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ESO got a BAD Review.
I like this game don't get me wrong but things are just wrong. Elder Scrolls Online just isn't what people expect it to be. My friends got the game, just didn't do it for him and yes he was an MMO players.
This game before it came out, I was so hype. So damn hype, whenever I see someone saying bad things about this game on YouTube, I immediately went ape ****. But after the beta, my hype just went in the toiler. The Graphic isn't as good as the trailers. The game play was plain. The imperial edition threw me off. I didn't mind the subscription fee, in fact I support the subscription fee because I want this game to succeed, for the developers to expand in numbers to create more contents. Yet after all the negativity, I still bought the game. Why? maybe its because its Elder Scrolls and I want it to succeed. I don't want to see my favorite franchise ruined by a rookie company that probably never played Elder Scrolls longer then 100 hours of gameplay.
Most Reviews about this game is terrible. Numbers do not lie, you know when you're getting a 5, a 6 and a 7.8 you know there is something wrong.
You can hate me for putting this out there but number doesn't lie. Its out there and people know its out there. You can say 7.8, 6 and a 5 is okay but it isn't. Games don't publish and advertise their game saying, "we got 7.8 from IGN so buy our game" LMAO
IGN gave Skyrim 9.5/10
IGN gave ESO 7.8/10
Gamespot gave ESO 6/10
Gamespot gave Skyrim 9/10
Angryjoe gave Skyrim 10/10
Angryjoe gave ESO 5/10
The list goes on and on. I haven't seen a review that gave this game a higher percentage then that of its previous Elder Scrolls Game. There is just so many things wrong about this game in so many levels. This game feels more like an MMO then an Elder Scrolls. And it isn't a good MMO at least in my opinion. its decent at best.
If I have to give a few things of improvement here it is
"World Vs World" You can't see any other players from other faction beside Cyrodil. Who came up with that idea? that excitement of open world pvp is not in this game. That feeling of getting jump by another players at any moment while you're questing is completely not there.
"Make the game feel like an Elder Scrolls" This game got the look of Elder Scrolls, but not the heart and the soul. There is no thieving, no player housing, no sprint power attack, no travel anywhere you want, no freedom to explore. List goes on.
"Durability" needs work. When you attack a boss and die, you get better from your mistake. But in this game, you get worse and worse little by little instead of improvement. Who the hell came out with this idea?
and make the damn imperial edition open to everyone else. they can keep the mount, but the imperial race being locked to a payment is funny. even World of Warcraft, don't lock their expansion's race. They changed that back in 2011 realizing how terrible it was.
this game is going free to play and it will go free to play. unless big things changes.
you know you're going to get 100% full honesty.
Edited by socomhdsb16_ESO on 12 May 2014 02:00 This game before it came out, I was so hype. So damn hype, whenever I see someone saying bad things about this game on YouTube, I immediately went ape ****. But after the beta, my hype just went in the toiler. The Graphic isn't as good as the trailers. The game play was plain. The imperial edition threw me off. I didn't mind the subscription fee, in fact I support the subscription fee because I want this game to succeed, for the developers to expand in numbers to create more contents. Yet after all the negativity, I still bought the game. Why? maybe its because its Elder Scrolls and I want it to succeed. I don't want to see my favorite franchise ruined by a rookie company that probably never played Elder Scrolls longer then 100 hours of gameplay.
Most Reviews about this game is terrible. Numbers do not lie, you know when you're getting a 5, a 6 and a 7.8 you know there is something wrong.
You can hate me for putting this out there but number doesn't lie. Its out there and people know its out there. You can say 7.8, 6 and a 5 is okay but it isn't. Games don't publish and advertise their game saying, "we got 7.8 from IGN so buy our game" LMAO
IGN gave Skyrim 9.5/10
IGN gave ESO 7.8/10
Gamespot gave ESO 6/10
Gamespot gave Skyrim 9/10
Angryjoe gave Skyrim 10/10
Angryjoe gave ESO 5/10
The list goes on and on. I haven't seen a review that gave this game a higher percentage then that of its previous Elder Scrolls Game. There is just so many things wrong about this game in so many levels. This game feels more like an MMO then an Elder Scrolls. And it isn't a good MMO at least in my opinion. its decent at best.
If I have to give a few things of improvement here it is
"World Vs World" You can't see any other players from other faction beside Cyrodil. Who came up with that idea? that excitement of open world pvp is not in this game. That feeling of getting jump by another players at any moment while you're questing is completely not there.
"Make the game feel like an Elder Scrolls" This game got the look of Elder Scrolls, but not the heart and the soul. There is no thieving, no player housing, no sprint power attack, no travel anywhere you want, no freedom to explore. List goes on.
"Durability" needs work. When you attack a boss and die, you get better from your mistake. But in this game, you get worse and worse little by little instead of improvement. Who the hell came out with this idea?
and make the damn imperial edition open to everyone else. they can keep the mount, but the imperial race being locked to a payment is funny. even World of Warcraft, don't lock their expansion's race. They changed that back in 2011 realizing how terrible it was.
this game is going free to play and it will go free to play. unless big things changes.
you know you're going to get 100% full honesty.
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Ragnafrak✭✭Agreed. Player base had a lot of expectations coming in that are being fulfilled too slowly for most players.
I'm the last member of my group of friends to keep playing ESO, but i'm also the one with the least amount of time to play and get burnt out.
The more I play, the less I have to look forward to doing.
The "road ahead" post has 99% of what I want from this game, but being in "active development" doesn't tell me much about when I can look forward to playing the game that I was hoping to have bought 2 months ago.2 -
Hearts✭✭✭that excitement of open world pvp is not in this game. That feeling of getting jump by another players at any moment while you're questing is completely not there.
If that would have happened it wouldnt have been excitement.. it would have been more of a
"Cmoon, im farming over here ASHOLE!, Can i just pick this node?.. Oki here goes, im VR10 and youre Level 48 so we know how this is going to end anyway.."
Everything you say is fine but i would not like PvP everywhere, maybe if i had the decision to turn PvP off like in PvE realms.Edited by Hearts on 12 May 2014 00:193 -
that excitement of open world pvp is not in this game. That feeling of getting jump by another players at any moment while you're questing is completely not there.
If that would have happened it wouldnt have been excitement.. it would have been more of a
"Cmoon, im farming over here ASHOLE!, Can i just pick this node?.. Oki here goes, im VR10 and youre Level 48 so we know how this is going to end anyway.."
Everything you say is fine but i would not like PvP everywhere, maybe if i had the decision to turn PvP off like in PvE realms.
It isn't your fault, this game should of made a choice for players to play on a PVE realm or a PVP open world PVP realm.
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Caduryn✭✭✭socomhdsb16_ESO wrote: »
"Make the game feel like an Elder Scrolls" This game got the look of Elder Scrolls, but not the heart and the soul. There is no thieving, no player housing, no sprint power attack, no travel anywhere you want, no freedom to explore. List goes on.
B = Äh.....what??
And thieving and player housing is planned.
And, no one ever told it will be "Skyrim-Online".
And, i still get my TES feeling.7 -
Doctoruniverse✭✭✭Yeah you are properly right about that.
In all honesty I really don't give a *** about what people from IGN says or any other reviewer for that matter. But the fact that regular players are being punished for what bots are doing in the game is just silly.
Right now im VR 10. PvP is very boring. All I need is to sit and farm wayrest sewers all day until I have all worm cult pieces.
Did you say you like riding on ultraslow horses for 95% of the time in a PvP area. ESO IS THE GAME FOR YOU!!!
Grinding is useless in this game because the more creatures you damage the more you end up with a repair bill.
The latency in pvp is intolerable on all levels. megaserver? more like mega-laggy-server.
Zenimax your time is up. Your concept has fallen to the ground crashing and no one wants to stand with poo in the hand.5 -
Kyle_Roberts✭✭✭socomhdsb16_ESO wrote: »Angryjoe gave Skyrim 10/10
Angryjoe gave ESO 5/10
Yup this product of incest gives the game a bad review/rating so it must be failure.
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socomhdsb16_ESO wrote: »
"Make the game feel like an Elder Scrolls" This game got the look of Elder Scrolls, but not the heart and the soul. There is no thieving, no player housing, no sprint power attack, no travel anywhere you want, no freedom to explore. List goes on.
B = Äh.....what??
And thieving and player housing is planned.
And, no one ever told it will be "Skyrim-Online".
And, i still get my TES feeling.
Man if you try to swim away from your main island, you should see what happen.
If you travel to far from your "mini zone" you will be murked by npc higher levels then you. All in one zone.Kyle_Roberts wrote: »Angryjoe gave Skyrim 10/10
Angryjoe gave ESO 5/10
Yup this product of incest gives the game a bad review/rating so it must be failure.
Well you can say that to every other reviews out there.
Its reviews, if reviews say the game are decent or a little been above average then that isn't a good sign. Elder Scrolls game usually don't get bad reviews from critics but this one however.
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Kyle_Roberts✭✭✭socomhdsb16_ESO wrote: »Well you can say that to every other reviews out there.
Its reviews, if reviews say the game are decent or a little been above average then that isn't a good sign. Elder Scrolls game usually don't get bad reviews from critics but this one however.
How you can class him as a critic is beyond me... He just shouts and thinks hes funny when really he's about as funny as cancer.
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Nox_Aeterna✭✭✭✭✭
✭Well i hope the devs show something soon , cause my patience is running dry of waiting.
The balance in this game is horrible and i want to see which direction the devs will take this.
Unless they show they actually intend to make sure your class choice is not a deciding factor to your role , i will be leaving and i wont ever even bother to look back."Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."
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BrassRazoo✭✭✭✭✭I love my girlfriend I think she is beautiful.
My friends think she is just "ok".
I think I will just continue to believe she is beautiful.
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Harbingers✭✭✭✭✭Any professional review that gives anything a 1/10 or 10/10 is discounted immediately.
"Angryjoe gave Skyrim 10/10
Angryjoe gave ESO 5/10"~ Immersion is no substitute for Exposition ~
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Kyle_Roberts wrote: »socomhdsb16_ESO wrote: »Well you can say that to every other reviews out there.
Its reviews, if reviews say the game are decent or a little been above average then that isn't a good sign. Elder Scrolls game usually don't get bad reviews from critics but this one however.
How you can class him as a critic is beyond me... He just shouts and thinks hes funny when really he's about as funny as cancer.Harbingers wrote: »Any professional review that gives anything a 1/10 or 10/10 is discounted immediately.
"Angryjoe gave Skyrim 10/10
Angryjoe gave ESO 5/10"
Considering he has the most viewed reviews then that of IGN and GameSpot and 1.8 million subscribers. Yeah he is funny to :P He doesn't give any game a 10/10. In fact, most games he review gets below a 9.
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Alphashado✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Game has issues. What game doesn't? But at the end of the day, nobody gives a rat's arse about reviews. Do you give two turds what a movie critic says about a movie? In fact, how often do you agree with movie critics? Exactly. There is an endless list of movies that got terrible reviews and went on to be smash hits.
Reviews mean nothing. The only accurate review is the number of subs ESO keeps. So until we see some solid numbers, the critics can cram it.3 -
Alphashado wrote: »Game has issues. What game doesn't? But at the end of the day, nobody gives a rat's arse about reviews. Do you give two turds what a movie critic says about a movie? In fact, how often do you agree with movie critics? Exactly. There is an endless list of movies that got terrible reviews and went on to be smash hits.
Reviews mean nothing. The only accurate review is the number of subs ESO keeps. So until we see some solid numbers, the critics can cram it.
Lol, people give rat ass about reviews. Maybe that's just you and some other people.
But reviews influences a lot of people believe it or not.
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Nox_Aeterna✭✭✭✭✭
✭Alphashado wrote: »Game has issues. What game doesn't? But at the end of the day, nobody gives a rat's arse about reviews. Do you give two turds what a movie critic says about a movie? In fact, how often do you agree with movie critics? Exactly. There is an endless list of movies that got terrible reviews and went on to be smash hits.
Reviews mean nothing. The only accurate review is the number of subs ESO keeps. So until we see some solid numbers, the critics can cram it.
Yeah right , but ... that is not how the world works mate.
If nobody cared about reviews , there would not be tons and tons of sites that give them , there would not be people on yotutube that pretty much only review things with an absurd number of subscribers either and so on.
The simple fact is , people check reviews and if they are bad or good does influence a LOT of people."Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."
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Caduryn✭✭✭socomhdsb16_ESO wrote: »Alphashado wrote: »Game has issues. What game doesn't? But at the end of the day, nobody gives a rat's arse about reviews. Do you give two turds what a movie critic says about a movie? In fact, how often do you agree with movie critics? Exactly. There is an endless list of movies that got terrible reviews and went on to be smash hits.
Reviews mean nothing. The only accurate review is the number of subs ESO keeps. So until we see some solid numbers, the critics can cram it.
Lol, people give rat ass about reviews. Maybe that's just you and some other people.
Well tbh everyone listening to a Review is.....well....not smart.
Its like not eating, drinking or buying anything special because "some" Reviewer dont like it, and thats just stupid.
I mean...if someone tells that jumping of this Bridge is good, do you think im doing it, just because he told??
Think again!! Think for you self!!, dont let others think for you!1 -
Tipsy✭✭✭Haha Kyle you made my evening,and you are right there about angryjoe..I'd sooner let my dog's paw select a game for me.
Give both PVE and PVP players 100 procent of the content I'd say..socomhdsb16_ESO wrote: »It isn't your fault, this game should of made a choice for players to play on a PVE realm or a PVP open world PVP realm.
Pve players that absolutely want nothing to do with pvp are pretty locked off from Cyrodiil.For pvpers its a slight annoyance that they can't fight anywhere probably too
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/462527/champion-of-the-gods-deadra-worship-cp-to-next-level
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/464219/out-of-combat-personality-mood-actionbar
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/279458/content-packs-for-organizing-guild-events
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/276626/suggestion-alliance-specific-justice-system-revisit-the-innocent-npc-label0 -
socomhdsb16_ESO wrote: »Alphashado wrote: »Game has issues. What game doesn't? But at the end of the day, nobody gives a rat's arse about reviews. Do you give two turds what a movie critic says about a movie? In fact, how often do you agree with movie critics? Exactly. There is an endless list of movies that got terrible reviews and went on to be smash hits.
Reviews mean nothing. The only accurate review is the number of subs ESO keeps. So until we see some solid numbers, the critics can cram it.
Lol, people give rat ass about reviews. Maybe that's just you and some other people.
Well tbh everyone listening to a Review is.....well....not smart.
Its like not eating, drinking or buying anything special because "some" Reviewer dont like it, and thats just stupid.
I mean...if someone tells that jumping of this Bridge is good, do you think im doing it, just because he told??
Think again!! Think for you self!!, dont let others think for you!
!2, maybe 14. But no older then that. Anyone got another bet?
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Glurin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭A lot of critics pre-launch expected Skyrim 2: Multiplayer Edition and were a bit shell shocked by the change in tone that happens not just from single player to multiplayer, but from single player to MMO. They also hated the idea of a monthly fee so much that many of them panned the game and ranted about the fee as their justification for doing so.
I suspect much of that sentiment remained after launch.
Add to that the world famous impatience of the MMO crowd and their incessant need to call every new MMO a WoW clone.
Not saying the game is a perfect 10. Just that it's been fairly obvious that these factors have colored the critics' opinions.
Also, there is no "excitement" in open world PvP. Only the deafening sound of millions of "cancel subscription" buttons being pressed. It's bad enough just trying to get the skyshards in Cyrodiil, let alone the quests, resources and other achievements. Having all other progress routinely brought to a screeching halt by some *** with nothing better to do than cause misery is not my idea of a fun time.Edited by Glurin on 12 May 2014 00:56"He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster...when you gaze long into the abyss the abyss also gazes into you..."6 -
Caduryn✭✭✭socomhdsb16_ESO wrote: »socomhdsb16_ESO wrote: »Alphashado wrote: »Game has issues. What game doesn't? But at the end of the day, nobody gives a rat's arse about reviews. Do you give two turds what a movie critic says about a movie? In fact, how often do you agree with movie critics? Exactly. There is an endless list of movies that got terrible reviews and went on to be smash hits.
Reviews mean nothing. The only accurate review is the number of subs ESO keeps. So until we see some solid numbers, the critics can cram it.
Lol, people give rat ass about reviews. Maybe that's just you and some other people.
Well tbh everyone listening to a Review is.....well....not smart.
Its like not eating, drinking or buying anything special because "some" Reviewer dont like it, and thats just stupid.
I mean...if someone tells that jumping of this Bridge is good, do you think im doing it, just because he told??
Think again!! Think for you self!!, dont let others think for you!
!2, maybe 14. But no older then that. Anyone got another bet?
37 if you mean my age, Sorry that you failed.
But well, what els can come from someone listening on "Reviews". ^^Edited by Caduryn on 12 May 2014 00:580 -
Harbingers✭✭✭✭✭socomhdsb16_ESO wrote: »Kyle_Roberts wrote: »socomhdsb16_ESO wrote: »Well you can say that to every other reviews out there.
Its reviews, if reviews say the game are decent or a little been above average then that isn't a good sign. Elder Scrolls game usually don't get bad reviews from critics but this one however.
How you can class him as a critic is beyond me... He just shouts and thinks hes funny when really he's about as funny as cancer.Harbingers wrote: »Any professional review that gives anything a 1/10 or 10/10 is discounted immediately.
"Angryjoe gave Skyrim 10/10
Angryjoe gave ESO 5/10"
Considering he has the most viewed reviews then that of IGN and GameSpot and 1.8 million subscribers. Yeah he is funny to :P He doesn't give any game a 10/10. In fact, most games he review gets below a 9.
Sounds like you got a lil crush... did you ask him out yet?~ Immersion is no substitute for Exposition ~
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Mortuum✭✭✭✭No its not just him and ''few'' people. Normal people have their own opinion they dont need angryidiot to tell them what is good. I just feel sad for another 1.8 mil angry idiots following it.
But hey some random jerk on net QQ about new game because it is not as he want/wow/skyrim, lets all join him because he is trendy and he knows all...
It is even more then sad...4 -
Arreyanne✭✭✭✭This game is one of the few MMO's Ive played that does not have at least one "OMG THAT WAS AWESOME" moments in it.
It's kind of like, "huh that was OK" and that's the entire bases of the game to be Ok not OMG great2 -
South_of_Heaven✭✭✭socomhdsb16_ESO wrote: »So damn hype, whenever I see someone saying bad things about this game on YouTube, I immediately went ape ****.
I don't mean to blame you or anything, I agree with you in general but let me pick this line so that I can vent a tiny little bit myself and say this:
You know it's technically your guys' "fault" the game is in this state right?
I posted quite a lot on the old Bethesda forums and sometimes youtube and when I criticized various things as they were getting revealed 1-2 years before the game had launched, most went ape **** in their effort to defend it.
What I am trying to say is that customers do have power and if we show to the suits that we don't pay for unfinished and lackluster products and actually learn to criticize (which is not a bad thing at all), their product quality will actually get better, so that they are able to make money.
PS: About the "Road ahead"- what is sad about it is that they will salvage a lot of subscriptions just from a single post they did promising all kinds of cool stuff. People are too gullible unfortunately and if they weren't we would all enjoy better products and services.
PS2: Another sad thing about many people, besides the gullibility, is their tunnel vision. They blame people who did bad reviews because they supposedely expected "skyrim online" as they say but won't admit that these reviews are just because this is a bad innovation-lacking mmo which could be far far more like TES in hundreds of ways, but it's not. It only has the paintjob.Edited by South_of_Heaven on 12 May 2014 01:211 -
Adryssa_Joneley✭✭✭All MMOs have many flaws, as well as their good points. A lot of it also comes down to the general communities attitude toward games in today's age. Its really really REALLY hard to please people now. They have super high unrealistic expectations of game companies to make THEE PERFECT MMO but that will NEVER happen. And this is also a reason why future mmos and current ones are failing. It wouldn't surprise me that MMO style games are dying a slow and painful death, no matter what mmo game it is.
One big problem i do see however is, for an MMO, i am VERY surprised that they never thought of including personal banking slots for your toons/alts. That is a very important aspect in ANY MMO. And with the amount of crafting mats that one can obtain, there is just nowhere to store it so a majority of your game time is spent on sorting your bags all the time which isn't fun after it being one of the main focus of the game in the end.
I wouldn't say the graphics are bad. They look pretty decent for an MMO game. But really, graphics shouldn't have to be too important anyways to justify a quality of a game. Look at WoW and its old graphics and yet its still a joy to play, with a vast amount of content.
There could be so many positives and negatives to list, but what i always say. To each their own. If you enjoy something, then play it. IF not, well, there are other games. Its impossible to please everybody. It's too early yet to really say whether this game will fail or has failed but there have been other games that were bad but then many player base came back and is thriving. I hope this game won't become f2p, (not just yet anyway) and i guess all we can really do is see what they come up with as far as future content. But if i were them, i would certainly at least try to fix many issues before introducing new content. One of the most important ones at the moment is the billing. Many are double billed and many are billed but locked out of their game due to "game time expired" even though money was received on their end. Though, my understanding is they are working on the issue.
But as far as reviews go, each should judge a game or anything for that matter for themselves. If i had listened to reviews in the past, i would have missed out on some really neat stuff. Like LOTRO had average reviews and people bagged it, but i tried it and it turned out to be a brilliant game. Probably one of my favorites. So reviews are just OTHER people's opinions really.
Ok i am probably rambling now.. so I'm gonna post this off. My two cents worth.
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Alphashado✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Nox_Aeterna wrote: »Alphashado wrote: »Game has issues. What game doesn't? But at the end of the day, nobody gives a rat's arse about reviews. Do you give two turds what a movie critic says about a movie? In fact, how often do you agree with movie critics? Exactly. There is an endless list of movies that got terrible reviews and went on to be smash hits.
Reviews mean nothing. The only accurate review is the number of subs ESO keeps. So until we see some solid numbers, the critics can cram it.
Yeah right , but ... that is not how the world works mate.
If nobody cared about reviews , there would not be tons and tons of sites that give them , there would not be people on yotutube that pretty much only review things with an absurd number of subscribers either and so on.
The simple fact is , people check reviews and if they are bad or good does influence a LOT of people.
Boondock Saints got a 1/5 review from Rotton Tomatoes and most other "critics" meanwhile if you check IMDB, it has a 4.5/5 viewer review and has elvolved into a smash hit cult classic. The list goes on and on for every genre of entertainment. I would be happy to give more examples, but I'm on my phone.
People and "followers" flock to bad reviews for the same reason they slow down on highway to look at a wreck. The National Enquirer sells millions of copies. Does that make it truthful or accurate journalism?
Bad reviews are good business for the people in the business of giving reviews.
The ONLY reviews that matter to me and people that aren't sheep is their own review and subscription numbers.
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TicToc✭✭✭You lose all validity by comparing reviews of a single player game to those of an MMO. The idea that this would be a multiplayer version of Skyrim was cleared up a long time ago. This was never meant to be that. It is simply an MMO set in the Elder Scrolls world. The game "feels like an MMO", because it IS an MMO, and was always meant to be an MMO, but some people will never let that go and accept the game for what it is.
I actually think that the biggest problem with the game is that they have tried too hard to make the game feel more like the other TES games to appeal to the fans of the series. Efforts that will never be appreciated by most of the people they were intended to appeal to. They probably would have been better served by purely focusing on making a really great MMORPG.
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