One shots

mike.eso · January 2016

imredneckson wrote: »

Mikmak wrote: »

Lol really? How often or how many times in a given night are people actually getting killed by a "one shot" or a quick combo of skills?

Just cause y'all don't agree with a different play style and this particular one seems to frustrate the hell outta ya doesn't mean it's any less valid then whatever it is y'all do.

In terms of camo being bugged, who the hell cares? There are literally too many to keep track of and its been like this forever it ain't gettin fixed any time soon. I'm also willing to bet almost all of you run some aort of bugged skill or equipment or something. Reverb? Axe? Endurance/agility? 2 piece Kena? I could go on on.

If you are constantly gettin killed like this then you either have some adjustments to make or you're being stubborn and not willing to change anything.

Shout out to Smiff and Asian Mayhem y'all have gotten some good shots on me the past week.

https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?ui=2&ik=4a8d3b1ea5&view=att&th=1523a0d4e854a7d8&attid=0.1&disp=safe&realattid=f_ijcjx4930&zw

Dude you cannot adjust you build enough to combat against getting hit by 34k damage in one second and dropping.

Edit: Tell me if the link works or not Ive tried using them before and had them not work

Link didn't work.

mike.eso · January 2016

Angus wrote: »

I play some vamp toons in light armor, so have felt some of your pain. But...

Alferino wrote: »

no, im not going to use RML on a stam build,

Then you need a different counter, better positioning/awareness, or accept the tradeoff.

Alferino wrote: »

vamps are not meant to run around in stealth 24/7 at all

We've got an awesome passive that means we can, and be fast too. If you don't want to be seen and killed on a squishy build, taking advantage of that is pretty damn useful.

Alferino wrote: »

if i where to run ALOT of health and heavy armor to be more tanky, id clearly miss out on alot of stats and wouldnt be as effective at all

Much like how your killers miss out on stats, bar skill slots, and become much less effective at other things as a tradeoff to be able to burst vampires like you.

Alferino wrote: »

im yet to find a counter that stops this cheesy stuff from happening

There's been plenty of suggestions in this thread, and IMHO you shouldn't even be able to counter it. The people killing you are running the counter of your build - rock paper scissors would be a lot less interesting if paper could kill both scissors and rock.

Alferino wrote: »

dont got what it takes lolol sorry im not pro, teach me how to play?

I think he was trying to with his suggestions. I don't think you want to learn.

Awesome responses Angus.

imredneckson · January 2016

Mikmak wrote: »

imredneckson wrote: »

Mikmak wrote: »

Lol really? How often or how many times in a given night are people actually getting killed by a "one shot" or a quick combo of skills?

Just cause y'all don't agree with a different play style and this particular one seems to frustrate the hell outta ya doesn't mean it's any less valid then whatever it is y'all do.

In terms of camo being bugged, who the hell cares? There are literally too many to keep track of and its been like this forever it ain't gettin fixed any time soon. I'm also willing to bet almost all of you run some aort of bugged skill or equipment or something. Reverb? Axe? Endurance/agility? 2 piece Kena? I could go on on.

If you are constantly gettin killed like this then you either have some adjustments to make or you're being stubborn and not willing to change anything.

Shout out to Smiff and Asian Mayhem y'all have gotten some good shots on me the past week.

https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?ui=2&ik=4a8d3b1ea5&view=att&th=1523a0d4e854a7d8&attid=0.1&disp=safe&realattid=f_ijcjx4930&zw

Dude you cannot adjust you build enough to combat against getting hit by 34k damage in one second and dropping.

Edit: Tell me if the link works or not Ive tried using them before and had them not work

Link didn't work.

Try this one
http://orig05.deviantart.net/7ecd/f/2016/013/b/f/you_***_kill_by_eso_picture-d9nrz0q.png

catalyst10e · January 2016

I feel for you, I really do, no move should totally 1-shot kill an opponent. Technically you weren't 1shot-ed, looking at the screen shot shows there were 2 people, and neither did a 1shot kill damage, one of them just did about half damage which I'd expect from a vampire hunter attacking a vampire. You've chosen to be a Vampire, and they have chosen to be a Vampire hunter, You've both played your rolls. Anyone who feels vamps (and werewolves) are enough of a problem that it warrants taking up a slot on their bar just to deal with them, deserves to do some serious damage to them. I get killed plenty by swarm, but I'm not in here demanding nerfs... I say WAI

mike.eso · January 2016

imredneckson wrote: »

Mikmak wrote: »

imredneckson wrote: »

Mikmak wrote: »

Lol really? How often or how many times in a given night are people actually getting killed by a "one shot" or a quick combo of skills?

Just cause y'all don't agree with a different play style and this particular one seems to frustrate the hell outta ya doesn't mean it's any less valid then whatever it is y'all do.

In terms of camo being bugged, who the hell cares? There are literally too many to keep track of and its been like this forever it ain't gettin fixed any time soon. I'm also willing to bet almost all of you run some aort of bugged skill or equipment or something. Reverb? Axe? Endurance/agility? 2 piece Kena? I could go on on.

If you are constantly gettin killed like this then you either have some adjustments to make or you're being stubborn and not willing to change anything.

Shout out to Smiff and Asian Mayhem y'all have gotten some good shots on me the past week.

https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?ui=2&ik=4a8d3b1ea5&view=att&th=1523a0d4e854a7d8&attid=0.1&disp=safe&realattid=f_ijcjx4930&zw

Dude you cannot adjust you build enough to combat against getting hit by 34k damage in one second and dropping.

Edit: Tell me if the link works or not Ive tried using them before and had them not work

Link didn't work.

Try this one
http://orig05.deviantart.net/7ecd/f/2016/013/b/f/you_***_kill_by_eso_picture-d9nrz0q.png

Yup that worked.

So yes 34k is a good amount of dmg in 1s, however you have to understand that the 34k is as much a reflection of your group mates build as it is his targets build. If someone is running around with no resistance to dmg or no resistance to crit you can achieve higher numbers than that but you wont pull those numbers on someone else who is built to resist those things. You can build to combat that type of dmg.

With that said I get what you're saying though, you group mate's target wouldn't have to just make adjustments to counter that he's need a whole new set up if he wants to live through that. But like the guys before me have said, at some point you have to make trade offs, you cant have everything.

When I run a gank setup I'm super squishy. If I get caught and more than a couple start chasing, its pretty much over unless I can LOS, which isn't something you build for. To get dmg up that high so you can stealth attack, which means no procs, you have to give up a lot of regen/sustain, but

imredneckson · January 2016

Mikmak wrote: »

imredneckson wrote: »

Mikmak wrote: »

imredneckson wrote: »

Mikmak wrote: »

Lol really? How often or how many times in a given night are people actually getting killed by a "one shot" or a quick combo of skills?

Just cause y'all don't agree with a different play style and this particular one seems to frustrate the hell outta ya doesn't mean it's any less valid then whatever it is y'all do.

In terms of camo being bugged, who the hell cares? There are literally too many to keep track of and its been like this forever it ain't gettin fixed any time soon. I'm also willing to bet almost all of you run some aort of bugged skill or equipment or something. Reverb? Axe? Endurance/agility? 2 piece Kena? I could go on on.

If you are constantly gettin killed like this then you either have some adjustments to make or you're being stubborn and not willing to change anything.

Shout out to Smiff and Asian Mayhem y'all have gotten some good shots on me the past week.

https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?ui=2&ik=4a8d3b1ea5&view=att&th=1523a0d4e854a7d8&attid=0.1&disp=safe&realattid=f_ijcjx4930&zw

Dude you cannot adjust you build enough to combat against getting hit by 34k damage in one second and dropping.

Edit: Tell me if the link works or not Ive tried using them before and had them not work

Link didn't work.

Try this one
http://orig05.deviantart.net/7ecd/f/2016/013/b/f/you_***_kill_by_eso_picture-d9nrz0q.png

Yup that worked.

So yes 34k is a good amount of dmg in 1s, however you have to understand that the 34k is as much a reflection of your group mates build as it is his targets build. If someone is running around with no resistance to dmg or no resistance to crit you can achieve higher numbers than that but you wont pull those numbers on someone else who is built to resist those things. You can build to combat that type of dmg.

With that said I get what you're saying though, you group mate's target wouldn't have to just make adjustments to counter that he's need a whole new set up if he wants to live through that. But like the guys before me have said, at some point you have to make trade offs, you cant have everything.

When I run a gank setup I'm super squishy. If I get caught and more than a couple start chasing, its pretty much over unless I can LOS, which isn't something you build for. To get dmg up that high so you can stealth attack, which means no procs, you have to give up a lot of regen/sustain, but

Yes my build doesn't have any kind of defense what so ever if I want to add a little more protection though I would have two pieces of heavy on and have volatile armor equipped onto my second bar. If I get caught where I'm being chased by a few enemies ill roll out on my primary bar (bow) and speed away if that still doesn't work ill pop and invisibility pot and then make my escape. For the sustain problem though I think I could solve that with a new Orcinium max stat and recovery provision but I haven't gotten around to that yet ill have to make a note to do it later.

joe.smith21b14_ESO · January 2016

Mikmak wrote: »

Lol really? How often or how many times in a given night are people actually getting killed by a "one shot" or a quick combo of skills?

Just cause y'all don't agree with a different play style and this particular one seems to frustrate the hell outta ya doesn't mean it's any less valid then whatever it is y'all do.

In terms of camo being bugged, who the hell cares? There are literally too many to keep track of and its been like this forever it ain't gettin fixed any time soon. I'm also willing to bet almost all of you run some aort of bugged skill or equipment or something. Reverb? Axe? Endurance/agility? 2 piece Kena? I could go on on.

If you are constantly gettin killed like this then you either have some adjustments to make or you're being stubborn and not willing to change anything.

Shout out to Smiff and Asian Mayhem y'all have gotten some good shots on me the past week.

Thanks bruh

Therium104 · January 2016

One shots are death to these games. This is unacceptable vampire or not. It needs to end.

joe.smith21b14_ESO · January 2016

Therium104 wrote: »

One shots are death to these games. This is unacceptable vampire or not. It needs to end.

Does it though?

SirDopey · January 2016

Therium104 wrote: »

One shots are death to these games. This is unacceptable vampire or not. It needs to end.

Why??? If people want to invest their time into glass cannons they should be able to. If they get rid of massive burst damage then you'll have unkillable tanky players, it's called balance. Everyone is calling for a counter to camp hunter, it already exists in the form of a cure and impenetrable armour. If you want to be a vamp running around in light armour, this is the price we pay.....

LegendaryChef · January 2016

2 people to Gank a vampire?

They should be the ones QQing lol when my NB was full damage I could sometimes kill a vampire with just a heavy bow attack and camo proc! Weaklings!

Therium104 · January 2016

SirDopey wrote: »

Therium104 wrote: »

One shots are death to these games. This is unacceptable vampire or not. It needs to end.

Why??? If people want to invest their time into glass cannons they should be able to. If they get rid of massive burst damage then you'll have unkillable tanky players, it's called balance. Everyone is calling for a counter to camp hunter, it already exists in the form of a cure and impenetrable armour. If you want to be a vamp running around in light armour, this is the price we pay.....

One shots are not good pvp. Killing a player so fast they cannot react is not even compeitive. This should not even exist in the game. Also, NB and stealth diminishes the skill cap even further in regards to this level of damage. It is not defensible so not sure why you are trying. Some things are just common sense.

imredneckson · January 2016

Therium104 wrote: »

SirDopey wrote: »

Therium104 wrote: »

One shots are death to these games. This is unacceptable vampire or not. It needs to end.

Why??? If people want to invest their time into glass cannons they should be able to. If they get rid of massive burst damage then you'll have unkillable tanky players, it's called balance. Everyone is calling for a counter to camp hunter, it already exists in the form of a cure and impenetrable armour. If you want to be a vamp running around in light armour, this is the price we pay.....

One shots are not good pvp. Killing a player so fast they cannot react is not even compeitive. This should not even exist in the game. Also, NB and stealth diminishes the skill cap even further in regards to this level of damage. It is not defensible so not sure why you are trying. Some things are just common sense.

If they can revive magicka DKs I will drop my one second killer until then the snipings will continue until DKs are improved.

Alferino · January 2016

SirDopey wrote: »

Therium104 wrote: »

One shots are death to these games. This is unacceptable vampire or not. It needs to end.

Why??? If people want to invest their time into glass cannons they should be able to. If they get rid of massive burst damage then you'll have unkillable tanky players, it's called balance. Everyone is calling for a counter to camp hunter, it already exists in the form of a cure and impenetrable armour. If you want to be a vamp running around in light armour, this is the price we pay.....

I do run inpen, i have 1500 crit ressitance, this is not running a glass cannon build, this is using a broken skill to ruin vamps... theres a big difference

Vangy · January 2016

......

My dk has a gank build and an open world pvp build. My gank build has 4.5k weapon damage, 41k stamina and around 16k health unbuffed with 800 stam regen lol. This build is designed for one and only purpose. Drink.... Vamp.... Tears.... Especially those 7/7 light armor, I'm gona stack 64 points into magicka, and use all divines vamps. With or without rml if I see ur vamp and ur running a build such as above; I have news for you. You're literally a walking ap bag served up on a golden platter. Hell I don't even see your character nameplate. All I see is "ap come get some". I will find you and pop your cherry. Becoz my build is designed to eat your build alive. So no.

Bear in mind the trade off I am making is that my gank build relies on not being seen too. If any half decent player catches me not in stealth I'm dead. Cos 800 stam regen and 20k hp in cyro.

You as a vamp get awesome batswarm and stealth move speed. The trade off you make is that ur running a full Dps build just like me but you want to be able to strut around cyro picking daisies and going lalalala and want no one to kill you. Nope.
Not gona happen.

Take my legit open world build for example. 5 heavy 1 medium 1 light. 28k buffed hp. 5 pieces impen the rest in divines. 2200 stam regen with engin Guardian + 400 cp. You think a ganker can dream of killing me? Maybe if he has 2 buddies who all combo wombo cc me to death. Other than that, nbs don't even bother getting near me cos they take one look at my armor and health total and run the other way.

In short, don't roll a 7/7 light armor vamp with no rml and 40k magicka. This is a ganking set up. Ever seen a vamp magblade cloak in with proxy det armed with a lotus fan into batswarm opening? They are capable of wiping entire zergs with 2-5 players doing this. You either do this, or stop trying to play a gank set up in open world pvp with no care or regard for positioning.

Alferino · January 2016

Vangy wrote: »

......

My dk has a gank build and an open world pvp build. My gank build has 4.5k weapon damage, 41k stamina and around 16k health unbuffed with 800 stam regen lol. This build is designed for one and only purpose. Drink.... Vamp.... Tears.... Especially those 7/7 light armor, I'm gona stack 64 points into magicka, and use all divines vamps. With or without rml if I see ur vamp and ur running a build such as above; I have news for you. You're literally a walking ap bag served up on a golden platter. Hell I don't even see your character nameplate. All I see is "ap come get some". I will find you and pop your cherry. Becoz my build is designed to eat your build alive. So no.

Bear in mind the trade off I am making is that my gank build relies on not being seen too. If any half decent player catches me not in stealth I'm dead. Cos 800 stam regen and 20k hp in cyro.

You as a vamp get awesome batswarm and stealth move speed. The trade off you make is that ur running a full Dps build just like me but you want to be able to strut around cyro picking daisies and going lalalala and want no one to kill you. Nope.
Not gona happen.

Take my legit open world build for example. 5 heavy 1 medium 1 light. 28k buffed hp. 5 pieces impen the rest in divines. 2200 stam regen with engin Guardian + 400 cp. You think a ganker can dream of killing me? Maybe if he has 2 buddies who all combo wombo cc me to death. Other than that, nbs don't even bother getting near me cos they take one look at my armor and health total and run the other way.

In short, don't roll a 7/7 light armor vamp with no rml and 40k magicka. This is a ganking set up. Ever seen a vamp magblade cloak in with proxy det armed with a lotus fan into batswarm opening? They are capable of wiping entire zergs with 2-5 players doing this. You either do this, or stop trying to play a gank set up in open world pvp with no care or regard for positioning.

i dont run light, i run 7 med
im not talking about people running them builds, im taking about this ability being broken nomatter what build your running

Vangy · January 2016

Alferino wrote: »

Vangy wrote: »

......

My dk has a gank build and an open world pvp build. My gank build has 4.5k weapon damage, 41k stamina and around 16k health unbuffed with 800 stam regen lol. This build is designed for one and only purpose. Drink.... Vamp.... Tears.... Especially those 7/7 light armor, I'm gona stack 64 points into magicka, and use all divines vamps. With or without rml if I see ur vamp and ur running a build such as above; I have news for you. You're literally a walking ap bag served up on a golden platter. Hell I don't even see your character nameplate. All I see is "ap come get some". I will find you and pop your cherry. Becoz my build is designed to eat your build alive. So no.

Bear in mind the trade off I am making is that my gank build relies on not being seen too. If any half decent player catches me not in stealth I'm dead. Cos 800 stam regen and 20k hp in cyro.

You as a vamp get awesome batswarm and stealth move speed. The trade off you make is that ur running a full Dps build just like me but you want to be able to strut around cyro picking daisies and going lalalala and want no one to kill you. Nope.
Not gona happen.

Take my legit open world build for example. 5 heavy 1 medium 1 light. 28k buffed hp. 5 pieces impen the rest in divines. 2200 stam regen with engin Guardian + 400 cp. You think a ganker can dream of killing me? Maybe if he has 2 buddies who all combo wombo cc me to death. Other than that, nbs don't even bother getting near me cos they take one look at my armor and health total and run the other way.

In short, don't roll a 7/7 light armor vamp with no rml and 40k magicka. This is a ganking set up. Ever seen a vamp magblade cloak in with proxy det armed with a lotus fan into batswarm opening? They are capable of wiping entire zergs with 2-5 players doing this. You either do this, or stop trying to play a gank set up in open world pvp with no care or regard for positioning.

i dont run light, i run 7 med
im not talking about people running them builds, im taking about this ability being broken nomatter what build your running

Wait what? 7 medium. Vamp? Why? Nevermind lol. Again the only reason I'd have a stamina toon with vamp is if I'm going to pop into a Zerg with friends and hit batswarm with steel nado. There is literally no other use to run a vamp toon in stamina and 7 medium. Please say that at least your a stamina build. Please?

Also from your death recap if it's not bugged u took a total of around 20k damage. Buffed. In Cyro. Bad idea to run this Low of an Hp total even if you're not a vamp.

Imdrefan · January 2016

I'm actually shocked when I read "I drink vamp tears" and "my build is specially designed to kill vampires".

What you need to include is "My build is specially designed to rely on a broken ability to get kills that I wouldn't be getting"

Vangy wrote: »

Alferino wrote: »

Vangy wrote: »

......

My dk has a gank build and an open world pvp build. My gank build has 4.5k weapon damage, 41k stamina and around 16k health unbuffed with 800 stam regen lol. This build is designed for one and only purpose. Drink.... Vamp.... Tears.... Especially those 7/7 light armor, I'm gona stack 64 points into magicka, and use all divines vamps. With or without rml if I see ur vamp and ur running a build such as above; I have news for you. You're literally a walking ap bag served up on a golden platter. Hell I don't even see your character nameplate. All I see is "ap come get some". I will find you and pop your cherry. Becoz my build is designed to eat your build alive. So no.

Bear in mind the trade off I am making is that my gank build relies on not being seen too. If any half decent player catches me not in stealth I'm dead. Cos 800 stam regen and 20k hp in cyro.

You as a vamp get awesome batswarm and stealth move speed. The trade off you make is that ur running a full Dps build just like me but you want to be able to strut around cyro picking daisies and going lalalala and want no one to kill you. Nope.
Not gona happen.

Take my legit open world build for example. 5 heavy 1 medium 1 light. 28k buffed hp. 5 pieces impen the rest in divines. 2200 stam regen with engin Guardian + 400 cp. You think a ganker can dream of killing me? Maybe if he has 2 buddies who all combo wombo cc me to death. Other than that, nbs don't even bother getting near me cos they take one look at my armor and health total and run the other way.

In short, don't roll a 7/7 light armor vamp with no rml and 40k magicka. This is a ganking set up. Ever seen a vamp magblade cloak in with proxy det armed with a lotus fan into batswarm opening? They are capable of wiping entire zergs with 2-5 players doing this. You either do this, or stop trying to play a gank set up in open world pvp with no care or regard for positioning.

i dont run light, i run 7 med
im not talking about people running them builds, im taking about this ability being broken nomatter what build your running

Wait what? 7 medium. Vamp? Why? Nevermind lol. Again the only reason I'd have a stamina toon with vamp is if I'm going to pop into a Zerg with friends and hit batswarm with steel nado. There is literally no other use to run a vamp toon in stamina and 7 medium. Please say that at least your a stamina build. Please?

Also from your death recap if it's not bugged u took a total of around 20k damage. Buffed. In Cyro. Bad idea to run this Low of an Hp total even if you're not a vamp.

The Death recap is broken and doesn't display the proper numbers.

Alferino · January 2016

Vangy wrote: »

Alferino wrote: »

Vangy wrote: »

......

My dk has a gank build and an open world pvp build. My gank build has 4.5k weapon damage, 41k stamina and around 16k health unbuffed with 800 stam regen lol. This build is designed for one and only purpose. Drink.... Vamp.... Tears.... Especially those 7/7 light armor, I'm gona stack 64 points into magicka, and use all divines vamps. With or without rml if I see ur vamp and ur running a build such as above; I have news for you. You're literally a walking ap bag served up on a golden platter. Hell I don't even see your character nameplate. All I see is "ap come get some". I will find you and pop your cherry. Becoz my build is designed to eat your build alive. So no.

Bear in mind the trade off I am making is that my gank build relies on not being seen too. If any half decent player catches me not in stealth I'm dead. Cos 800 stam regen and 20k hp in cyro.

You as a vamp get awesome batswarm and stealth move speed. The trade off you make is that ur running a full Dps build just like me but you want to be able to strut around cyro picking daisies and going lalalala and want no one to kill you. Nope.
Not gona happen.

Take my legit open world build for example. 5 heavy 1 medium 1 light. 28k buffed hp. 5 pieces impen the rest in divines. 2200 stam regen with engin Guardian + 400 cp. You think a ganker can dream of killing me? Maybe if he has 2 buddies who all combo wombo cc me to death. Other than that, nbs don't even bother getting near me cos they take one look at my armor and health total and run the other way.

In short, don't roll a 7/7 light armor vamp with no rml and 40k magicka. This is a ganking set up. Ever seen a vamp magblade cloak in with proxy det armed with a lotus fan into batswarm opening? They are capable of wiping entire zergs with 2-5 players doing this. You either do this, or stop trying to play a gank set up in open world pvp with no care or regard for positioning.

i dont run light, i run 7 med
im not talking about people running them builds, im taking about this ability being broken nomatter what build your running

Wait what? 7 medium. Vamp? Why? Nevermind lol. Again the only reason I'd have a stamina toon with vamp is if I'm going to pop into a Zerg with friends and hit batswarm with steel nado. There is literally no other use to run a vamp toon in stamina and 7 medium. Please say that at least your a stamina build. Please?

Also from your death recap if it's not bugged u took a total of around 20k damage. Buffed. In Cyro. Bad idea to run this Low of an Hp total even if you're not a vamp.

Please, read all the comments before you make one yourself
i did state i am a stam build... clearly didnt read everything, i use vamp on a stam build for the simple fact that invisi bats is great, and mist is nice mobility for a stamina templar, also.. 24k health is not super low like your making it out to be...
and then to add onto everything your saying, if you looked at all the screenshots, there is a Camo hunter, ability, camo hunter death recap, from 1 guy, that didnt even equal up to 20k....

joe.smith21b14_ESO · January 2016

Alferino wrote: »

Vangy wrote: »

Alferino wrote: »

Vangy wrote: »

......

My dk has a gank build and an open world pvp build. My gank build has 4.5k weapon damage, 41k stamina and around 16k health unbuffed with 800 stam regen lol. This build is designed for one and only purpose. Drink.... Vamp.... Tears.... Especially those 7/7 light armor, I'm gona stack 64 points into magicka, and use all divines vamps. With or without rml if I see ur vamp and ur running a build such as above; I have news for you. You're literally a walking ap bag served up on a golden platter. Hell I don't even see your character nameplate. All I see is "ap come get some". I will find you and pop your cherry. Becoz my build is designed to eat your build alive. So no.

Bear in mind the trade off I am making is that my gank build relies on not being seen too. If any half decent player catches me not in stealth I'm dead. Cos 800 stam regen and 20k hp in cyro.

You as a vamp get awesome batswarm and stealth move speed. The trade off you make is that ur running a full Dps build just like me but you want to be able to strut around cyro picking daisies and going lalalala and want no one to kill you. Nope.
Not gona happen.

Take my legit open world build for example. 5 heavy 1 medium 1 light. 28k buffed hp. 5 pieces impen the rest in divines. 2200 stam regen with engin Guardian + 400 cp. You think a ganker can dream of killing me? Maybe if he has 2 buddies who all combo wombo cc me to death. Other than that, nbs don't even bother getting near me cos they take one look at my armor and health total and run the other way.

In short, don't roll a 7/7 light armor vamp with no rml and 40k magicka. This is a ganking set up. Ever seen a vamp magblade cloak in with proxy det armed with a lotus fan into batswarm opening? They are capable of wiping entire zergs with 2-5 players doing this. You either do this, or stop trying to play a gank set up in open world pvp with no care or regard for positioning.

i dont run light, i run 7 med
im not talking about people running them builds, im taking about this ability being broken nomatter what build your running

Wait what? 7 medium. Vamp? Why? Nevermind lol. Again the only reason I'd have a stamina toon with vamp is if I'm going to pop into a Zerg with friends and hit batswarm with steel nado. There is literally no other use to run a vamp toon in stamina and 7 medium. Please say that at least your a stamina build. Please?

Also from your death recap if it's not bugged u took a total of around 20k damage. Buffed. In Cyro. Bad idea to run this Low of an Hp total even if you're not a vamp.

Please, read all the comments before you make one yourself
i did state i am a stam build... clearly didnt read everything, i use vamp on a stam build for the simple fact that invisi bats is great, and mist is nice mobility for a stamina templar, also.. 24k health is not super low like your making it out to be...
and then to add onto everything your saying, if you looked at all the screenshots, there is a Camo hunter, ability, camo hunter death recap, from 1 guy, that didnt even equal up to 20k....

Alferino you don't need vamp bud. It if you keep rocking it I'll keep one shoting you. Just rock werewolf bud but I guess either way your dying to my hammer. Just saying.
-Smiff

Alferino · January 2016

joe.smith21b14_ESO wrote: »

Alferino wrote: »

Vangy wrote: »

Alferino wrote: »

Vangy wrote: »

......

My dk has a gank build and an open world pvp build. My gank build has 4.5k weapon damage, 41k stamina and around 16k health unbuffed with 800 stam regen lol. This build is designed for one and only purpose. Drink.... Vamp.... Tears.... Especially those 7/7 light armor, I'm gona stack 64 points into magicka, and use all divines vamps. With or without rml if I see ur vamp and ur running a build such as above; I have news for you. You're literally a walking ap bag served up on a golden platter. Hell I don't even see your character nameplate. All I see is "ap come get some". I will find you and pop your cherry. Becoz my build is designed to eat your build alive. So no.

Bear in mind the trade off I am making is that my gank build relies on not being seen too. If any half decent player catches me not in stealth I'm dead. Cos 800 stam regen and 20k hp in cyro.

You as a vamp get awesome batswarm and stealth move speed. The trade off you make is that ur running a full Dps build just like me but you want to be able to strut around cyro picking daisies and going lalalala and want no one to kill you. Nope.
Not gona happen.

Take my legit open world build for example. 5 heavy 1 medium 1 light. 28k buffed hp. 5 pieces impen the rest in divines. 2200 stam regen with engin Guardian + 400 cp. You think a ganker can dream of killing me? Maybe if he has 2 buddies who all combo wombo cc me to death. Other than that, nbs don't even bother getting near me cos they take one look at my armor and health total and run the other way.

In short, don't roll a 7/7 light armor vamp with no rml and 40k magicka. This is a ganking set up. Ever seen a vamp magblade cloak in with proxy det armed with a lotus fan into batswarm opening? They are capable of wiping entire zergs with 2-5 players doing this. You either do this, or stop trying to play a gank set up in open world pvp with no care or regard for positioning.

i dont run light, i run 7 med
im not talking about people running them builds, im taking about this ability being broken nomatter what build your running

Wait what? 7 medium. Vamp? Why? Nevermind lol. Again the only reason I'd have a stamina toon with vamp is if I'm going to pop into a Zerg with friends and hit batswarm with steel nado. There is literally no other use to run a vamp toon in stamina and 7 medium. Please say that at least your a stamina build. Please?

Also from your death recap if it's not bugged u took a total of around 20k damage. Buffed. In Cyro. Bad idea to run this Low of an Hp total even if you're not a vamp.

Please, read all the comments before you make one yourself
i did state i am a stam build... clearly didnt read everything, i use vamp on a stam build for the simple fact that invisi bats is great, and mist is nice mobility for a stamina templar, also.. 24k health is not super low like your making it out to be...
and then to add onto everything your saying, if you looked at all the screenshots, there is a Camo hunter, ability, camo hunter death recap, from 1 guy, that didnt even equal up to 20k....

Alferino wrote: »

Vangy wrote: »

Alferino wrote: »

Vangy wrote: »

......

My dk has a gank build and an open world pvp build. My gank build has 4.5k weapon damage, 41k stamina and around 16k health unbuffed with 800 stam regen lol. This build is designed for one and only purpose. Drink.... Vamp.... Tears.... Especially those 7/7 light armor, I'm gona stack 64 points into magicka, and use all divines vamps. With or without rml if I see ur vamp and ur running a build such as above; I have news for you. You're literally a walking ap bag served up on a golden platter. Hell I don't even see your character nameplate. All I see is "ap come get some". I will find you and pop your cherry. Becoz my build is designed to eat your build alive. So no.

Bear in mind the trade off I am making is that my gank build relies on not being seen too. If any half decent player catches me not in stealth I'm dead. Cos 800 stam regen and 20k hp in cyro.

You as a vamp get awesome batswarm and stealth move speed. The trade off you make is that ur running a full Dps build just like me but you want to be able to strut around cyro picking daisies and going lalalala and want no one to kill you. Nope.
Not gona happen.

Take my legit open world build for example. 5 heavy 1 medium 1 light. 28k buffed hp. 5 pieces impen the rest in divines. 2200 stam regen with engin Guardian + 400 cp. You think a ganker can dream of killing me? Maybe if he has 2 buddies who all combo wombo cc me to death. Other than that, nbs don't even bother getting near me cos they take one look at my armor and health total and run the other way.

In short, don't roll a 7/7 light armor vamp with no rml and 40k magicka. This is a ganking set up. Ever seen a vamp magblade cloak in with proxy det armed with a lotus fan into batswarm opening? They are capable of wiping entire zergs with 2-5 players doing this. You either do this, or stop trying to play a gank set up in open world pvp with no care or regard for positioning.

i dont run light, i run 7 med
im not talking about people running them builds, im taking about this ability being broken nomatter what build your running

Wait what? 7 medium. Vamp? Why? Nevermind lol. Again the only reason I'd have a stamina toon with vamp is if I'm going to pop into a Zerg with friends and hit batswarm with steel nado. There is literally no other use to run a vamp toon in stamina and 7 medium. Please say that at least your a stamina build. Please?

Also from your death recap if it's not bugged u took a total of around 20k damage. Buffed. In Cyro. Bad idea to run this Low of an Hp total even if you're not a vamp.

Please, read all the comments before you make one yourself
i did state i am a stam build... clearly didnt read everything, i use vamp on a stam build for the simple fact that invisi bats is great, and mist is nice mobility for a stamina templar, also.. 24k health is not super low like your making it out to be...
and then to add onto everything your saying, if you looked at all the screenshots, there is a Camo hunter, ability, camo hunter death recap, from 1 guy, that didnt even equal up to 20k....

Alferino you don't need vamp bud. It if you keep rocking it I'll keep one shoting you. Just rock werewolf bud but I guess either way your dying to my hammer. Just saying.
-Smiff

Alrighty mr pro

Therium104 · January 2016

Lol. One shots are just poor game design. ESO needs to do some serious class balancing.

Angus · January 2016

Therium104 wrote: »

Lol. One shots are just poor game design. ESO needs to do some serious class balancing.

You must really hate FPSs. Plenty of games and people seem to consider one-shot penalties for screwing up acceptable.

Alferino · January 2016

Angus wrote: »

Therium104 wrote: »

Lol. One shots are just poor game design. ESO needs to do some serious class balancing.

You must really hate FPSs. Plenty of games and people seem to consider one-shot penalties for screwing up acceptable.

You're point is so silly as this is a MMO, not FPS, maybe your playing the wrong game buddy?

Angus · January 2016

Alferino wrote: »

Angus wrote: »

Therium104 wrote: »

Lol. One shots are just poor game design. ESO needs to do some serious class balancing.

You must really hate FPSs. Plenty of games and people seem to consider one-shot penalties for screwing up acceptable.

You're point is so silly as this is a MMO, not FPS, maybe your playing the wrong game buddy?

It definitely sounds like you are

Imdrefan · January 2016

Angus wrote: »

Therium104 wrote: »

Lol. One shots are just poor game design. ESO needs to do some serious class balancing.

You must really hate FPSs. Plenty of games and people seem to consider one-shot penalties for screwing up acceptable.

What did I screw up? Not getting ZOS to fix their broken stealth mechanics?

This isn't a FPS and you have made your desires clear that you want to play Eso like a FPS and everyone that doesn't run to cure vamp and run RML and run 40,000 HP in heavy armor, is too stupid and was "just asking for it."

Enjoy taking advantage of broken mechanics.

Angus · January 2016

Imdrefan wrote: »

Angus wrote: »

Therium104 wrote: »

Lol. One shots are just poor game design. ESO needs to do some serious class balancing.

You must really hate FPSs. Plenty of games and people seem to consider one-shot penalties for screwing up acceptable.

What did I screw up? Not getting ZOS to fix their broken stealth mechanics?

This isn't a FPS and you have made your desires clear that you want to play Eso like a FPS and everyone that doesn't run to cure vamp and run RML and run 40,000 HP in heavy armor, is too stupid and was "just asking for it."

Enjoy taking advantage of broken mechanics.

I never said ESO should play like an FPS. Instead, I quoted this absurd statement and responded to it:

Therium104 wrote: »

One shots are just poor game design.

Now that that's cleared up - you've got four pages of posts explaining the screw up.

For the record, since you appear to think I'm one of those bogeymen: I've never used camo hunter, ever. Don't have a ganking setup on any toon. I don't play burst builds these days, I enjoy sustain builds.

I play several light armor vamps currently. Vamp, light/med armor, mag/stam stacking... has major bonuses, and there has to be a counter. I get one-shot pretty frequently, and deserve it every time.

The rock-paper-scissors challenge keeps it interesting, but that's just how I like to play. Others are entitled to their opinion, whether or not it aligns with reality.

Imdrefan · January 2016

Angus wrote: »

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Imdrefan wrote: »

Angus wrote: »

Therium104 wrote: »

Lol. One shots are just poor game design. ESO needs to do some serious class balancing.

You must really hate FPSs. Plenty of games and people seem to consider one-shot penalties for screwing up acceptable.

What did I screw up? Not getting ZOS to fix their broken stealth mechanics?

This isn't a FPS and you have made your desires clear that you want to play Eso like a FPS and everyone that doesn't run to cure vamp and run RML and run 40,000 HP in heavy armor, is too stupid and was "just asking for it."

Enjoy taking advantage of broken mechanics.

I never said ESO should play like an FPS. Instead, I quoted this absurd statement and responded to it:

Therium104 wrote: »

One shots are just poor game design.

Now that's that's cleared up - you've got four pages of posts explaining the screw up.

For the record - I've never used camo hunter, ever, and don't have a ganking setup on any toon. I don't play burst builds, I enjoy sustain builds.

I play several light armor vamps currently. They're not nearly as good as they used to be. I get one-shot pretty frequently, and deserve it every time. The rock-paper-scissors challenge keeps it interesting, but that's just how I like to play.

Please clarify the screw up for me.

Angus · January 2016

Imdrefan wrote: »

Angus wrote: »

O

Imdrefan wrote: »

Angus wrote: »

Therium104 wrote: »

Lol. One shots are just poor game design. ESO needs to do some serious class balancing.

You must really hate FPSs. Plenty of games and people seem to consider one-shot penalties for screwing up acceptable.

What did I screw up? Not getting ZOS to fix their broken stealth mechanics?

This isn't a FPS and you have made your desires clear that you want to play Eso like a FPS and everyone that doesn't run to cure vamp and run RML and run 40,000 HP in heavy armor, is too stupid and was "just asking for it."

Enjoy taking advantage of broken mechanics.

I never said ESO should play like an FPS. Instead, I quoted this absurd statement and responded to it:

Therium104 wrote: »

One shots are just poor game design.

Now that's that's cleared up - you've got four pages of posts explaining the screw up.

For the record - I've never used camo hunter, ever, and don't have a ganking setup on any toon. I don't play burst builds, I enjoy sustain builds.

I play several light armor vamps currently. They're not nearly as good as they used to be. I get one-shot pretty frequently, and deserve it every time. The rock-paper-scissors challenge keeps it interesting, but that's just how I like to play.

Please clarify the screw up for me.

I clarified my comment. The posts clarifying the screw up are still in this thread.

Imdrefan · January 2016

Angus wrote: »

Imdrefan wrote: »

Angus wrote: »

O

Imdrefan wrote: »

Angus wrote: »

Therium104 wrote: »

Lol. One shots are just poor game design. ESO needs to do some serious class balancing.

You must really hate FPSs. Plenty of games and people seem to consider one-shot penalties for screwing up acceptable.

What did I screw up? Not getting ZOS to fix their broken stealth mechanics?

This isn't a FPS and you have made your desires clear that you want to play Eso like a FPS and everyone that doesn't run to cure vamp and run RML and run 40,000 HP in heavy armor, is too stupid and was "just asking for it."

Enjoy taking advantage of broken mechanics.

I never said ESO should play like an FPS. Instead, I quoted this absurd statement and responded to it:

Therium104 wrote: »

One shots are just poor game design.

Now that's that's cleared up - you've got four pages of posts explaining the screw up.

For the record - I've never used camo hunter, ever, and don't have a ganking setup on any toon. I don't play burst builds, I enjoy sustain builds.

I play several light armor vamps currently. They're not nearly as good as they used to be. I get one-shot pretty frequently, and deserve it every time. The rock-paper-scissors challenge keeps it interesting, but that's just how I like to play.

Please clarify the screw up for me.

I clarified my comment. The posts clarifying the screw up are still in this thread.

I've read every post in this thread, which one(s) are you referring to? I know this doesn't happen much on the Internet, but I'm genuinely trying to understand where you are coming from.