Quel_Drathon wrote: »starkerealm wrote: »Akuydab14_ESO wrote: »...and until WoD comes out...
You do know CCP canceled World of Darkness... right? About a month ago?
WoD=Warlords Of Draenor. Please keep the terminology to a level....World of Darkness is the PnP RPG World name not the game name. Pirates are not a trend anymore...I want my eyes....
Akuydab14_ESO wrote: »starkerealm wrote: »Akuydab14_ESO wrote: »...and until WoD comes out...
You do know CCP canceled World of Darkness... right? About a month ago?
If you actually read the entire post you would know I wasn't talking about... whatever you're talking about.
Akuydab14_ESO wrote: »Oh yea and I played AoC, LOTRO, DnD:Neverwinter, and like every other "decent" or F2P mmo, and until WoD comes out and PvP doesn't totally blow, there's not another MMO out there that appeals to me, at all.
I mean, compared to certain other MMO titles out there what does TESO offer for the monthly cost? Not much in my opinion.
- No housing
- No auction house
- No underwater swimming
- No consequence system
- No SLI support
- Game design that totally break immersion in public areas
- Broken loot
- Good combat system
- Non explorable areas, invincible walls.
- Low res textures world objects
- Limited endgame
- Bots problem not solved, getting worse
- No dedicated EU server
- Bugs, too many
A rushed product incomplete in my opinion
I agree. Love the combat, but so many issues... Feel like this is a paid beta.
Phantorang wrote: »Which games do you compare ESO with?
No MMO has ever launched with those features, and most probably there will not be one either.
It is in the nature of MMO to introduce and patch stuff like that in, ive said it before and Ill say it again, Im glad they didnt have it all from the beginning, Im happy we got stuff to look forward too, that also gives me the opportunity to be a part of the development of ESO.
What people forget is that ESO just released and work still needs to be done.
You tell me Exactly what WoW had when it was first released, and compared that to ESO please.
wrlifeboil wrote: »What people forget is that ESO just released and work still needs to be done.
You tell me Exactly what WoW had when it was first released, and compared that to ESO please.
Consumers want it and they want it now. Would you buy a smartphone that only had the same features as a cell phone introduced 10 years ago and wait for the manufacturer to upgrade the phone over time?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motorola_StarTAC#StarTAC_2004
What people forget is that ESO just released and work still needs to be done.
You tell me Exactly what WoW had when it was first released, and compared that to ESO please.
starkerealm wrote: »wrlifeboil wrote: »What people forget is that ESO just released and work still needs to be done.
You tell me Exactly what WoW had when it was first released, and compared that to ESO please.
Consumers want it and they want it now. Would you buy a smartphone that only had the same features as a cell phone introduced 10 years ago and wait for the manufacturer to upgrade the phone over time?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motorola_StarTAC#StarTAC_2004
Great, now you've got me actually missing my old flip phone. Those had a really great tactile quality you just don't get from phones these days.
Monthly cost justified at the current SOTG
What people forget is that ESO just released and work still needs to be done.
You tell me Exactly what WoW had when it was first released, and compared that to ESO please.
That's really irrelevant. It's what WoW has now that ESO doesn't have. And to charge us $15 a month subscription for an unfinished product that's really lacking some core functions really did it for me.
Teevesnacks wrote: »You know what game has these features? World of Warcraft, you should check it out....
starkerealm wrote: »Teevesnacks wrote: »You know what game has these features? World of Warcraft, you should check it out....
I keep being tempted, then I remember that Blizzard's customer service handed my Battle.net account off to a scammer a couple years ago.
EDIT: But, hey, at least their customer service does something.
Teevesnacks wrote: »You know what game has these features? World of Warcraft, you should check it out....
Teevesnacks wrote: »starkerealm wrote: »Teevesnacks wrote: »You know what game has these features? World of Warcraft, you should check it out....
I keep being tempted, then I remember that Blizzard's customer service handed my Battle.net account off to a scammer a couple years ago.
EDIT: But, hey, at least their customer service does something.
/tinfoil hat
starkerealm wrote: »What people forget is that ESO just released and work still needs to be done.
You tell me Exactly what WoW had when it was first released, and compared that to ESO please.
That's really irrelevant. It's what WoW has now that ESO doesn't have. And to charge us $15 a month subscription for an unfinished product that's really lacking some core functions really did it for me.
Yeah... this is actually a really good point.
It's easy to say, look at the condition of other MMOs when they were in the same position. I think I've even made that argument... for TSW and maybe STO. But, the problem is, right now, if I want to spend fifteen bucks a month on a game, I have a choice between WoW in it's current state (not sure what that state is, to be honest), TSW (which I loathe...), STO, DCUO, Champions Online... no, wait, sorry, Strike STO, CO, and TSW, I've got life subs in all of them, sorry. But, I do have choices with other, better developed games. I can go to STO right now, and play a game that's in better shape, or I can play TESO...
But, if I'm getting frustrated with all the poor design decisions, and incomplete elements in TESO... why would I want to spend fifteen bucks a month here?
I mean, compared to certain other MMO titles out there what does TESO offer for the monthly cost? Not much in my opinion.
- No housing
- No auction house
- No underwater swimming
- No consequence system
- No SLI support
- Game design that totally break immersion in public areas
- Broken loot
- Good combat system
- Non explorable areas, invincible walls.
- Low res textures world objects
- Limited endgame
- Bots problem not solved, getting worse
- No dedicated EU server
- Bugs, too many
A rushed product incomplete in my opinion
You are right - it feels wrong to pay a high box price+sub given the issues. GW2 for example had a reasonable box price, no sub and covered all the bases right out of the gate.
And despite all that, you are here. Posting in the ESO forums, not the GW2 forums. I played Zerg Wars 2 and I got what I paid for. I'm assuming you weren't there when the game launched. It was a major disappointment. Those facts, however, are irrelevant. The games are apples and oranges. Except guild wars would be a crab apple and ESO is a tangerine.
wrlifeboil wrote: »Teevesnacks wrote: »You know what game has these features? World of Warcraft, you should check it out....
Don't even joke about it like that. The pull of WoW is strong with the new xpac coming up fast.
Teevesnacks wrote: »wrlifeboil wrote: »Teevesnacks wrote: »You know what game has these features? World of Warcraft, you should check it out....
Don't even joke about it like that. The pull of WoW is strong with the new xpac coming up fast.
I ain't even joking, I played wow since launch and it served me well for many years until I completely burned out
Quel_Drathon wrote: »Teevesnacks wrote: »wrlifeboil wrote: »Teevesnacks wrote: »You know what game has these features? World of Warcraft, you should check it out....
Don't even joke about it like that. The pull of WoW is strong with the new xpac coming up fast.
I ain't even joking, I played wow since launch and it served me well for many years until I completely burned out
WoW is the mother or root MMO for milions of players, it's pull is never a joke.