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Loyalty Program Rewards

  • jamesharv2005ub17_ESO
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    I disagree with the above statement. I think if its a 9 month reward you should have to have played 9 months and paid for 9 months to get it.
  • dafox187
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    I think that they should put them in the crown store this would let everyone get them and the earners of them get savings on crowns

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    Why couldn't the Khajiit go to the party? She had to be Elsweyr.
  • jamesharv2005ub17_ESO
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    dafox187 wrote: »
    I think that they should put them in the crown store this would let everyone get them and the earners of them get savings on crowns

    Oh ya no heh.
  • Rosveen
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    dafox187 wrote: »
    I think that they should put them in the crown store this would let everyone get them and the earners of them get savings on crowns
    See, this is where I'd use a Disagree button... if I had one.

    Let's keep them unique.
  • Kragorn
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    Nacario wrote: »
    Look just to make things clear I am all for people getting the reward. Just not if they havent paid for and used up 9 months. To me if you can just buy your way into it thats pay to win. You should have to earn it.

    Well see thats a bit vague as we all have been beta testing this product for a year, well earned if you ask me. Thing is all this confusion wouldnt have been here if their wording would've been more clear. And pay to win term is as far away as it can get when it comes to this mount or mask skin.

    We havent been beta testing for a year. When you say stuff like that people refuse to take you seriously. Including developers and community managers.
    Given the massive 'known issues' lists that were compiled at each Update as well as some game-breaking quest bugs that still were being fix into August, someone could be forgiven in portraying much of the last 9 months, and certainly the first 4 or 5, as an extended beta test.
    Edited by Kragorn on 19 February 2015 17:02
  • LonePirate
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    I honestly do not understand any need for ZOS to be a stickler here. In my opinion, anyone who has PAID for 300 days by March 16 should be eligible. If someone buys the game on March 15 and immediately applies 10 different 30 day time cards, then they are eligible for the Striped Senche mount. These are cosmetic items which no impact on actual gameplay. I don't think the rules need to be so restrictive for receiving them.
  • Pappa
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    @ZOS_GinaBruno Please stop calling these Loyalty rewards, there is nothing loyal about leaving the game for a period of time only to return and purchase game time to get a reward to make it seem as though you have played non stop since launch
    *Kiss the goat*
  • The_Antiquarian
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    I disagree with the above statement. I think if its a 9 month reward you should have to have played 9 months and paid for 9 months to get it.

    I would be perfectly content with EOS discontinuing Loyalty Program, but still giving the chance for players who have applied additional gametime, exceeding 9-months miletone, to qualify for the Loyalty Mask, even after the Loyalty Program ends.

    But that would require a far more complex coding power than just making the criteria same as the Senche Mount.
  • ArconSeptim
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    It's pretty dissapointing reward for people who paid over the year, really when you look it that way.Mounts will come even better than senche more special than it is and it be boughtable.
  • Rosveen
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    Pappa wrote: »
    @ZOS_GinaBruno Please stop calling these Loyalty rewards, there is nothing loyal about leaving the game for a period of time only to return and purchase game time to get a reward to make it seem as though you have played non stop since launch
    It has always been financial loyalty and there's nothing wrong with that. Even according to the old rules, people who buy the game and start subbing today would get all loyalty rewards - just a year later than everybody else. But they won't because the entire system is being removed.
  • jamesharv2005ub17_ESO
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    I think we should all just wait for the official word.
  • Pappa
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    Don't get me wrong, i believe anyone and everyone should be able to get these pets/mounts/costume via the Crown Store/in game gold or RL money, i just have a problem with the wording Loyalty
    *Kiss the goat*
  • dafox187
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    Pappa wrote: »
    Don't get me wrong, i believe anyone and everyone should be able to get these pets/mounts/costume via the Crown Store/in game gold or RL money, i just have a problem with the wording Loyalty

    im new to the fourms and i dont know were the agree button is i agree with you

    don't get mad at my spelling, autocorrect doesn't cover fantasy.
    Why couldn't the Khajiit go to the party? She had to be Elsweyr.
  • flubber77
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    If u have not played the game for 300 days before march 16 why should you have the options to bay you the way in for this reward? this will not be fair for those who actualy have done this? if the stick up with a new 600 days reward for payed sub and the reward will be hughe, i stop my sub now and the day before i can see that the reward is good or not, if it is good i just buy sub then?

    NO go play the game and keep playing with sub and u will have your reward, if not, just cry to momy or something. just dont do it here.

    fair for all
    Still a grudge, only to see false what u want and nothing less.
  • starkerealm
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    roechacca wrote: »
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    The crown store is the new loyalty program . Pay for a sub, get crowns and reward your self . That's basicly what ZOS stated in the vid .

    Which sounds really weird... unless crowns won't be sold as separate currency.

    Ya man I didn't make the announcement I'm just re stating it . Don't shoot the messenger :wink:

    It would be a pretty hilarious middle finger to the people claiming the Crown Store is just a cash grab for a dying game. But, we'll know in less than a month, probably.
  • The_Antiquarian
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    flubber77 wrote: »
    If u have not played the game for 300 days before march 16 why should you have the options to bay you the way in for this reward? this will not be fair for those who actualy have done this? if the stick up with a new 600 days reward for payed sub and the reward will be hughe, i stop my sub now and the day before i can see that the reward is good or not, if it is good i just buy sub then?

    NO go play the game and keep playing with sub and u will have your reward, if not, just cry to momy or something. just dont do it here.

    fair for all

    You can't just claim that we are less loyal than those who have subscribed ESO since its launch. If you read the comments carefully, you will note that we have participated in the Beta, have preordered and purchased physical AND softcopy of Imperial Editions, have attended PAX solely to see ESO's contents, and etc. and the only reason why we couldn't start from the launch date was because of extraordinary RL circumstances. Our loyalty to ESO still stands not in any way lesser than those have started the game since launch and we all deserve a chance to show our unflinching loyalty by being able to pay out the remaining subscription time so we can also qualify for the Loyalty Mask.

    For many of us, Elder Scrolls series is about collecting unique and rare items. By taking the Mask right in front of us, we will be left with a big hole that will never get filled. Zenimax/Betheta specifically said that all loyalty items will be available for all those who subscribe in the future. They can't just give us one month period to sort things out and not give us the chance to fulfill the criteria to receive the LAST loyalty reward. We all deserve a chance.
  • jamesharv2005ub17_ESO
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    Loyalty in this instance is based on how much money you spent. Period. Nothing else matters. Its just like frequent flier miles or any other perk you get for spending money.
  • RainfeatherUK
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    But but, time is money! so reward time and long term subscribers /cheer.
  • Kahz
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    THANK YOU EVERYONE!
  • Troneon
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    Troneon wrote: »
    So even if you buy 9 months of subscription right now you will not get any of the loyalty rewards?

    mmm....

    Correct. Except for the senche if you pay 10 months.

    Sounds like a cash grab.

    A loyalty Reward with the ability for everyone to get it even if they did not even play the game until now as long as the pay $$$$$ lots for it...

    Yeah I smell cash grab..almost as bad as locking races and factions behind pay walls...

    OH wait nvm....
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  • starkerealm
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    Troneon wrote: »
    Troneon wrote: »
    So even if you buy 9 months of subscription right now you will not get any of the loyalty rewards?

    mmm....

    Correct. Except for the senche if you pay 10 months.

    Sounds like a cash grab.

    A loyalty Reward with the ability for everyone to get it even if they did not even play the game until now as long as the pay $$$$$ lots for it...

    Yeah I smell cash grab..almost as bad as locking races and factions behind pay walls...

    OH wait nvm....

    Yeah, nevermind, almost nobody's going to do that. So it's not really a cash grab if you don't let people outside of your most fanatical fanbase know, "hey, here's this thing we're sellin', you maybe wanna piece of this awesome here?"
  • Troneon
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    Troneon wrote: »
    Troneon wrote: »
    So even if you buy 9 months of subscription right now you will not get any of the loyalty rewards?

    mmm....

    Correct. Except for the senche if you pay 10 months.

    Sounds like a cash grab.

    A loyalty Reward with the ability for everyone to get it even if they did not even play the game until now as long as the pay $$$$$ lots for it...

    Yeah I smell cash grab..almost as bad as locking races and factions behind pay walls...

    OH wait nvm....

    Yeah, nevermind, almost nobody's going to do that. So it's not really a cash grab if you don't let people outside of your most fanatical fanbase know, "hey, here's this thing we're sellin', you maybe wanna piece of this awesome here?"

    At least all the money from everyone bumping themselves to 300 days paid subscription to get a giant cat mount will go back into the PC GAME and not into development for consoles.....oh wait nvm.
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  • Kahz
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    I personally don't think this was possibly without everyone's help bringing this to attention to the GM's, you've guys have been great and thank you to the guys at ZOS for clearing this up.

    In regards to those who argue we should not receive this; the bottom like is Loyality cannot be gauged by the when we started playing but how much we invested into the francise. Our RL are all different and due to circumstances some are not able to subscribe at some point during another, as mentioned countless times.

    Honestly if you boast about how you never unsubscribed and how loyal you are, then I am sure a few more people getting some digital items won't suddenly make your loyalty waver. Unless you just want to appear more special than the masses, just admit it but don't throw words like fairness or loyal around.
  • The_Antiquarian
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    More cashflow for Betheda/Zenimax --> More funding for consoles and additional game contents --> More returning players & new players --> Merrier us.

    The cycle repeats itself over and over again.
  • starkerealm
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    Troneon wrote: »
    Troneon wrote: »
    Troneon wrote: »
    So even if you buy 9 months of subscription right now you will not get any of the loyalty rewards?

    mmm....

    Correct. Except for the senche if you pay 10 months.

    Sounds like a cash grab.

    A loyalty Reward with the ability for everyone to get it even if they did not even play the game until now as long as the pay $$$$$ lots for it...

    Yeah I smell cash grab..almost as bad as locking races and factions behind pay walls...

    OH wait nvm....

    Yeah, nevermind, almost nobody's going to do that. So it's not really a cash grab if you don't let people outside of your most fanatical fanbase know, "hey, here's this thing we're sellin', you maybe wanna piece of this awesome here?"

    At least all the money from everyone bumping themselves to 300 days paid subscription to get a giant cat mount will go back into the PC GAME and not into development for consoles.....oh wait nvm.

    Yeah, nevermind. Come back when you're talking sense. Those cards are already sold, so far as ZoS is concerned. The stores gave them money for them. That cash is already in ZoS's pockets.

    Unless you think the "cash grab" is somekind of overly complex kickback conspiracy to help the retailers.
    Edited by starkerealm on 19 February 2015 20:30
  • Troneon
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    Troneon wrote: »
    Troneon wrote: »
    Troneon wrote: »
    So even if you buy 9 months of subscription right now you will not get any of the loyalty rewards?

    mmm....

    Correct. Except for the senche if you pay 10 months.

    Sounds like a cash grab.

    A loyalty Reward with the ability for everyone to get it even if they did not even play the game until now as long as the pay $$$$$ lots for it...

    Yeah I smell cash grab..almost as bad as locking races and factions behind pay walls...

    OH wait nvm....

    Yeah, nevermind, almost nobody's going to do that. So it's not really a cash grab if you don't let people outside of your most fanatical fanbase know, "hey, here's this thing we're sellin', you maybe wanna piece of this awesome here?"

    At least all the money from everyone bumping themselves to 300 days paid subscription to get a giant cat mount will go back into the PC GAME and not into development for consoles.....oh wait nvm.

    Yeah, nevermind. Come back when you're talking sense. Those cards are already sold, so far as ZoS is concerned. The stores gave them money for them. That cash is already in ZoS's pockets.

    Some people used subscriptions to bump themselves not pre paid cards. Buy 90 days sub, cancel, but another 90 day sub, cancel. That's what I read on the forums anyway, not sure if it even works.
    Edited by Troneon on 19 February 2015 20:31
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  • starkerealm
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    Troneon wrote: »
    Troneon wrote: »
    Troneon wrote: »
    Troneon wrote: »
    So even if you buy 9 months of subscription right now you will not get any of the loyalty rewards?

    mmm....

    Correct. Except for the senche if you pay 10 months.

    Sounds like a cash grab.

    A loyalty Reward with the ability for everyone to get it even if they did not even play the game until now as long as the pay $$$$$ lots for it...

    Yeah I smell cash grab..almost as bad as locking races and factions behind pay walls...

    OH wait nvm....

    Yeah, nevermind, almost nobody's going to do that. So it's not really a cash grab if you don't let people outside of your most fanatical fanbase know, "hey, here's this thing we're sellin', you maybe wanna piece of this awesome here?"

    At least all the money from everyone bumping themselves to 300 days paid subscription to get a giant cat mount will go back into the PC GAME and not into development for consoles.....oh wait nvm.

    Yeah, nevermind. Come back when you're talking sense. Those cards are already sold, so far as ZoS is concerned. The stores gave them money for them. That cash is already in ZoS's pockets.

    Some people used subscriptions to bump themselves not pre paid cards. Buy 90 days sub, cancel, but another 90 day sub, cancel.

    Well, your wonderful conspiracy plan just fell apart, because ZoS locked down the 180 day sub before this announced. If this was really a cash grab, wouldn't you want to... you know, grab some cash?
  • jamesharv2005ub17_ESO
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    Kahz wrote: »
    I personally don't think this was possibly without everyone's help bringing this to attention to the GM's, you've guys have been great and thank you to the guys at ZOS for clearing this up.

    In regards to those who argue we should not receive this; the bottom like is Loyality cannot be gauged by the when we started playing but how much we invested into the francise. Our RL are all different and due to circumstances some are not able to subscribe at some point during another, as mentioned countless times.

    Honestly if you boast about how you never unsubscribed and how loyal you are, then I am sure a few more people getting some digital items won't suddenly make your loyalty waver. Unless you just want to appear more special than the masses, just admit it but don't throw words like fairness or loyal around.

    Where did ZOS clear this up?
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    Kahz wrote: »
    I personally don't think this was possibly without everyone's help bringing this to attention to the GM's, you've guys have been great and thank you to the guys at ZOS for clearing this up.

    In regards to those who argue we should not receive this; the bottom like is Loyality cannot be gauged by the when we started playing but how much we invested into the francise. Our RL are all different and due to circumstances some are not able to subscribe at some point during another, as mentioned countless times.

    Honestly if you boast about how you never unsubscribed and how loyal you are, then I am sure a few more people getting some digital items won't suddenly make your loyalty waver. Unless you just want to appear more special than the masses, just admit it but don't throw words like fairness or loyal around.

    Where did ZOS clear this up?

    Sometime in the next couple hours. :\
  • Kahz
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