One shots

mike.eso · January 2016

Jhunn wrote: »

I don't believe people are defending camo hunter one-shotting from sneak. It's cancer to this game and has nothing to do with PvP.

Lol

Vangy · January 2016

Mikmak wrote: »

Jhunn wrote: »

I don't believe people are defending camo hunter one-shotting from sneak. It's cancer to this game and has nothing to do with PvP.

Lol

Double lol. The tears in this thread are so sweet.

joe.smith21b14_ESO · January 2016

Mikmak wrote: »

Jhunn wrote: »

I don't believe people are defending camo hunter one-shotting from sneak. It's cancer to this game and has nothing to do with PvP.

Lol

Vangy wrote: »

Mikmak wrote: »

Jhunn wrote: »

I don't believe people are defending camo hunter one-shotting from sneak. It's cancer to this game and has nothing to do with PvP.

Lol

Double lol. The tears in this thread are so sweet.

I love the salt makes my day every day only reason I play this game.
-Smiff

GreenSoup2HoT · January 2016

joe.smith21b14_ESO wrote: »

Mikmak wrote: »

Jhunn wrote: »

I don't believe people are defending camo hunter one-shotting from sneak. It's cancer to this game and has nothing to do with PvP.

Lol

Vangy wrote: »

Mikmak wrote: »

Jhunn wrote: »

I don't believe people are defending camo hunter one-shotting from sneak. It's cancer to this game and has nothing to do with PvP.

Lol

Double lol. The tears in this thread are so sweet.

I love the salt makes my day every day only reason I play this game.
-Smiff

I love it too. I love all qq that's unnecessary, make's me smile.

Btw Smiff, i like your build setup. It's unique as hell. You play exactly like me, expect i use dw with the setry set and RML. I also use double take tho. Was nice to see how you used rapid's, i might have to give it a try.

joe.smith21b14_ESO · January 2016

GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »

joe.smith21b14_ESO wrote: »

Mikmak wrote: »

Jhunn wrote: »

I don't believe people are defending camo hunter one-shotting from sneak. It's cancer to this game and has nothing to do with PvP.

Lol

Vangy wrote: »

Mikmak wrote: »

Jhunn wrote: »

I don't believe people are defending camo hunter one-shotting from sneak. It's cancer to this game and has nothing to do with PvP.

Lol

Double lol. The tears in this thread are so sweet.

I love the salt makes my day every day only reason I play this game.
-Smiff

I love it too. I love all qq that's unnecessary, make's me smile.

Btw Smiff, i like your build setup. It's unique as hell. You play exactly like me, expect i use dw with the setry set and RML. I also use double take tho. Was nice to see how you used rapid's, i might have to give it a try.

Thanks bud snare free since 93.
-Smiff

Akinos · January 2016

Vangy wrote: »

Akinos wrote: »

Vangy wrote: »

Wow some people here just don't get it lol.

One shots are only possible on vamps that meet these "requirements"

1. 0 heavy
2. Under 25 k health
3. No shields up
4. 0 impen traits
5. Not enough cp in hardy/crit resist
6. Don't slot rml

If ur a vamp who make sure u don't do at least 2 of the things above, one shots should be very rare.

Instead we have people who Wah Wah I want to wear 7 pieces in light or medium divines/infused, put 64 points into stam/magicka, not slot rml, not have shields up, play a full Dps build and not get one shot Wah Wah.

Guess what. You will get one shot and I will drink ur tears until you cure vamp or learn to modify your build.

Edit: also news flash: if you aren't a vamp and don't take said precautions you will also get one shot. The difference being ur death recap will read x2 snipe instead of x2 camo proc.

We got ourselves another 1 shot kid that didn't read the whole thread. Multiple people have already stated, including myself that people with 25k+ hp, 2k impen, 25% resistance, 1 heavy or 5 heavy with shields are still getting 1 shot. Being forced to run radiant magelight on both bars to counter a completely busted skill thats not working as intended is bullsh*t and everybody knows it.

Here's an example of this nonsense:

In this screenshot I had just respawned from being insta killed by a stealthed stam dk who did 31k damage to me which is overkill considering I had 29.3k hp. Keep in mind this is through 25% into crit resistance CP and 1750 Impen and about 12-20k physical resist, depening on channeled focus being active or not.

Also, you guys know that bug where you can't basic attack or block after you die? Yeah, that bug is associated with how fast you die, it has something to do with how much damage you take just before death, whether you get zerged and die instantly or if you get 1 shot by a single player. Not sure if that's the exact cause but i have to reload ui any time I get zerged and die instantly or i get 1 shot. Vamp or not. And I'm not the only player that has experienced this bug. It doesn't seem to happen when I get whittled down slowly either. Only insta gibs.

Not only is killing somebody in one shot unbalanced, it's also gamebreaking, literally.

And here folks we have a prime example of a Wah Wah kid who cries but has no clue what is happening!

Here let me help u. Out of the 31k damage u took;
Only 7.2 k came from camo hunter.

Wanna take a Guess at what killed you? Let me break it down for u.

Dk in stealth. Take one second to cast rally. Take one second to cast molten armaments. Spend 2 seconds charging heavy Attack. Animation cancel heavy Attack with silver shards. This did 23k+ damage to you and it should.

Why?

while someone spent around 5 seconds charging and buffing a full Wombo combo, u were sitting around pickin daisies. This is pvp. Keep moving. Or u will die.

Also this just points out nothing is wrong with camo hunter. All the player had to do was follow up that combo with another silver shards animation canceled with block and you'd be dead even with no camo hunter. If you want stealth damage looked into sure I can agree with that. But 80% of this thread is nerf camo hunter so naturally I tended to defend poor camo hunter which already has been nerfed.

ALSO, said player got really luck and scored 3 crits on u. Normally this wouldn't happen unless someone is running an insane mega crit build. And in a game where frags/Wb/snipes hit for 12-16k when player healths are in the range of 18-25k.... I don't see how it is mathematically not possible to 1-2 shot someone....

People still get one shot with or without camo hunter and with or without being vampire. The thread is titled ONE SHOTS. Which is what people don't want happening. Has NOTHING to do with the skills used to one shot somebody. It doesn't matter how it happens. One shots shouldn't happen regardless of the skills used.

Jhunn · January 2016

Haha. Call it tears or whatever you want, but it's the most skillless thing to do and I'm amazed you people don't die of boredom.

Waffennacht · January 2016

If I one shot an opponent it's because he is that much weaker, the level of power high enough to one shot a weak opponent is the same amount necessary to be competitive against another strong opponent.

Now if you wanna talk about stuns that make it where you cannot respond to three attacks before you're dead that's a different story, but those are not "one shots"

Alferino · January 2016

GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »

Alferino wrote: »

I just wanted to inform anyone else who doesn't realize what is the topic at hand in this thread.

"OP" get's killed by an instant gank. He then goes on to the forum's and post's this death re-cap.

What you need to take into account:

-There are two player's here.
-The death re-cap is broken showing inaccurate value's for the second player.
-"OP" is using no mean's of preventing this from happening by mitigating the damage in CP tree's or using the counter to stealth damage "Radiant Mage Light".
-The camouflage Hunter proc's were done with a Melee Weapon. If it was a Bow you would see a bow emblem, the emblem change's based on range or melee.

I know many people are going to right away shout out that camo hunter is broken and will one shot a player regardless of these counter's. That is true, however It has been fixed in some scenario's but it has also been mentioned that it is still possible with bow attack's (bow attack's not present in this death re-cap).

So yes, camouflage hunter multi proc's are a problem, however there is no multiple proc's in this death re-cap.

The second camo hunter proc is a death re-cap bug that sum's up all the damage done from that player regardless of the skill's he used. He could of used any combination of skills to kill his target. If the stealth damage proc from camo hunter kill's with the final blow... this bug occurs. Even though you may of been hit with several over abilities as well.

I for one, hit 14k with my camo hunter tooltip. I'm built for crit damage as well so if you take my critical damage modifer into account, I will hit you for 7k none crit and almost 13k critical in pvp (ignoring all other factor's such as armour/cp etc). Camouflage Hunter can still hit very hard and this 11k proc is on the low end.

If i hit someone who had radiant mage light and ton's of critical resistance and CP into hardy I would hit like a noodle. 50% less from RML, 40% less critical damage, 25% less damage from hardy. All this together would make me hit for like under 4k easy. Defiantly preventable.

I see nothing wrong about this death re-cap or "gank" that has happened to the "op". He was ganked by 2 player's which is hard enough on it's own to react and survive. Yet he was hit by a coordinated attack with two people specifically hunting vampire's since they were using silver shard's as well.

This is what happens when the counter to vampire's hit's you.

If player's want to claim this is mulit proc's and get camo hunter fixed by all mean's do it. However I'm sure this isn't mulit proc's.

Please go look at the other screenshots? why dont you post them here again? xD

Vangy · January 2016

Akinos wrote: »

Vangy wrote: »

Akinos wrote: »

Vangy wrote: »

Wow some people here just don't get it lol.

One shots are only possible on vamps that meet these "requirements"

1. 0 heavy
2. Under 25 k health
3. No shields up
4. 0 impen traits
5. Not enough cp in hardy/crit resist
6. Don't slot rml

If ur a vamp who make sure u don't do at least 2 of the things above, one shots should be very rare.

Instead we have people who Wah Wah I want to wear 7 pieces in light or medium divines/infused, put 64 points into stam/magicka, not slot rml, not have shields up, play a full Dps build and not get one shot Wah Wah.

Guess what. You will get one shot and I will drink ur tears until you cure vamp or learn to modify your build.

Edit: also news flash: if you aren't a vamp and don't take said precautions you will also get one shot. The difference being ur death recap will read x2 snipe instead of x2 camo proc.

We got ourselves another 1 shot kid that didn't read the whole thread. Multiple people have already stated, including myself that people with 25k+ hp, 2k impen, 25% resistance, 1 heavy or 5 heavy with shields are still getting 1 shot. Being forced to run radiant magelight on both bars to counter a completely busted skill thats not working as intended is bullsh*t and everybody knows it.

Here's an example of this nonsense:

In this screenshot I had just respawned from being insta killed by a stealthed stam dk who did 31k damage to me which is overkill considering I had 29.3k hp. Keep in mind this is through 25% into crit resistance CP and 1750 Impen and about 12-20k physical resist, depening on channeled focus being active or not.

Also, you guys know that bug where you can't basic attack or block after you die? Yeah, that bug is associated with how fast you die, it has something to do with how much damage you take just before death, whether you get zerged and die instantly or if you get 1 shot by a single player. Not sure if that's the exact cause but i have to reload ui any time I get zerged and die instantly or i get 1 shot. Vamp or not. And I'm not the only player that has experienced this bug. It doesn't seem to happen when I get whittled down slowly either. Only insta gibs.

Not only is killing somebody in one shot unbalanced, it's also gamebreaking, literally.

And here folks we have a prime example of a Wah Wah kid who cries but has no clue what is happening!

Here let me help u. Out of the 31k damage u took;
Only 7.2 k came from camo hunter.

Wanna take a Guess at what killed you? Let me break it down for u.

Dk in stealth. Take one second to cast rally. Take one second to cast molten armaments. Spend 2 seconds charging heavy Attack. Animation cancel heavy Attack with silver shards. This did 23k+ damage to you and it should.

Why?

while someone spent around 5 seconds charging and buffing a full Wombo combo, u were sitting around pickin daisies. This is pvp. Keep moving. Or u will die.

Also this just points out nothing is wrong with camo hunter. All the player had to do was follow up that combo with another silver shards animation canceled with block and you'd be dead even with no camo hunter. If you want stealth damage looked into sure I can agree with that. But 80% of this thread is nerf camo hunter so naturally I tended to defend poor camo hunter which already has been nerfed.

ALSO, said player got really luck and scored 3 crits on u. Normally this wouldn't happen unless someone is running an insane mega crit build. And in a game where frags/Wb/snipes hit for 12-16k when player healths are in the range of 18-25k.... I don't see how it is mathematically not possible to 1-2 shot someone....

People still get one shot with or without camo hunter and with or without being vampire. The thread is titled ONE SHOTS. Which is what people don't want happening. Has NOTHING to do with the skills used to one shot somebody. It doesn't matter how it happens. One shots shouldn't happen regardless of the skills used.

In other words u want main Dps skills like shards and Wb to hit in the range of 5k, or you want animation cancelling gone. Either way, zos will take about 2 years to make a change such as that. People can't have 20k health and skills be hitting for 15k. That's literally a 2 shot. With AC it can all land in 1 second making it a seeming 1 shot.

Alferino · January 2016

Vangy wrote: »

Akinos wrote: »

Vangy wrote: »

Akinos wrote: »

Vangy wrote: »

Wow some people here just don't get it lol.

One shots are only possible on vamps that meet these "requirements"

1. 0 heavy
2. Under 25 k health
3. No shields up
4. 0 impen traits
5. Not enough cp in hardy/crit resist
6. Don't slot rml

If ur a vamp who make sure u don't do at least 2 of the things above, one shots should be very rare.

Instead we have people who Wah Wah I want to wear 7 pieces in light or medium divines/infused, put 64 points into stam/magicka, not slot rml, not have shields up, play a full Dps build and not get one shot Wah Wah.

Guess what. You will get one shot and I will drink ur tears until you cure vamp or learn to modify your build.

Edit: also news flash: if you aren't a vamp and don't take said precautions you will also get one shot. The difference being ur death recap will read x2 snipe instead of x2 camo proc.

We got ourselves another 1 shot kid that didn't read the whole thread. Multiple people have already stated, including myself that people with 25k+ hp, 2k impen, 25% resistance, 1 heavy or 5 heavy with shields are still getting 1 shot. Being forced to run radiant magelight on both bars to counter a completely busted skill thats not working as intended is bullsh*t and everybody knows it.

Here's an example of this nonsense:

In this screenshot I had just respawned from being insta killed by a stealthed stam dk who did 31k damage to me which is overkill considering I had 29.3k hp. Keep in mind this is through 25% into crit resistance CP and 1750 Impen and about 12-20k physical resist, depening on channeled focus being active or not.

Also, you guys know that bug where you can't basic attack or block after you die? Yeah, that bug is associated with how fast you die, it has something to do with how much damage you take just before death, whether you get zerged and die instantly or if you get 1 shot by a single player. Not sure if that's the exact cause but i have to reload ui any time I get zerged and die instantly or i get 1 shot. Vamp or not. And I'm not the only player that has experienced this bug. It doesn't seem to happen when I get whittled down slowly either. Only insta gibs.

Not only is killing somebody in one shot unbalanced, it's also gamebreaking, literally.

And here folks we have a prime example of a Wah Wah kid who cries but has no clue what is happening!

Here let me help u. Out of the 31k damage u took;
Only 7.2 k came from camo hunter.

Wanna take a Guess at what killed you? Let me break it down for u.

Dk in stealth. Take one second to cast rally. Take one second to cast molten armaments. Spend 2 seconds charging heavy Attack. Animation cancel heavy Attack with silver shards. This did 23k+ damage to you and it should.

Why?

while someone spent around 5 seconds charging and buffing a full Wombo combo, u were sitting around pickin daisies. This is pvp. Keep moving. Or u will die.

Also this just points out nothing is wrong with camo hunter. All the player had to do was follow up that combo with another silver shards animation canceled with block and you'd be dead even with no camo hunter. If you want stealth damage looked into sure I can agree with that. But 80% of this thread is nerf camo hunter so naturally I tended to defend poor camo hunter which already has been nerfed.

ALSO, said player got really luck and scored 3 crits on u. Normally this wouldn't happen unless someone is running an insane mega crit build. And in a game where frags/Wb/snipes hit for 12-16k when player healths are in the range of 18-25k.... I don't see how it is mathematically not possible to 1-2 shot someone....

People still get one shot with or without camo hunter and with or without being vampire. The thread is titled ONE SHOTS. Which is what people don't want happening. Has NOTHING to do with the skills used to one shot somebody. It doesn't matter how it happens. One shots shouldn't happen regardless of the skills used.

In other words u want main Dps skills like shards and Wb to hit in the range of 5k, or you want animation cancelling gone. Either way, zos will take about 2 years to make a change such as that. People can't have 20k health and skills be hitting for 15k. That's literally a 2 shot. With AC it can all land in 1 second making it a seeming 1 shot.

Your totally going off subject, we are talking about 1shots that can not be countered and dont involve hitting you twice
If you cant avoid a wrecking blow then idk... but we arent talking about that, please stay on topic

Vangy · January 2016

@GreenSoup2HoT < this man took the time to write a whole damn essay on how to counter one shots such as camo hunter. The least we can do is read it and not keep whining about no counters? Please?

Cody · January 2016

TheDarkShadow wrote: »

I see this guy literally keep 2 shotting people back to back. He don't even need ulti like DK to ignore armor, don't even need to be in stealth, don't need Expert Hunter, don't need heavy/light weaving, don't need Poison arrow. Literally press 1 button, and 2 shot people. While the 1st snipe is still flying, he's already charging half way thru the 2'nd snipe + the lag so it leave you very little time to re-act. And no, he's not an Emp. This is why we need soft cap.

indeed. if softcaps were-reinstated we would see a drastic reduction in the number of these absurd 12Kish attacks. They would still be doable, but would take A LOT of dedication into weapon damage to the point every other stat would heavily suffer.

MrGigglypants · January 2016

Alferino wrote: »

I mean, common, correct me if im wrong.. but this is just so annoying, when 2 guys run around in a group and do this god dam combo to 1shot someone, maybe its because im vamp, maybe its the skill, nurf it or buff vamp so we dont get killed in less than half a seccond without ANY counter at all to it
i can take 2 crystal frags and stay alive sometimes, but this combo right here NEVER fails to kill me straight away
fix, or, buff, vamps, please

That 2 people what do you expect I've been hit by 15k frags this patch dunno if your taking 2 of those

1Grumpy_dunmer1 · January 2016

I'm getting one shot with a bow that double procs camo hunter with 25k health. Lame game my friend it's getting tougher to like this game everyday. Bugs bugs bugs glitch Blue screen lag broken abilities and mechanics bug lag blue screen glitch lag lag blue screen bug glitch lag blue screen. Just another day of eso I suppose

Alferino · January 2016

Vangy wrote: »

@GreenSoup2HoT < this man took the time to write a whole damn essay on how to counter one shots such as camo hunter. The least we can do is read it and not keep whining about no counters? Please?

Go, go read it all, and please come back with EXACTLY how a vampire with 25k health stops silver bolt proced with camo hunter from being 1shot, i want the exact details please, untill then dont bother typing again

1Grumpy_dunmer1 · January 2016

Alferino wrote: »

Vangy wrote: »

@GreenSoup2HoT < this man took the time to write a whole damn essay on how to counter one shots such as camo hunter. The least we can do is read it and not keep whining about no counters? Please?

Go, go read it all, and please come back with EXACTLY how a vampire with 25k health stops silver bolt proced with camo hunter from being 1shot, i want the exact details please, untill then dont bother typing again

I would also like to obtain such information.

GreenSoup2HoT · January 2016

lol. For what's it's worth, here's some information.

Patch 2.2.10

Camouflaged Hunter: Continued to fix additional issues where this ability could proc multiple times when hitting with a dual wield heavy attack. We will have this fully addressed in a future patch.

Patch 2.2.9

Camouflage Hunter: Fixed an issue where the stealth damage proc would occur multiple times in specific circumstances.

Camouflage hunter Multi proc's are going to get fixed for good (let's hope at least). You will no longer need to complain about 1 player "one shot'ing" you.

Hopefully you take my advice into consideration @Alferino and not get insta gibbed by two man camo hunter team's. It's still going to be the vamp killer. I'm actually betting good player's could put any vamp down almost instantly with a good rotation if the vampire doesn't have the counter's in their build.

Hopefully my previous comment on how to counter camouflage hunter will assist you in the future once mulit proc's are fixed!

MancandyMcDong · January 2016

My arrows still one-shot those poor undead souls. Maybe you shouldn't be an abomination to begin with...

...I do God's work

leepalmer95 · January 2016

GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »

lol. For what's it's worth, here's some information.

Patch 2.2.10

Camouflaged Hunter: Continued to fix additional issues where this ability could proc multiple times when hitting with a dual wield heavy attack. We will have this fully addressed in a future patch.

Patch 2.2.9

Camouflage Hunter: Fixed an issue where the stealth damage proc would occur multiple times in specific circumstances.

Camouflage hunter Multi proc's are going to get fixed for good (let's hope at least). You will no longer need to complain about 1 player "one shot'ing" you.

Hopefully you take my advice into consideration @Alferino and not get insta gibbed by two man camo hunter team's. It's still going to be the vamp killer. I'm actually betting good player's could put any vamp down almost instantly with a good rotation if the vampire doesn't have the counter's in their build.

Hopefully my previous comment on how to counter camouflage hunter will assist you in the future once mulit proc's are fixed!

Don't get your hopes too high with camo being fixed, the last patch was what their 3rd attempt?

SirDopey · February 2016

Mikmak wrote: »

imredneckson wrote: »

Mikmak wrote: »

Lol really? How often or how many times in a given night are people actually getting killed by a "one shot" or a quick combo of skills?

Just cause y'all don't agree with a different play style and this particular one seems to frustrate the hell outta ya doesn't mean it's any less valid then whatever it is y'all do.

In terms of camo being bugged, who the hell cares? There are literally too many to keep track of and its been like this forever it ain't gettin fixed any time soon. I'm also willing to bet almost all of you run some aort of bugged skill or equipment or something. Reverb? Axe? Endurance/agility? 2 piece Kena? I could go on on.

If you are constantly gettin killed like this then you either have some adjustments to make or you're being stubborn and not willing to change anything.

Shout out to Smiff and Asian Mayhem y'all have gotten some good shots on me the past week.

https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?ui=2&ik=4a8d3b1ea5&view=att&th=1523a0d4e854a7d8&attid=0.1&disp=safe&realattid=f_ijcjx4930&zw

Dude you cannot adjust you build enough to combat against getting hit by 34k damage in one second and dropping.

Edit: Tell me if the link works or not Ive tried using them before and had them not work

Link didn't work.

Hahaha One Shots are the best, when I'm raging I jump into the sewers on my NB and go one shot people to make myself feel better.

On a serious note, without double proc'ing camo hunter (anti exploiter so even though I know I can, I don't) my initial stealth attack and follow up hit the average person for between 25 - 30K. I tested this against my mate who was wearing 7/7 impen n Heavy Armor and I could pull a maximum of 14k damage before he was able to break CC.

So, yeah, there are counters.

Whatzituyah · February 2016

leepalmer95 wrote: »

GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »

lol. For what's it's worth, here's some information.

Patch 2.2.10

Camouflaged Hunter: Continued to fix additional issues where this ability could proc multiple times when hitting with a dual wield heavy attack. We will have this fully addressed in a future patch.

Patch 2.2.9

Camouflage Hunter: Fixed an issue where the stealth damage proc would occur multiple times in specific circumstances.

Camouflage hunter Multi proc's are going to get fixed for good (let's hope at least). You will no longer need to complain about 1 player "one shot'ing" you.

Hopefully you take my advice into consideration @Alferino and not get insta gibbed by two man camo hunter team's. It's still going to be the vamp killer. I'm actually betting good player's could put any vamp down almost instantly with a good rotation if the vampire doesn't have the counter's in their build.

Hopefully my previous comment on how to counter camouflage hunter will assist you in the future once mulit proc's are fixed!

Don't get your hopes too high with camo being fixed, the last patch was what their 3rd attempt?

If thet can't fix it they will probably replace it with a different skill removing it frome the game entirely.