[VIDEO] Smallscale is dead?

FakeZavos

3vs24+ Roughly speaking. Remember to always do a head count of the people your actually fighting and don't loose sight. You'd be surprised how often we come across other guilds fighting less pugs than their own numbers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGM6fppt-Y0

Warraxx

not a single bombard... i say hacks! :P

Aerenthir

Imagine how bad the state of the game is, when people who are able to trigger their skills are called cheaters. I like that addon that shows the CD on Bloodspawn though. What is it called?

FakeZavos

Aerenthir wrote: »

Imagine how bad the state of the game is, when people who are able to trigger their skills are called cheaters. I like that addon that shows the CD on Bloodspawn though. What is it called?

I know right . The addon is called "Cooldowns"

L_Nici

Anyone can do it. Just have a warden with Arctic storm and the necros do the rest with the coloss, that really is nothing special.
That doesn't mean its bad it requires a good organization and timing, but its nothing to show of with. The reason you did that good wasn't that you are good, but because the enemies where pretty dumb. It was the standard Pugzerg from Blackreach EU as soon as the enemies would be organized you wouldn't go far with your playstyle.

Aliyavana

3-4 people are considered a ball group now? Lol

TheMightyRevan

L_Nici wrote: »

Anyone can do it. Just have a warden with Arctic storm and the necros do the rest with the coloss, that really is nothing special.
That doesn't mean its bad it requires a good organization and timing, but its nothing to show of with. The reason you did that good wasn't that you are good, but because the enemies where pretty dumb.

you apparently have never done anything like this because then you would know its NOT that easy, not anyone can do it. it requires a decent amount of skill and practice to do a 3v20 no matter which situation or which enemies

L_Nici

As a matter of fact I actually have. Even though it was a double Templar pairing and not warden+necro. We completely destroyed the random zerg, the very same you face here, just one jump in and everyone went down like nothing.
But that was not because of skill. It was because of the class carrying us, like you got carried here.

Also it is obvious that no total noob could pull that of, if I say anyone can do it, I mean that everyone with the right amount of training can do it in the end.

Hexys

It is actually insane, the general player mentality has become so negative. 3 players in a organized small group killing quite the larger numbers is a nice achievement and well done. Not understanding the game, calling 3 man a ball group, aoe cancer, nothing special...

Were is the little appreciation...

TheMightyRevan

L_Nici wrote: »

As a matter of fact I actually have. Even though it was a double Templar pairing and not warden+necro. We completely destroyed the random zerg, the very same you face here, just one jump in and everyone went down like nothing.
But that was not because of skill. It was because of the class carrying us, like you got carried here.

one jump is something different, did you not watch it, its a whole fight where they actually manage to take the keep in the end. that is very difficult

Tammany

Hexys wrote: »

It is actually insane, the general player mentality has become so negative. 3 players in a organized small group killing quite the larger numbers is a nice achievement and well done.

Just describes perfectly how balanced this game is.
It's not possible to 3 vs 30 in any other pvp game just by facetanking damage.

FakeZavos

L_Nici wrote: »

As a matter of fact I actually have. Even though it was a double Templar pairing and not warden+necro. We completely destroyed the random zerg, the very same you face here, just one jump in and everyone went down like nothing.
But that was not because of skill. It was because of the class carrying us, like you got carried here.

Dropping on a ram on top of some unexpecting pugs is different then actively fighting in a keep while being heavely outnumbered. And that you did that once is nice. But we have fights like this all the time. And wich class is carrying us in this group exactly? Because we have done this with so many different classes and setups that it hardly matter wich classes we have with us. Aslong as there is diversity. Check our other video's You will see that we run every sort of class, templar being one of the strongest for groups like this.

Please show me some video's or combat metric's from where you did a continues fight like this instead of 1 "bomb" on a ram with unexpecting pugs. Then we will talk again.

FakeZavos

Tammany wrote: »

Hexys wrote: »

It is actually insane, the general player mentality has become so negative. 3 players in a organized small group killing quite the larger numbers is a nice achievement and well done.

Just describes perfectly how balanced this game is.
It's not possible to 3 vs 30 in any other pvp game just by facetanking damage.

But we arent facetanking the damage. We are constantly using LOS to especially NOT facetank. Because as a matter of fact. We arent even close to tanky enought to facetank.

FakeZavos

Hexys wrote: »

It is actually insane, the general player mentality has become so negative. 3 players in a organized small group killing quite the larger numbers is a nice achievement and well done. Not understanding the game, calling 3 man a ball group, aoe cancer, nothing special...

Were is the little appreciation...

I know right. Its sad to see.

Aliyavana

Tammany wrote: »

Hexys wrote: »

It is actually insane, the general player mentality has become so negative. 3 players in a organized small group killing quite the larger numbers is a nice achievement and well done.

Just describes perfectly how balanced this game is.
It's not possible to 3 vs 30 in any other pvp game just by facetanking damage.

Part of the appeal if a small amount of players wiping out 30 bad players

Danksta

Tammany wrote: »

Hexys wrote: »

It is actually insane, the general player mentality has become so negative. 3 players in a organized small group killing quite the larger numbers is a nice achievement and well done.

Just describes perfectly how balanced this game is.
It's not possible to 3 vs 30 in any other pvp game just by facetanking damage.

Most zerglings are just that bad and that's why PvE'ers like me make easy work of "experienced" PvP'ers.

StormeReigns

Reminded me of this.
https://youtu.be/zyTZZvvSy5M

RD065

I enjoyed the video. I don't understand anything else that's being talked about. What's a ball group? Some throw the word cheat when they can't do what the OP's doing.

Looked pretty impressive to me.

MaxJrFTW

Cool and all but let's be honest, most of those guys were afk on the flag.

ArchMikem

Lemme guess, your Necro is a Harmony Bomber.

FakeZavos

MaxJrFTW wrote: »

Cool and all but let's be honest, most of those guys were afk on the flag.

On the first push yea

ArchMikem wrote: »

Lemme guess, your Necro is a Harmony Bomber.

We are all 3 in harmony

Aerenthir

Doing what they did, isn't as easy as people claim it to be. They are obviously coordinated and experienced enough, constantly cutting the line of sight of their enemies while being aware of their surroundings so they wouldn't get violated. Still it's wiping a zerg. Still on GrayHost most zergs are consisted of new people who just spam ranged skills, hoping they would hit and kill something. Now go kill Retaliation, or any other organized ball group with 3 people and make a video of it. :P

P.S You are two guys. Two guys means, two pairs. Two pairs are four balls in total. You are ball group.

FakeZavos

Aerenthir wrote: »

Doing what they did, isn't as easy as people claim it to be. They are obviously coordinated and experienced enough, constantly cutting the line of sight of their enemies while being aware of their surroundings so they wouldn't get violated. Still it's wiping a zerg. Still on GrayHost most zergs are consisted of new people who just spam ranged skills, hoping they would hit and kill something. Now go kill Retaliation, or any other organized ball group with 3 people and make a video of it. :P

P.S You are two guys. Two guys means, two pairs. Two pairs are four balls in total. You are ball group.

Well yeah. 2 guys and 1 girl. Is the girl still part of the ballgroup? kappa

But yeah. We will upload some more vids over the next days/weeks. This was one of the "smaller" fights

And about the guild groups. Does TDA count? Does Undead Nuns count? Those are 2 that I can name on top of my head that have been whiped. TDA was 3v24 (but they are trash). And Undead Nuns was 4v8

Taylor_MB

Man, this is why you don't post PvP in general...

FakeZavos

Taylor_MB wrote: »

Man, this is why you don't post PvP in general...

I 2nd that. Mistakes were made.

Aerenthir

FakeZavos wrote: »

Well yeah. 2 guys and 1 girl. Is the girl still part of the ballgroup? kappa


And about the guild groups. Does TDA count? Does Undead Nuns count? Those are 2 that I can name on top of my head that have been whiped. TDA was 3v24 (but they are trash). And Undead Nuns was 4v8

Of course she's part of the ball group. It's team play after all.

Sure, it does count. Trash or not, a ball group is a ball group. Much more organized than random zerglings. Didn't know Undead Nuns still play on GrayHost though. Haven't seen any of them recently. Thought they quit due to the excellent performance.

FakeZavos

Aerenthir wrote: »

FakeZavos wrote: »

Well yeah. 2 guys and 1 girl. Is the girl still part of the ballgroup? kappa


And about the guild groups. Does TDA count? Does Undead Nuns count? Those are 2 that I can name on top of my head that have been whiped. TDA was 3v24 (but they are trash). And Undead Nuns was 4v8

Of course she's part of the ball group. It's team play after all.

Sure, it does count. Trash or not, a ball group is a ball group. Much more organized than random zerglings. Didn't know Undead Nuns still play on GrayHost though. Haven't seen any of them recently. Thought they quit due to the excellent performance.

They were here yesterday

NeillMcAttack

So much salt... so bitter!

Anyway did someone say this is EU, how is that possible? I usually play in no-CP but I'm fairly certain that Cyro PvP doesn't work at all right now. What are your secrets, is this just footage from before the "performance" patch?

ArchMikem

FakeZavos wrote: »

ArchMikem wrote: »

Lemme guess, your Necro is a Harmony Bomber.

We are all 3 in harmony

Heh, not surprising.

L_Nici

@NeillMcAttack Actually Blakcreach is pretty stable most of the time, its the second CP campaign and most people just stay on the big Zerg one. Grey Host is unplayable at prime time.

Aerenthir

L_Nici wrote: »

@NeillMcAttack Actually Blakcreach is pretty stable most of the time, its the second CP campaign and most people just stay on the big Zerg one. Grey Host is unplayable at prime time.

I'm actually playing on Grey Host only. Even in prime time, and it's stable for me. A stable 150 or so ping, but still stable. I am using VPN though. From my experience it helps.