Single Wielding?
Hluill
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Well, server's down again and I am bored. So I got to thinking.
I would love to see a new skill line for one, single-handed weapon. A lot (most?) of our class abilities, especially Blade of Woe, are single weapon, one-handed animations. Why not have a whole skill line based on this?
Free up a hand for grappling like in the Blade of Woe animations.
I would love to see a new skill line for one, single-handed weapon. A lot (most?) of our class abilities, especially Blade of Woe, are single weapon, one-handed animations. Why not have a whole skill line based on this?
Free up a hand for grappling like in the Blade of Woe animations.
Black-handed Hluill and his daughter Leyek of House Numaril.
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Carraig✭✭✭TheAngelofDeath99 wrote: »
Maybe because it has been adressed a few times in the past years already:
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/126715/can-we-have-a-one-handed-skill-line
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/254867/one-hand-weapon-line-draft
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/355967/one-handed-wands
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/295883/why-no-one-handed-fighting-skill-line
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/325541/would-you-be-interested-in-a-one-handed-skill-line
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/237212/reminder-we-want-a-one-handed-skill-line
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/281461/one-handed
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/146140/one-handed-spell
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/206860/one-handed-fighting-style
These are only the results of the first 4 pages after I entered "one hand" in the search bar. I'm sure more can be found when using different search criteria.
Edited by Carraig on 17 August 2017 08:16Knight-Captain of the Tamriel's Elite Sentinels ( EU server-PC)"Courage is not the absence of fear, but rather the judgment that something is more important than fear. The brave may not live forever, but the cautious do not live at all."2 -
tunepunk✭✭✭✭✭TheAngelofDeath99 wrote: »
Maybe because it has been adressed a few times in the past years already:
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/126715/can-we-have-a-one-handed-skill-line
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/254867/one-hand-weapon-line-draft
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/355967/one-handed-wands
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/295883/why-no-one-handed-fighting-skill-line
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/325541/would-you-be-interested-in-a-one-handed-skill-line
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/237212/reminder-we-want-a-one-handed-skill-line
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/281461/one-handed
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/146140/one-handed-spell
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/206860/one-handed-fighting-style
These are only the resultss of the first 4 pages after I entered "one hand" in the search bar. I'm sure more can be found when using different search criteria.
People complain and say "use search" when you post a thread of a an already discussed topic.
People complain if you search the forum and Necro a thread of the same topic.
What to do?
:Tongue:
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✭TheAngelofDeath99 wrote: »
Maybe because it has been adressed a few times in the past years already:
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/126715/can-we-have-a-one-handed-skill-line
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/254867/one-hand-weapon-line-draft
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/355967/one-handed-wands
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/295883/why-no-one-handed-fighting-skill-line
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/325541/would-you-be-interested-in-a-one-handed-skill-line
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/237212/reminder-we-want-a-one-handed-skill-line
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/281461/one-handed
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/146140/one-handed-spell
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/206860/one-handed-fighting-style
These are only the resultss of the first 4 pages after I entered "one hand" in the search bar. I'm sure more can be found when using different search criteria.
People complain and say "use search" when you post a thread of a an already discussed topic.
People complain if you search the forum and Necro a thread of the same topic.
What to do?
:Tongue:
Not post at all because everything would have already been said before.Kiss the chaos.4 -
Hluill✭✭✭TheAngelofDeath99 wrote: »
Maybe because it has been adressed a few times in the past years already:
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/126715/can-we-have-a-one-handed-skill-line
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/254867/one-hand-weapon-line-draft
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/355967/one-handed-wands
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/295883/why-no-one-handed-fighting-skill-line
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/325541/would-you-be-interested-in-a-one-handed-skill-line
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/237212/reminder-we-want-a-one-handed-skill-line
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/281461/one-handed
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/146140/one-handed-spell
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/206860/one-handed-fighting-style
These are only the resultss of the first 4 pages after I entered "one hand" in the search bar. I'm sure more can be found when using different search criteria.
People complain and say "use search" when you post a thread of a an already discussed topic.
People complain if you search the forum and Necro a thread of the same topic.
What to do?
:Tongue:
Not post at all because everything would have already been said before.
~laughs~
Of course, along similar lines of thought: Do not take part in a conversation if you have nothing constructive to add. Why go through all the trouble to respond if it's only to be negative?
If it's all been said and done before, what's the purpose of anything?
Maybe you could summarize the previous arguments.
Apologies, last time I raised an old thread the moderator closed it for necromancy, or ***, or necrosis, or whatever.
Since I felt it was a topic of some importance I thought it'd be okay to refresh the conversation.
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✭TheAngelofDeath99 wrote: »
Maybe because it has been adressed a few times in the past years already:
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/126715/can-we-have-a-one-handed-skill-line
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/254867/one-hand-weapon-line-draft
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/355967/one-handed-wands
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/295883/why-no-one-handed-fighting-skill-line
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/325541/would-you-be-interested-in-a-one-handed-skill-line
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/237212/reminder-we-want-a-one-handed-skill-line
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/281461/one-handed
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/146140/one-handed-spell
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/206860/one-handed-fighting-style
These are only the resultss of the first 4 pages after I entered "one hand" in the search bar. I'm sure more can be found when using different search criteria.
People complain and say "use search" when you post a thread of a an already discussed topic.
People complain if you search the forum and Necro a thread of the same topic.
What to do?
:Tongue:
Not post at all because everything would have already been said before.
~laughs~
Of course, along similar lines of thought: Do not take part in a conversation if you have nothing constructive to add. Why go through all the trouble to respond if it's only to be negative?
If it's all been said and done before, what's the purpose of anything?
Maybe you could summarize the previous arguments.
Apologies, last time I raised an old thread the moderator closed it for necromancy, or ***, or necrosis, or whatever.
Since I felt it was a topic of some importance I thought it'd be okay to refresh the conversation.
Just because it isn't something you like to hear doesn't mean it's not constructive. Go and read some of the threads @Carraig quoted earlier. What have you said that was "constructive" that hasn't been said before?
The summary boils down to "I want a 1 handed skill line because it's cool, zos please", which, lo and behold, is pretty much what your own thread boils down to.
To be clear: this isn't to say that I'm against the idea of a 1 handed skill line, just that this discussion has taken place hundreds of times before.Kiss the chaos.1 -
Bladerunner1✭✭✭✭Well I haven't taken part in this discussion before so here's a new piece of never-before heard input.
Grappling and close-quarters can be fun, but I miss being able to lob fireballs while slashing at things with a one-handed weapon like in the other ES games. However DPS would be gimped terribly under the current combat system that punishes Hybrids, so I'd happily take the green goblin path and let green poison balls and green poison gas spew forth from my off-hand if it means I can essentially get the same experience.
Either they should make the skill line all stamina skills, or find a non-punishing way to wield a sword as a mage.2 -
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✭Bladerunner1 wrote: »Well I haven't taken part in this discussion before so here's a new piece of never-before heard input.
Grappling and close-quarters can be fun, but I miss being able to lob fireballs while slashing at things with a one-handed weapon like in the other ES games. However DPS would be gimped terribly under the current combat system that punishes Hybrids, so I'd happily take the green goblin path and let green poison balls and green poison gas spew forth from my off-hand if it means I can essentially get the same experience.
Either they should make the skill line all stamina skills, or find a non-punishing way to wield a sword as a mage.
So one of the formerly discussed ideas (and rumours that eventually turned out to be nothing but myth) was to have a "one handed sword and rune" skill line. Before Morrowind was released, there was official artwork that portrayed it (a swordsman with a sword in one hand and wielding magic in the other), but was debunked as just conceptual and not at all reflective of a new skill line.
It's been said before.Kiss the chaos.0 -
Bladerunner1✭✭✭✭Bladerunner1 wrote: »Well I haven't taken part in this discussion before so here's a new piece of never-before heard input.
Grappling and close-quarters can be fun, but I miss being able to lob fireballs while slashing at things with a one-handed weapon like in the other ES games. However DPS would be gimped terribly under the current combat system that punishes Hybrids, so I'd happily take the green goblin path and let green poison balls and green poison gas spew forth from my off-hand if it means I can essentially get the same experience.
Either they should make the skill line all stamina skills, or find a non-punishing way to wield a sword as a mage.
So one of the formerly discussed ideas (and rumours that eventually turned out to be nothing but myth) was to have a "one handed sword and rune" skill line. Before Morrowind was released, there was official artwork that portrayed it (a swordsman with a sword in one hand and wielding magic in the other), but was debunked as just conceptual and not at all reflective of a new skill line.
It's been said before.
But I don't want a runekeeper, that's too LOTRO. Even if combining magic and sword into a skill line has been spoken about before, I'm saying they should make the options disease and poison related so that the current combat system works well with the skill line. It would also be a debuffing type of skill line.0 -
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Datolite✭✭✭✭✭TheAngelofDeath99 wrote: »
Maybe because it has been adressed a few times in the past years already:
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/126715/can-we-have-a-one-handed-skill-line
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/254867/one-hand-weapon-line-draft
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/355967/one-handed-wands
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/295883/why-no-one-handed-fighting-skill-line
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/325541/would-you-be-interested-in-a-one-handed-skill-line
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/237212/reminder-we-want-a-one-handed-skill-line
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/281461/one-handed
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/146140/one-handed-spell
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/206860/one-handed-fighting-style
These are only the resultss of the first 4 pages after I entered "one hand" in the search bar. I'm sure more can be found when using different search criteria.
People complain and say "use search" when you post a thread of a an already discussed topic.
People complain if you search the forum and Necro a thread of the same topic.
What to do?
:Tongue:
Not post at all because everything would have already been said before.
Why don't we all just never talk at all if every subject in life has been brought up before?
Why don't we just abolish conversation altogether?
You start please.2 -
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✭✭✭✭✭TheAngelofDeath99 wrote: »
Maybe because it has been adressed a few times in the past years already:
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/126715/can-we-have-a-one-handed-skill-line
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/254867/one-hand-weapon-line-draft
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/355967/one-handed-wands
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/295883/why-no-one-handed-fighting-skill-line
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/325541/would-you-be-interested-in-a-one-handed-skill-line
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/237212/reminder-we-want-a-one-handed-skill-line
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/281461/one-handed
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/146140/one-handed-spell
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/206860/one-handed-fighting-style
These are only the resultss of the first 4 pages after I entered "one hand" in the search bar. I'm sure more can be found when using different search criteria.
People complain and say "use search" when you post a thread of a an already discussed topic.
People complain if you search the forum and Necro a thread of the same topic.
What to do?
:Tongue:
Let it die/rest peacefully
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✭datoliteb16_ESO wrote: »TheAngelofDeath99 wrote: »
Maybe because it has been adressed a few times in the past years already:
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/126715/can-we-have-a-one-handed-skill-line
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/254867/one-hand-weapon-line-draft
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/355967/one-handed-wands
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/295883/why-no-one-handed-fighting-skill-line
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/325541/would-you-be-interested-in-a-one-handed-skill-line
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/237212/reminder-we-want-a-one-handed-skill-line
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/281461/one-handed
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/146140/one-handed-spell
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/206860/one-handed-fighting-style
These are only the resultss of the first 4 pages after I entered "one hand" in the search bar. I'm sure more can be found when using different search criteria.
People complain and say "use search" when you post a thread of a an already discussed topic.
People complain if you search the forum and Necro a thread of the same topic.
What to do?
:Tongue:
Not post at all because everything would have already been said before.
Why don't we all just never talk at all if every subject in life has been brought up before?
Why don't we just abolish conversation altogether?
You start please.
Anyone with half the wit of a spoon would know that I'm referring to certain subjects that have just been brought up far too many times, far too recently.
And then there are people like you.Kiss the chaos.0 -
Hluill✭✭✭datoliteb16_ESO wrote: »TheAngelofDeath99 wrote: »
Maybe because it has been adressed a few times in the past years already:
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/126715/can-we-have-a-one-handed-skill-line
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/254867/one-hand-weapon-line-draft
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/355967/one-handed-wands
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/295883/why-no-one-handed-fighting-skill-line
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/325541/would-you-be-interested-in-a-one-handed-skill-line
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/237212/reminder-we-want-a-one-handed-skill-line
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/281461/one-handed
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/146140/one-handed-spell
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/206860/one-handed-fighting-style
These are only the resultss of the first 4 pages after I entered "one hand" in the search bar. I'm sure more can be found when using different search criteria.
People complain and say "use search" when you post a thread of a an already discussed topic.
People complain if you search the forum and Necro a thread of the same topic.
What to do?
:Tongue:
Not post at all because everything would have already been said before.
Why don't we all just never talk at all if every subject in life has been brought up before?
Why don't we just abolish conversation altogether?
You start please.
Anyone with half the wit of a spoon would know that I'm referring to certain subjects that have just been brought up far too many times, far too recently.
And then there are people like you.
Wow, I don't think you're getting the point.
Here's a simple idea: if a topic keeps getting brought up, maybe it's valid? I am reminded of my mom getting mad at me when I was a kid because she had to tell me stuff three times. Should I have just said that she'd brought it up before so I could continue to ignore her? I probably did say that and had to pay when my dad got home...
What harm is there in discussing ideas, not matter how improbable their realization? How easy it is to just shrug and say: It ain't gonna happen so shut up... See, I am old school: I think the shruggers should shut up and listen, or ignore and get out of the way.
Me, I would love to see a game get some more immersive attacks, like single wielding. All my knife training only uses a single knife. Dual-wielding daggers seems kinda silly to me and dual-wielding full-sized swords is even worse. Yeah I know, there ain't no room for reality here.Black-handed Hluill and his daughter Leyek of House Numaril.0 -
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✭✭1 handed skill-line i hope would be bis for ganking. including a parry.PS4 NA DC0 -
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Carraig✭✭✭GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »1 handed skill-line i hope would be bis for ganking. including a parry.
There already is: 1-hand and Shield. That shield is not only for cosmetics, but also to block and parry
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✭datoliteb16_ESO wrote: »TheAngelofDeath99 wrote: »
Maybe because it has been adressed a few times in the past years already:
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/126715/can-we-have-a-one-handed-skill-line
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/254867/one-hand-weapon-line-draft
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/355967/one-handed-wands
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/295883/why-no-one-handed-fighting-skill-line
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/325541/would-you-be-interested-in-a-one-handed-skill-line
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/237212/reminder-we-want-a-one-handed-skill-line
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/281461/one-handed
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/146140/one-handed-spell
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/206860/one-handed-fighting-style
These are only the resultss of the first 4 pages after I entered "one hand" in the search bar. I'm sure more can be found when using different search criteria.
People complain and say "use search" when you post a thread of a an already discussed topic.
People complain if you search the forum and Necro a thread of the same topic.
What to do?
:Tongue:
Not post at all because everything would have already been said before.
Why don't we all just never talk at all if every subject in life has been brought up before?
Why don't we just abolish conversation altogether?
You start please.
Anyone with half the wit of a spoon would know that I'm referring to certain subjects that have just been brought up far too many times, far too recently.
And then there are people like you.
Wow, I don't think you're getting the point.
Here's a simple idea: if a topic keeps getting brought up, maybe it's valid? I am reminded of my mom getting mad at me when I was a kid because she had to tell me stuff three times. Should I have just said that she'd brought it up before so I could continue to ignore her? I probably did say that and had to pay when my dad got home...
What harm is there in discussing ideas, not matter how improbable their realization? How easy it is to just shrug and say: It ain't gonna happen so shut up... See, I am old school: I think the shruggers should shut up and listen, or ignore and get out of the way.
Me, I would love to see a game get some more immersive attacks, like single wielding. All my knife training only uses a single knife. Dual-wielding daggers seems kinda silly to me and dual-wielding full-sized swords is even worse. Yeah I know, there ain't no room for reality here.
Validity? No. Validity implies the presence of importance in terms of game play. Posting again and again about a bug would be valid. Posting again and again "I want this" is not.
So going with your logic, where's the harm in pointing out that what you've said has been said a hundred times before?
Yeah we should also get a melee staff tree cause my bo staff fighting training makes shooting lightning and fireballs out of my staves seem really silly to me. /sKiss the chaos.0 -
Hluill✭✭✭datoliteb16_ESO wrote: »TheAngelofDeath99 wrote: »
Maybe because it has been adressed a few times in the past years already:
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/126715/can-we-have-a-one-handed-skill-line
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/254867/one-hand-weapon-line-draft
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/355967/one-handed-wands
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/295883/why-no-one-handed-fighting-skill-line
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/325541/would-you-be-interested-in-a-one-handed-skill-line
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/237212/reminder-we-want-a-one-handed-skill-line
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/281461/one-handed
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/146140/one-handed-spell
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/206860/one-handed-fighting-style
These are only the resultss of the first 4 pages after I entered "one hand" in the search bar. I'm sure more can be found when using different search criteria.
People complain and say "use search" when you post a thread of a an already discussed topic.
People complain if you search the forum and Necro a thread of the same topic.
What to do?
:Tongue:
Not post at all because everything would have already been said before.
Why don't we all just never talk at all if every subject in life has been brought up before?
Why don't we just abolish conversation altogether?
You start please.
Anyone with half the wit of a spoon would know that I'm referring to certain subjects that have just been brought up far too many times, far too recently.
And then there are people like you.
Wow, I don't think you're getting the point.
Here's a simple idea: if a topic keeps getting brought up, maybe it's valid? I am reminded of my mom getting mad at me when I was a kid because she had to tell me stuff three times. Should I have just said that she'd brought it up before so I could continue to ignore her? I probably did say that and had to pay when my dad got home...
What harm is there in discussing ideas, not matter how improbable their realization? How easy it is to just shrug and say: It ain't gonna happen so shut up... See, I am old school: I think the shruggers should shut up and listen, or ignore and get out of the way.
Me, I would love to see a game get some more immersive attacks, like single wielding. All my knife training only uses a single knife. Dual-wielding daggers seems kinda silly to me and dual-wielding full-sized swords is even worse. Yeah I know, there ain't no room for reality here.
Validity? No. Validity implies the presence of importance in terms of game play. Posting again and again about a bug would be valid. Posting again and again "I want this" is not.
So going with your logic, where's the harm in pointing out that what you've said has been said a hundred times before?
Yeah we should also get a melee staff tree cause my bo staff fighting training makes shooting lightning and fireballs out of my staves seem really silly to me. /s
~laughs~
"Validity implies the presence of importance"
I get it. You don't think game cosmetics and mechanics are important. Bug killing is a higher priority, sure. But that's an opinion, and obviously important to you. I am sorry that my opinion differs and obviously offends you on some level. I would point out that there are endless posts concerning game bugs too. Some have been brought up ad nauseum as well.
I would advise that you avoid threads that offend you, threads on which you don't want to offer, in my opinion, valid input.
And I agree that the staff animations are silly. "Look: I got a stick that farts!" But I've never been a fan of playing caster classes...Black-handed Hluill and his daughter Leyek of House Numaril.0 -
Illurian✭✭✭✭✭
✭datoliteb16_ESO wrote: »TheAngelofDeath99 wrote: »
Maybe because it has been adressed a few times in the past years already:
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/126715/can-we-have-a-one-handed-skill-line
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/254867/one-hand-weapon-line-draft
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/355967/one-handed-wands
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/295883/why-no-one-handed-fighting-skill-line
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/325541/would-you-be-interested-in-a-one-handed-skill-line
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/237212/reminder-we-want-a-one-handed-skill-line
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/281461/one-handed
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/146140/one-handed-spell
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/206860/one-handed-fighting-style
These are only the resultss of the first 4 pages after I entered "one hand" in the search bar. I'm sure more can be found when using different search criteria.
People complain and say "use search" when you post a thread of a an already discussed topic.
People complain if you search the forum and Necro a thread of the same topic.
What to do?
:Tongue:
Not post at all because everything would have already been said before.
Why don't we all just never talk at all if every subject in life has been brought up before?
Why don't we just abolish conversation altogether?
You start please.
Anyone with half the wit of a spoon would know that I'm referring to certain subjects that have just been brought up far too many times, far too recently.
And then there are people like you.
Wow, I don't think you're getting the point.
Here's a simple idea: if a topic keeps getting brought up, maybe it's valid? I am reminded of my mom getting mad at me when I was a kid because she had to tell me stuff three times. Should I have just said that she'd brought it up before so I could continue to ignore her? I probably did say that and had to pay when my dad got home...
What harm is there in discussing ideas, not matter how improbable their realization? How easy it is to just shrug and say: It ain't gonna happen so shut up... See, I am old school: I think the shruggers should shut up and listen, or ignore and get out of the way.
Me, I would love to see a game get some more immersive attacks, like single wielding. All my knife training only uses a single knife. Dual-wielding daggers seems kinda silly to me and dual-wielding full-sized swords is even worse. Yeah I know, there ain't no room for reality here.
Validity? No. Validity implies the presence of importance in terms of game play. Posting again and again about a bug would be valid. Posting again and again "I want this" is not.
So going with your logic, where's the harm in pointing out that what you've said has been said a hundred times before?
Yeah we should also get a melee staff tree cause my bo staff fighting training makes shooting lightning and fireballs out of my staves seem really silly to me. /s
~laughs~
"Validity implies the presence of importance"
I get it. You don't think game cosmetics and mechanics are important. Bug killing is a higher priority, sure. But that's an opinion, and obviously important to you. I am sorry that my opinion differs and obviously offends you on some level. I would point out that there are endless posts concerning game bugs too. Some have been brought up ad nauseum as well.
I would advise that you avoid threads that offend you, threads on which you don't want to offer, in my opinion, valid input.
And I agree that the staff animations are silly. "Look: I got a stick that farts!" But I've never been a fan of playing caster classes...
On the contrary, cosmetics are a big part of the game to me. A large reason why I use crafted armor is because I get to control how my armor looks.
Clearly the point has flown past your head. By importance in terms of game play I was referring to topics that actually affected the running of the game (e.g. game breaking bugs), which are objectively important and valid, not subjective topics like cosmetics vs mechanics.
I would advise the same. Don't create threads in which you don't want to offer, in my opinion, any valid input.Edited by Illurian on 21 August 2017 16:15Kiss the chaos.0 -
Joffi✭✭✭Oh, noes..! Something has been discussed by different people before! However shall I not participate?"Bah... This is not the way... "
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Jurfi da Nord, Aldmeri Dominion, Nord,Warden, Vampire: "Serving my own needs is easy."
Randal the Second, Ebonheart Pact, Dark Elf, Dragonknight: "I refuse to feel the ex-slaver guilt I have."
Inos sal'Ma'Nefic, Aldmeri Dominion, Imperial, Templar: "Heals by accident count, eh? Eh?"
Desdenada Jof, Ebonheart Pact, High Elf, Sorcerer: "Righteousness is its own edict."
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SirMewser✭✭✭✭✭TheAngelofDeath99 wrote: »
Maybe because it has been adressed a few times in the past years already:
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/126715/can-we-have-a-one-handed-skill-line
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/254867/one-hand-weapon-line-draft
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/355967/one-handed-wands
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/295883/why-no-one-handed-fighting-skill-line
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/325541/would-you-be-interested-in-a-one-handed-skill-line
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/237212/reminder-we-want-a-one-handed-skill-line
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/281461/one-handed
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/146140/one-handed-spell
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/206860/one-handed-fighting-style
These are only the resultss of the first 4 pages after I entered "one hand" in the search bar. I'm sure more can be found when using different search criteria.
People complain and say "use search" when you post a thread of a an already discussed topic.
People complain if you search the forum and Necro a thread of the same topic.
What to do?
:Tongue:
Not post at all because everything would have already been said before.
People want it though, and still do.
Remember prior to Morrowind's release the 1H and rune outburst?
ZoS has a lot of opportunities and ideas to work with which have been kind of a lack in terms of combat for well... Ever.
I could play the new Warden class (and I do) but I really would like to see some other layer of character development or something expanded for the classes we already have.
Paying 50$ for an expansion just to have new skill sets which are isolated to that class is not how to go about this, it's against the Elder Scroll tradition when it comes to DLCs.
I sure as heck hate having 12 toons just to spice up gameplay, perhaps that is bias because it's not what I am use to in; Morrowind, Oblivion, or Skyrim but I know I am not alone so there must be some profit for ZoS.0 -
Illurian✭✭✭✭✭
✭Oh, noes..! Something has been discussed by different people before! However shall I not participate?
The irony is that your facetious comment added nothing to the conversation; you really aren't a participant.TheAngelofDeath99 wrote: »
Maybe because it has been adressed a few times in the past years already:
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/126715/can-we-have-a-one-handed-skill-line
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/254867/one-hand-weapon-line-draft
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/355967/one-handed-wands
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/295883/why-no-one-handed-fighting-skill-line
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/325541/would-you-be-interested-in-a-one-handed-skill-line
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/237212/reminder-we-want-a-one-handed-skill-line
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/281461/one-handed
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/146140/one-handed-spell
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/206860/one-handed-fighting-style
These are only the resultss of the first 4 pages after I entered "one hand" in the search bar. I'm sure more can be found when using different search criteria.
People complain and say "use search" when you post a thread of a an already discussed topic.
People complain if you search the forum and Necro a thread of the same topic.
What to do?
:Tongue:
Not post at all because everything would have already been said before.
People want it though, and still do.
Remember prior to Morrowind's release the 1H and rune outburst?
ZoS has a lot of opportunities and ideas to work with which have been kind of a lack in terms of combat for well... Ever.
I could play the new Warden class (and I do) but I really would like to see some other layer of character development or something expanded for the classes we already have.
Paying 50$ for an expansion just to have new skill sets which are isolated to that class is not how to go about this, it's against the Elder Scroll tradition when it comes to DLCs.
I sure as heck hate having 12 toons just to spice up gameplay, perhaps that is bias because it's not what I am use to in; Morrowind, Oblivion, or Skyrim but I know I am not alone so there must be some profit for ZoS.
Not denying that people still want it (I wouldn't mind it either), but it is precisely because of outbursts like the one you mentioned that it's beating the dead horse.
Like I said, I'm not against the idea of a 1 handed skill line at all. I'm just saying that it's been asked for and discussed countless times before.
Either way, shouldn't this entire thread be in another subforum? This thread has nothing to do with current combat and character mechanics. Just another "1 handed skill line plz" thread.Kiss the chaos.0 -
Hluill✭✭✭datoliteb16_ESO wrote: »TheAngelofDeath99 wrote: »
Maybe because it has been adressed a few times in the past years already:
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/126715/can-we-have-a-one-handed-skill-line
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/254867/one-hand-weapon-line-draft
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/355967/one-handed-wands
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/295883/why-no-one-handed-fighting-skill-line
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/325541/would-you-be-interested-in-a-one-handed-skill-line
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/237212/reminder-we-want-a-one-handed-skill-line
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/281461/one-handed
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/146140/one-handed-spell
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/206860/one-handed-fighting-style
These are only the resultss of the first 4 pages after I entered "one hand" in the search bar. I'm sure more can be found when using different search criteria.
People complain and say "use search" when you post a thread of a an already discussed topic.
People complain if you search the forum and Necro a thread of the same topic.
What to do?
:Tongue:
Not post at all because everything would have already been said before.
Why don't we all just never talk at all if every subject in life has been brought up before?
Why don't we just abolish conversation altogether?
You start please.
Anyone with half the wit of a spoon would know that I'm referring to certain subjects that have just been brought up far too many times, far too recently.
And then there are people like you.
Wow, I don't think you're getting the point.
Here's a simple idea: if a topic keeps getting brought up, maybe it's valid? I am reminded of my mom getting mad at me when I was a kid because she had to tell me stuff three times. Should I have just said that she'd brought it up before so I could continue to ignore her? I probably did say that and had to pay when my dad got home...
What harm is there in discussing ideas, not matter how improbable their realization? How easy it is to just shrug and say: It ain't gonna happen so shut up... See, I am old school: I think the shruggers should shut up and listen, or ignore and get out of the way.
Me, I would love to see a game get some more immersive attacks, like single wielding. All my knife training only uses a single knife. Dual-wielding daggers seems kinda silly to me and dual-wielding full-sized swords is even worse. Yeah I know, there ain't no room for reality here.
Validity? No. Validity implies the presence of importance in terms of game play. Posting again and again about a bug would be valid. Posting again and again "I want this" is not.
So going with your logic, where's the harm in pointing out that what you've said has been said a hundred times before?
Yeah we should also get a melee staff tree cause my bo staff fighting training makes shooting lightning and fireballs out of my staves seem really silly to me. /s
~laughs~
"Validity implies the presence of importance"
I get it. You don't think game cosmetics and mechanics are important. Bug killing is a higher priority, sure. But that's an opinion, and obviously important to you. I am sorry that my opinion differs and obviously offends you on some level. I would point out that there are endless posts concerning game bugs too. Some have been brought up ad nauseum as well.
I would advise that you avoid threads that offend you, threads on which you don't want to offer, in my opinion, valid input.
And I agree that the staff animations are silly. "Look: I got a stick that farts!" But I've never been a fan of playing caster classes...
On the contrary, cosmetics are a big part of the game to me. A large reason why I use crafted armor is because I get to control how my armor looks.
Clearly the point has flown past your head. By importance in terms of game play I was referring to topics that actually affected the running of the game (e.g. game breaking bugs), which are objectively important and valid, not subjective topics like cosmetics vs mechanics.
I would advise the same. Don't create threads in which you don't want to offer, in my opinion, any valid input.
Please, sir, give the list of topics that you deem worthy to discuss? You admit that it is your opinion, but then invalidate other opinions? Then later, you admit that it you agree with the idea but you disagree with how it is presented. Is a new weapon skill not a mechanic? Purely it wouldn't be purely cosmetic?
I am confused, sir. Your point had flown over my head indeed.
I think that I am entirely correct in readdressing, ad nauseum if I wish to spend the time doing so, a previously made point on these forums. Like so many other topics, it is obvious that some would enjoy discussing them further. If you think it is such a waste of time, why are you hijacking the thread with your conflicted points?
Oh wait, since I waited a few weeks to reply, because I did not check them every day for hours at a time, I am obviously necro-ing an old thread. Well the mods will close me down then!
I personally would like this game to become better. Yes, bug fixes would be nice, though I am plagued by only a few and find them not much of a bother. I would also like to see this game fill out and become more sophisticated. More weapon lines would be a significant step and easier to manage than a whole new class.Black-handed Hluill and his daughter Leyek of House Numaril.0 -
Illurian✭✭✭✭✭
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It's funny, because my admission of subjectivity was a direct copy of your admission of subjectivity. If you think that I am invalidating other opinions, perhaps you should take a good look at yourself.Please, sir, give the list of topics that you deem worthy to discuss? You admit that it is your opinion, but then invalidate other opinions?
Talking about cosmetics was a point on subjectivity, which did not hold any implications that the skill line in question was purely cosmetic.Then later, you admit that it you agree with the idea but you disagree with how it is presented. Is a new weapon skill not a mechanic? Purely it wouldn't be purely cosmetic?
It would seem that several points have flown over your head.I am confused, sir. Your point had flown over my head indeed.
Just as you feel entitled to readdressing your points, I bear the same entitlement to readdress mine, do I not?I think that I am entirely correct in readdressing, ad nauseum if I wish to spend the time doing so, a previously made point on these forums. Like so many other topics, it is obvious that some would enjoy discussing them further. If you think it is such a waste of time, why are you hijacking the thread with your conflicted points?
Simply stating that my points are conflicted does not make them so.Oh wait, since I waited a few weeks to reply, because I did not check them every day for hours at a time, I am obviously necro-ing an old thread. Well the mods will close me down then!
I personally would like this game to become better. Yes, bug fixes would be nice, though I am plagued by only a few and find them not much of a bother. I would also like to see this game fill out and become more sophisticated. More weapon lines would be a significant step and easier to manage than a whole new class.
Like I said, I am not against the idea of a new skill line at all. But your post has had no substance whatsoever except "I want a 1 handed skill line". You briefly mentioned some grappling techniques, but failed to mention how that would be recognized in game. Would it be a channeled stun? Can it be broken out of? What would entail? Mechanics? Animations? Anything of substance?
If you had bothered to bring up any intellectual, significant, constructive ideas that held any semblance of substance, I would have been happy to participate in proper discussion about your ideas. But you failed miserably in that regard.Edited by Illurian on 13 September 2017 09:19Kiss the chaos.0 -
Joffi✭✭✭
I'm an old, worn out retired soldier who was arguing nitpicks on the internet when the percentage of forums outnumbered the pron. I tend to be more whimsically scant these days.
In my one line, I used sarcasm in a childish voice to convey the irony of the situation where a topic was alive with comments, yet some of those making many of the comments was also childishly attacking the comments of the others, all the while, and with others, complaining that all commentary should have been made back in the time of any previous threads.
This continued thereafter.
The literary irony... it burns.
This, as with many other comments in this thread, are not constructive to the wonderful conceptual spitballing going on in the rest of it and fully expect it to be deleted. I beg the one handed topic participants their pardon.Edited by Joffi on 13 September 2017 21:10"Bah... This is not the way... "
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Tempora Jof, Daggerfall Covenant, Breton, Sorcerer, Vampire: "Being good is hard..."
Jurfi da Nord, Aldmeri Dominion, Nord,Warden, Vampire: "Serving my own needs is easy."
Randal the Second, Ebonheart Pact, Dark Elf, Dragonknight: "I refuse to feel the ex-slaver guilt I have."
Inos sal'Ma'Nefic, Aldmeri Dominion, Imperial, Templar: "Heals by accident count, eh? Eh?"
Desdenada Jof, Ebonheart Pact, High Elf, Sorcerer: "Righteousness is its own edict."
Joffi da Rat, Aldmeri Dominion, Wood Elf, Nightblade: "Bah, this is not the way..."
Indigo sal'Ma'Nefic, Daggerfall Covenant, Redguard, Dragonknight: "For glory!"1
