the people who do a lot for the game (even if they do it for themselves too) with a nice trip to the USA and the headquarters.

Do you know what we did there? I don't think so, otherwise someone broke their NDA. Don't get me wrong, I do get what you mean and I do understand your thought process...but its not entirely true

So unless they've showed you the stuff that they're working on for release in 2019 or 2020 (which I honestly doubt), this was all very short term.
But then again, as I said, it's fine, PR, testing and all don't have to be mutually exclusive.

I mean, there's a reason why the embargo on our NDAs is only being "partially" lifted this week.

Ixtyr · April 2018

efster wrote: »

Ixy pls ask zos to buff Bosmers. "Short and cute" is not enough

Clearly they should just nerf Argonians and give us all the cool passives.

anitajoneb17_ESO · April 2018

Ixtyr wrote: »

I mean, there's a reason why the embargo on our NDAs is only being "partially" lifted this week.

Don't underestimate the means we have to make you... TALK !

SantieClaws · April 2018

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

Ixtyr wrote: »

I mean, there's a reason why the embargo on our NDAs is only being "partially" lifted this week.

Don't underestimate the means we have to make you... TALK !

Cat sings - red diamond, red diaaaaaoooowwwmond ...

Yours with paws
Santie Claws

gurneyhalleck00 · April 2018

Why would maint. take so long for routine patch unless as always you've all jacked stuff up......wow

Turelus · April 2018

gurneyhalleck00 wrote: »

Why would maint. take so long for routine patch unless as always you've all jacked stuff up......wow

The patch is taking a long time because players were at ZOS events/HQ?

driosketch · April 2018

Alright, it's April 3rd. What can you give us? I'm sure the forums are ready with their 'Nerf Sorc' threads or whatever it is the forums like to do.

TequilaFire · April 2018

driosketch wrote: »

Alright, it's April 3rd. What can you give us? I'm sure the forums are ready with their 'Nerf Sorc' threads or whatever it is the forums like to do.

No NOTM is nightblades.

Turelus · April 2018

driosketch wrote: »

Alright, it's April 3rd. What can you give us? I'm sure the forums are ready with their 'Nerf Sorc' threads or whatever it is the forums like to do.

20mins left

Zeni0s · April 2018

Bighanson · April 2018

16:03 -> cant find any information? or am I wrong?

MyKillv2.0 · April 2018

They canceled it.

SantieClaws · April 2018

The writings of this one they are now available

http://www.imperialtradingcompany.net/

Yours with paws
Santie Claws

MissBizz · April 2018

SantieClaws wrote: »

DarcyMardin wrote: »

Thanks, Shimmer, that was awesome. Loved seeing behind the scenes at the ZOS offices. And it’s great that you’re so positive about the expansion—I can hardly wait to know more!

I just wish there’d been a few more women there. A lot of us *do* play this game. Maybe in some of the other testing groups?

It was also very noticeable to this one that at the event she attended the other participants were almost all of a male appearance and also wearing beards. As this was a media event this is perhaps a reflection of a wider issue in gaming media perhaps? Maybe we will see a different approach in the articles we write or maybe not? If perhaps there is a different approach this may be something to consider further. Do we want a Tamriel that pleases a mostly male gaming media where the travellers in Tamriel itself are more evenly balanced?

Yours with paws
Santie Claws

@SantieClaws Something I noticed at Pax last year. You know how normally there's a huge line for the woman's washroom? At Pax, I could walk straight in and have a stall available. The men's washroom though? RIP. HUGE lines.

So yeah, I think in general it's still male orientated.

TequilaFire · April 2018

Maybe the guys drink more beer!
Wait I should know better, I have a German wife. lol

Iselin · April 2018

Question for you play testers.

Does post-Summerset jewelry have new unique icons so you can easily tell which can be deconstructed (new) and which can't (old)?

Shimmer · April 2018

Iselin wrote: »

Question for you play testers.

Does post-Summerset jewelry have new unique icons so you can easily tell which can be deconstructed (new) and which can't (old)?

They did not have a unique icon. The jewelry with NEW traits do not drop anywhere though. The only way to get those to research is through quest rewards similar to nirn.

Turelus · April 2018

Shimmer wrote: »

Iselin wrote: »

Question for you play testers.

Does post-Summerset jewelry have new unique icons so you can easily tell which can be deconstructed (new) and which can't (old)?

They did not have a unique icon. The jewelry with NEW traits do not drop anywhere though. The only way to get those to research is through quest rewards similar to nirn.

Oh Azura... here we go again...

Iselin · April 2018

Shimmer wrote: »

Iselin wrote: »

Question for you play testers.

Does post-Summerset jewelry have new unique icons so you can easily tell which can be deconstructed (new) and which can't (old)?

They did not have a unique icon. The jewelry with NEW traits do not drop anywhere though. The only way to get those to research is through quest rewards similar to nirn.

The skill line will still advance by decon as well as crafting like the others though... won't it?

ZOS_GinaBruno · April 2018

Shimmer wrote: »

Iselin wrote: »

Question for you play testers.

Does post-Summerset jewelry have new unique icons so you can easily tell which can be deconstructed (new) and which can't (old)?

They did not have a unique icon. The jewelry with NEW traits do not drop anywhere though. The only way to get those to research is through quest rewards similar to nirn.

To be clear, we will have some sort of signifier in the UI - it just wasn't yet in the build you guys played.

geonsocal · April 2018

Shimmer wrote: »

Hey all! I did a video vlog/documentary of my experience at ZOS for the playtest. In the beginning is my reaction after receiving the invite - but we were under NDA and couldn’t mention the playrest or trip to ZOS . Hope y’all enjoy! I couldn’t hold the camera up too high, and had to cut some of the tour as we couldn’t take pictures or videos of monitors or anything with new info on it.

https://youtu.be/6x2GkW6JbxM

great vid @Shimmer ...really appreciate you taking pics of the office and where the testing took place...for some odd reason, that stuff is really interesting to me...

i'm glad you had the opportunity to attend...it definitely seems like something that was very special to you

Seraphayel · April 2018

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Shimmer wrote: »

Iselin wrote: »

Question for you play testers.

Does post-Summerset jewelry have new unique icons so you can easily tell which can be deconstructed (new) and which can't (old)?

They did not have a unique icon. The jewelry with NEW traits do not drop anywhere though. The only way to get those to research is through quest rewards similar to nirn.

To be clear, we will have some sort of signifier in the UI - it just wasn't yet in the build you guys played.

Thanks Gina!

Can you tell us when we'll get the patch notes for Summerset or is that still nda stuff? I think most of us are quite interested in the details hidden in the notes.

Later this week, next week...?

anitajoneb17_ESO · April 2018

Seraphayel wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Shimmer wrote: »

Iselin wrote: »

Question for you play testers.

Does post-Summerset jewelry have new unique icons so you can easily tell which can be deconstructed (new) and which can't (old)?

They did not have a unique icon. The jewelry with NEW traits do not drop anywhere though. The only way to get those to research is through quest rewards similar to nirn.

To be clear, we will have some sort of signifier in the UI - it just wasn't yet in the build you guys played.

Thanks Gina!

Can you tell us when we'll get the patch notes for Summerset or is that still nda stuff? I think most of us are quite interested in the details hidden in the notes.

Later this week, next week...?

PTS is planned for April 21st. Hence patch notes on April 21st.
And yes, the more infos we get, the more we want.
That's PR-driven hype - and it works.

Turelus · April 2018

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Shimmer wrote: »

Iselin wrote: »

Question for you play testers.

Does post-Summerset jewelry have new unique icons so you can easily tell which can be deconstructed (new) and which can't (old)?

They did not have a unique icon. The jewelry with NEW traits do not drop anywhere though. The only way to get those to research is through quest rewards similar to nirn.

To be clear, we will have some sort of signifier in the UI - it just wasn't yet in the build you guys played.

Nice! Thanks Gina.