Skull Crusher AD you win

kevinride1ub17_ESO

The problem is the leaderboard, The AD players at the top are starving for kills to stay there. We have 2 guild in competition for the top spots. Right now I am #1 but have little chance of seeing Emperor because we have so many people defending our side. EP made a big push last night and my whole guild sat out and watched the other guild and pugs have no problem pushing them back. Same thing happened today, the DC make a even bigger push and we sat back and watch as 1 guild and the pugs pushed them back to the gates again. THORKER

Dleatherus

kevinride1ub17_ESO wrote: »

The problem is the leaderboard, The AD players at the top are starving for kills to stay there. We have 2 guild in competition for the top spots. Right now I am #1 but have little chance of seeing Emperor because we have so many people defending our side. EP made a big push last night and my whole guild sat out and watched the other guild and pugs have no problem pushing them back. Same thing happened today, the DC make a even bigger push and we sat back and watch as 1 guild and the pugs pushed them back to the gates again. THORKER

I have a suggestion - since both of us have been emperor, how about we step up and both quit the campaign and then rejoin it - let's give some others a chance - doesn't bother me whether next on list is noore or ajsa

a goodwill gesture like this would go a long way

are you up for it?

if you are i would even abdicate now if you give your word - that would leave the campaign without an emperor

nobody could take emperor again until all AD inner keeps were taken - which could encourage DC and EP to come out

man enough?

D.

Windscreamer

This was slated to be the unofficial RP-PVP campaign. Once I finally got enough points to move this to my home it was a ghost town. RP-PVP experiment decimated. It seems the RP community hits road blocks every where they turn in this game.

Saturday night, not a whisper in zone chat on EP side. It's just sad.

kevinride1ub17_ESO

I will not quit the campaign after putting so much work into it. I have made many friends here.

I think the best thing would be for you to step down and take the bulk of your guild with you to another server. It is obvious that you are not liked here.(weird guild names capturing keeps) Also people from your guild high on the leaderboard that would like to stay and continue at a chance for Emporer stay. They are welcome to stay and do there own thing.Or better yet work with us on team speak or any other manner to fight back the opposition and work together as a team in the campaign to accomplish goals, there is no reason for us to be rivals.

Dleatherus

given that i am the current emperor, i have just as much if not more, to lose - the leaving would be for a 24 hours and then we rejoin - it's how the mechanics work - you lose none of your friends and get to play with them as usual
- you yourself said: " Right now I am #1 but have little chance of seeing Emperor"

i have put forward a reasonable solution that benefits the whole campaign - not just you or me - i was trying to make it clear that neither of us were being selfish - i'm willing to prove it - are you?

i was sure a hardcore pvp'er like yourself would welcome this opportunity to bring back hardcore pvp to the campaign - ah well

D.,

ralonasan

RP-PVP doesn't exist. not with the ability to switch campaigns in an instant and without labels for campaigns. An unofficial decision to make this campaign RP isn't going to stop non RPers (like myself and my guild) from coming here. 90% of the EP on SC since early access had no idea it was for RPers.

Sorry @Windscreamer‌

Also, it has come to my attention that we are being Zerged constantly to stop thorker from attaining emporer. You AD need to change your tampons and figure your crap out. There are literally 12-20 of us EP that constantly play here and we don't mind fighting twice our numbers because it's still fun; but when you need 50 or more people to take me and my group of 12 out. that's just pathetic.

I'm surprised you guys aren't just letting us and DC flip the map for you so you can farm emperor for your guilds with all of the exploiting and other BS i've witnessed.

Just last night I watched AD repair the inner wall while it was being hit by 11 siege.... How's that happen?

Anyway, if any of you want to get smashed cause you have no idea how to play your classes, i'll be waiting at our southern gate... which you all LOVE to camp.

/endrant

Ralo Nasan

Ratuky

I have better suggestion, stop wining like a bunch of 3rd graders. Stop posting to see your self Babbling. If you don't like were you are playing move to a diff server. We didn't pay to see a bunch of baby's crying in a game. Leave this Thorker guy alone, go back to your room and have your mom read a bedtime story get some sleep and get over it. You guys just need a hug. Just a game not a real life situation here

Suenaga

ralonasan wrote: »

DC starts pushing and you zerg them. How is that fun for you? really really sad....

Cheapshot wrote: »

wow you can't let DC even take one keep before sending the zerg. That is pathetic. Keep beating the crippled kid since that's about all you know how to do. Can't wait till subs expire

We are actually letting them (DC) get a keep usually when most of us are out and in our guest campaign. And in fairness to them, they are giving us a good and challenging fight mostly at Warden or Rayles. I must also give props to Ellowen and his/her guild for keeping up the fight and being persistent until late nights. I really do hope EP could do this as well as they have more in numbers compared to DC doing it in a daily basis.

Cheapshot wrote: »

You've completely killed any PUG players on the server and the guilds are falling apart because of AD zerging the small numbers of players we can gather (takes hours) before we even make it passed our home keeps.

Apparently, we need to do something when some of our inner keeps started to get under attacked and flipped in a couple of mins with no single gate or walls are down then suddenly scroll starts to move. You must've been using DK's pretty well.

kevinride1ub17_ESO wrote: »

I will not quit the campaign after putting so much work into it. I have made many friends here.

Looks like you didn't get what D is trying to point out.

kevinride1ub17_ESO wrote: »

EP made a big push last night and my whole guild sat out and watched the other guild and pugs have no problem pushing them back.

Yah it's damn strange that you are just sitting pretty and watching while your alliance points are skyrocketing.

kevinride1ub17_ESO wrote: »

Or better yet work with us on team speak or any other manner to fight back the opposition and work together as a team in the campaign to accomplish goals, there is no reason for us to be rivals.

Sounds good but, is it still necessary on the current situation of the campaign while you and your guild actually just wanna sit back and watch lose the keeps for your personal advantage? We, specially the zone chat knows your pure intentions.

Cheapshot

@ratuky no one cares what you have to say so /ignore

Dleatherus we have no chance of even getting emperor even for 5 seconds when pugs + the zerg comes and crushes us at every turn. It has gotten so bad that not one keep on EP side was even attempted on a saturday night because god forbid we actually own a keep or get a scroll.

Cheapshot

I forgot what the inside of a keep looks like

Dleatherus

@Cheapshot‌

i hear you - i'm trying to offer a reasonable solution that would hopefully end the rivalry for AP within AD, thus freeing up some breathing space for you on EP and DC

i can only stress that my opinion is that ALL campaigns should be reset NOW, only 3-4 campaigns re-opened to ensure the opportunity for population balancing, and only open up new campaigns as the other campaigns fill up

though it sounds logical, it comes with a whole myriad of complications, not the least of which includes some folks who would complain about losing some AP - and those folks are in every campaign, not just this one

campaigns should be set for a 14 day period to start since i believe other things need to be ironed out, including existing exploits, and only open up campaigns for longer periods of time once the exploits are under control

emperors should only be allowed to serve once per campaign - once they are dethroned they keep their leaderboard status and ranking and points, and if the throne is captured, the crown goes to the next highest person on that alliances leaderboard who hasn't been an emperor yet - would cut out a lot of this petty stuff - think of it that an alliance wouldn't want to recrown an emperor who had already lost the throne once


however the reality is, is that we have what we have, and need to make the best of it ourselves, hence my proposal

i tried

D.

Cheapshot

@dleatherus Emperor stuff is not the problem. We have no shot at pushing past our home keeps to even consider the odds of holding off any dc and ad at the same time to get emperor. The Zerg groups prevent pugs from pushing and the guilds are losing their numbers or flat out leaving. Somethings got to give eventually.

Rykoth

The problem is AD has all the scrolls, and all the keeps. Sometimes there will be a night in which we taken Warden, Rayles, and Glademist.... and that's it. It becomes yellow overnight.

How about let DC and EP have their own home keeps for a change? Give us a chance to regroup. Give us a chance to be aggressors. You guys obviously have strategy/skill. So... why not use it to defend? Why do you have to conquer us to our gates? It's obvious you'll win the campaign.

Phoenix99

Rykoth wrote: »

The problem is AD has all the scrolls, and all the keeps. Sometimes there will be a night in which we taken Warden, Rayles, and Glademist.... and that's it. It becomes yellow overnight.

How about let DC and EP have their own home keeps for a change? Give us a chance to regroup. Give us a chance to be aggressors. You guys obviously have strategy/skill. So... why not use it to defend? Why do you have to conquer us to our gates? It's obvious you'll win the campaign.

TBH, we managed to paint the map blue (got emperor for couple of hours and quite a few scrolls) like 2 weeks ago or something like that, but then once the prime hours were gone it became yellow again, similar to what's going on on AB. That was probably the last straw for many DC players on SC

limeli8

Dleatherus is awesome and him willing to step down as Emp and leave campaign along with Thorker to benefit campaign as a whole really shows true emperor like qualities (sacrificing yourself for your people) you RP guys should appreciate that. Thorker quite obviously just wants his emperorship and is unwilling to sacrifice that ambition, it does not however make him a bad person or anything like that.
You EP and DC guys probably know (i hope you do) that a lot of other campaigns are EP or DC dominated. And guild/players from those campaigns get bored and want come guest and fight as underdogs for a change somewhere else. So all you have to to is to find some help in other campaigns. As an example one of my guilds (AD) that happens to be probably one of the most hard core pvp guilds out there while still being rather small (about 30 vr10s) does this all the time. We go to campaigns that we can fight the overwhelming odds at and get better points and have a lot more fun! Also we often help AD to ether take or defend Emp when asked. In fact I've even proposed that we'd officially become a merc guild (the whole RP thing) that people could hire to come help them, seems like it could be a fun concept.

manny254

limeli8 wrote: »

Dleatherus is awesome and him willing to step down as Emp and leave campaign along with Thorker to benefit campaign as a whole really shows true emperor like qualities (sacrificing yourself for your people) you RP guys should appreciate that. Thorker quite obviously just wants his emperorship and is unwilling to sacrifice that ambition, it does not however make him a bad person or anything like that.

Look at the Leader Board he is not selfless he wants to give members of his guild emperor not help the server. I am sad that so many are blind to his real motivation.

ralonasan

limeli8 wrote: »

Dleatherus is awesome and him willing to step down as Emp and leave campaign along with Thorker to benefit campaign as a whole really shows true emperor like qualities (sacrificing yourself for your people) you RP guys should appreciate that. Thorker quite obviously just wants his emperorship and is unwilling to sacrifice that ambition, it does not however make him a bad person or anything like that.
You EP and DC guys probably know (i hope you do) that a lot of other campaigns are EP or DC dominated. And guild/players from those campaigns get bored and want come guest and fight as underdogs for a change somewhere else. So all you have to to is to find some help in other campaigns. As an example one of my guilds (AD) that happens to be probably one of the most hard core pvp guilds out there while still being rather small (about 30 vr10s) does this all the time. We go to campaigns that we can fight the overwhelming odds at and get better points and have a lot more fun! Also we often help AD to ether take or defend Emp when asked. In fact I've even proposed that we'd officially become a merc guild (the whole RP thing) that people could hire to come help them, seems like it could be a fun concept.

What game are you playing? There is no EP dominated server.

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Even goldbrand is mostly tied between the three factions. Ignore the scores and look at the keep distribution. The servers where EP has a strong presence or is "winning" point wise are the most back and forth keep wise and balanced.

Also D talks a nice game but is doing everything he can to ensure EP and DC stay face down in the dirt so he doesn't lose emperorship and it stays out of Thorker hands.

Everyone has their own selfish motivation so stop lying to yourself. Why do you think me and my guild hassle you clowns so much for a fair fight? Because when you "people" don't outnumber us 10 to 1 you get rolled over and we take the map!

Dleatherus

Also D talks a nice game but is doing everything he can to ensure EP and DC stay face down in the dirt so he doesn't lose emperorship and it stays out of Thorker hands.

if i was worried about losing emperorship, i wouldn't offer a solution that was based upon me losing it - that we don't want it in Thorker's hands is common knowledge

perhaps if you have a little attitude adjustment and stop calling folks clowns we can get somewhere in terms of working something out

otherwise see you in skull crusher

your call

D.

ralonasan

My attitude adjustment will come. I challenge you and your clowns. 5v5 no siege any group comp on a neutral campaign.

PS. You leaving the campaign doesn't pass emp. Only flipping keeps does. Your solution is flawed.

ralonasan

If you want my respect, come earn it.

Dleatherus

between thorker rallying zone to not defend anything, and your superior fighting skills, you should be able to knock us clowns off the throne before this afternoon - sooner if you use the ninja keep and scroll captures again

see you in skull crusher

D.

ralonasan

Dleatherus wrote: »

see you in skull crusher

D.

So, is that a no?

Dleatherus

i think we can arrange a 5v5 if you're wanting to do it to have some fun

i presume we each want to bring our best 5?

D.

ralonasan

Dleatherus wrote: »

i think we can arrange a 5v5 if you're wanting to do it to have some fun

i presume we each want to bring our best 5?

D.

Great! and yes, our best 5. Message me

Dleatherus

sent - lemme know if you got it - i can't find an 'sent' box to confirm

Dleatherus

for those following the conversation, the Noore have accepted the challenge and we're amiably figuring out with our challengers via messages a time on wed or thurs nite to have some fun competition

we invite others from EP or DC in Skull Crusher who might be interested in these 'friendly' death matches to message me and see if we can set something up

if you have a group that's new to pvp and are lower level don't worry, we'll try and arrange something to be on an equal footing - we also have members new to pvp and sub VR ranks that also would enjoy a crack at something like this - would be good fun and a learning experience for both sides

D.

Phoenix99

Dleatherus wrote: »

for those following the conversation, the Noore have accepted the challenge and we're amiably figuring out with our challengers via messages a time on wed or thurs nite to have some fun competition

we invite others from EP or DC in Skull Crusher who might be interested in these 'friendly' death matches to message me and see if we can set something up

if you have a group that's new to pvp and are lower level don't worry, we'll try and arrange something to be on an equal footing - we also have members new to pvp and sub VR ranks that also would enjoy a crack at something like this - would be good fun and a learning experience for both sides

D.

NEED someone to record that

Dleatherus

i'm fairly sure both sides will have cameras rolling!

D.

bobbyx

I would record it if i was not going to get ganked when getting there. lol, but im interested to see who will win!

Cheapshot

all we need is cyox and its over.