See, this is where I'd use a Disagree button... if I had one.I think that they should put them in the crown store this would let everyone get them and the earners of them get savings on crowns
Given the massive 'known issues' lists that were compiled at each Update as well as some game-breaking quest bugs that still were being fix into August, someone could be forgiven in portraying much of the last 9 months, and certainly the first 4 or 5, as an extended beta test.jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »Look just to make things clear I am all for people getting the reward. Just not if they havent paid for and used up 9 months. To me if you can just buy your way into it thats pay to win. You should have to earn it.
Well see thats a bit vague as we all have been beta testing this product for a year, well earned if you ask me. Thing is all this confusion wouldnt have been here if their wording would've been more clear. And pay to win term is as far away as it can get when it comes to this mount or mask skin.
We havent been beta testing for a year. When you say stuff like that people refuse to take you seriously. Including developers and community managers.
jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »I disagree with the above statement. I think if its a 9 month reward you should have to have played 9 months and paid for 9 months to get it.
It has always been financial loyalty and there's nothing wrong with that. Even according to the old rules, people who buy the game and start subbing today would get all loyalty rewards - just a year later than everybody else. But they won't because the entire system is being removed.@ZOS_GinaBruno Please stop calling these Loyalty rewards, there is nothing loyal about leaving the game for a period of time only to return and purchase game time to get a reward to make it seem as though you have played non stop since launch
Don't get me wrong, i believe anyone and everyone should be able to get these pets/mounts/costume via the Crown Store/in game gold or RL money, i just have a problem with the wording Loyalty
starkerealm wrote: »
Ya man I didn't make the announcement I'm just re stating it . Don't shoot the messenger
If u have not played the game for 300 days before march 16 why should you have the options to bay you the way in for this reward? this will not be fair for those who actualy have done this? if the stick up with a new 600 days reward for payed sub and the reward will be hughe, i stop my sub now and the day before i can see that the reward is good or not, if it is good i just buy sub then?
NO go play the game and keep playing with sub and u will have your reward, if not, just cry to momy or something. just dont do it here.
fair for all
jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »
jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »
Sounds like a cash grab.
A loyalty Reward with the ability for everyone to get it even if they did not even play the game until now as long as the pay $$$$$ lots for it...
Yeah I smell cash grab..almost as bad as locking races and factions behind pay walls...
OH wait nvm....
starkerealm wrote: »jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »
Sounds like a cash grab.
A loyalty Reward with the ability for everyone to get it even if they did not even play the game until now as long as the pay $$$$$ lots for it...
Yeah I smell cash grab..almost as bad as locking races and factions behind pay walls...
OH wait nvm....
Yeah, nevermind, almost nobody's going to do that. So it's not really a cash grab if you don't let people outside of your most fanatical fanbase know, "hey, here's this thing we're sellin', you maybe wanna piece of this awesome here?"
starkerealm wrote: »jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »
Sounds like a cash grab.
A loyalty Reward with the ability for everyone to get it even if they did not even play the game until now as long as the pay $$$$$ lots for it...
Yeah I smell cash grab..almost as bad as locking races and factions behind pay walls...
OH wait nvm....
Yeah, nevermind, almost nobody's going to do that. So it's not really a cash grab if you don't let people outside of your most fanatical fanbase know, "hey, here's this thing we're sellin', you maybe wanna piece of this awesome here?"
At least all the money from everyone bumping themselves to 300 days paid subscription to get a giant cat mount will go back into the PC GAME and not into development for consoles.....oh wait nvm.
starkerealm wrote: »starkerealm wrote: »jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »
Sounds like a cash grab.
A loyalty Reward with the ability for everyone to get it even if they did not even play the game until now as long as the pay $$$$$ lots for it...
Yeah I smell cash grab..almost as bad as locking races and factions behind pay walls...
OH wait nvm....
Yeah, nevermind, almost nobody's going to do that. So it's not really a cash grab if you don't let people outside of your most fanatical fanbase know, "hey, here's this thing we're sellin', you maybe wanna piece of this awesome here?"
At least all the money from everyone bumping themselves to 300 days paid subscription to get a giant cat mount will go back into the PC GAME and not into development for consoles.....oh wait nvm.
Yeah, nevermind. Come back when you're talking sense. Those cards are already sold, so far as ZoS is concerned. The stores gave them money for them. That cash is already in ZoS's pockets.
starkerealm wrote: »starkerealm wrote: »jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »
Sounds like a cash grab.
A loyalty Reward with the ability for everyone to get it even if they did not even play the game until now as long as the pay $$$$$ lots for it...
Yeah I smell cash grab..almost as bad as locking races and factions behind pay walls...
OH wait nvm....
Yeah, nevermind, almost nobody's going to do that. So it's not really a cash grab if you don't let people outside of your most fanatical fanbase know, "hey, here's this thing we're sellin', you maybe wanna piece of this awesome here?"
At least all the money from everyone bumping themselves to 300 days paid subscription to get a giant cat mount will go back into the PC GAME and not into development for consoles.....oh wait nvm.
Yeah, nevermind. Come back when you're talking sense. Those cards are already sold, so far as ZoS is concerned. The stores gave them money for them. That cash is already in ZoS's pockets.
Some people used subscriptions to bump themselves not pre paid cards. Buy 90 days sub, cancel, but another 90 day sub, cancel.
I personally don't think this was possibly without everyone's help bringing this to attention to the GM's, you've guys have been great and thank you to the guys at ZOS for clearing this up.
In regards to those who argue we should not receive this; the bottom like is Loyality cannot be gauged by the when we started playing but how much we invested into the francise. Our RL are all different and due to circumstances some are not able to subscribe at some point during another, as mentioned countless times.
Honestly if you boast about how you never unsubscribed and how loyal you are, then I am sure a few more people getting some digital items won't suddenly make your loyalty waver. Unless you just want to appear more special than the masses, just admit it but don't throw words like fairness or loyal around.
jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »I personally don't think this was possibly without everyone's help bringing this to attention to the GM's, you've guys have been great and thank you to the guys at ZOS for clearing this up.
In regards to those who argue we should not receive this; the bottom like is Loyality cannot be gauged by the when we started playing but how much we invested into the francise. Our RL are all different and due to circumstances some are not able to subscribe at some point during another, as mentioned countless times.
Honestly if you boast about how you never unsubscribed and how loyal you are, then I am sure a few more people getting some digital items won't suddenly make your loyalty waver. Unless you just want to appear more special than the masses, just admit it but don't throw words like fairness or loyal around.
Where did ZOS clear this up?