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[PvP] mDK changes in 3.3.2
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pieratsos✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭FlamingBeard wrote: »
My issue is simple: making powerlash dodgeable is counter inuitive once the mechanic that procs it demands and immediate roll dodge, making mDK feel clunky and not fluid at all. What made mDK interesting was how it's mechanics ressonated with every other skill. It has nothing to do with stamblades, it has to do with magDK general playstyle.
So you want guaranteed power lashes against people who play good against you and actively use game mechanics to counter you. So according to you sorc frags should be unreflectable and undodgeable because their visual cues and travel time make it easy to counter and make the whole rotation feel clunky.
You literally want to punish good play. Can you even comprehend how absurd that sounds?
"Good play" would be staying away from the magDK in the first place, because its goal is to immobilize and burn you down at melee range.
You used to be punished for staying in magDK's immediate range and now any decent medium build running Shuffle will avoid at least half of Power Lashes attempted and whittle the magDK down with defiles and snares that stamina builds love so much.
If you want to play a squishy medium build against a berserker class, accept that balance-wise, you SHOULD be at a disadvantage because you can escape at any time should you choose to.
They are trying to kite you and stay in range. Thats the whole point of dodge rolling. They are dodge rolling to get out of ur roots and create space. But you feel entitled to undodgeable power lashes on anyone who even dares to come close to you and you want to punish anyone who dares to counter your class. I cant even fathom how you even think like that. Do you even listen to urself? Should frags become undodgeable and unreflectable because they are telegraphed? Should we make every single telegraphed rotation ignore mechanics just because its telegraphed?
Let me make it a little more simple for you. If your opponent is kiting you so good to the point where you cant even land one whip in talons that will guarantee you a power lash hit after fossilize then you got outplayed. Period.3 -
krathos✭✭✭✭✭If your opponent is kiting you so good to the point where you cant even land one whip in talons that will guarantee you a power lash hit after fossilize then you got outplayed. Period.
Demonstration of a nightblade "outplaying" their opponent.
Flapjack Palmdale
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Grand Overlord - Magicka Dragonknight10 -
pieratsos✭✭✭✭✭
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Let me guess. Another butthurt antinightblade. Cool, get in line with the rest of them. Seems like the new trend. Now that sorcs are out of the way we are going for NBs. Everything should be undodgeable. Dont let them breath.1 -
krathos✭✭✭✭✭
Let me guess. Another butthurt antinightblade. Cool, get in line with the rest of them. Seems like the new trend. Now that sorcs are out of the way we are going for NBs. Everything should be undodgeable. Dont let them breath.
Or it's just funny. Stop being so sensitive.Flapjack Palmdale
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Grand Overlord - Magicka Dragonknight7 -
krathos✭✭✭✭✭Want to know how to tell who plays stam nb? They're the only ones in a MagDK thread crying harder than a MagDK.Edited by krathos on 26 January 2018 01:13Flapjack Palmdale
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Grand Overlord - Magicka Dragonknight8 -
pieratsos✭✭✭✭✭
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Let me guess. Another butthurt antinightblade. Cool, get in line with the rest of them. Seems like the new trend. Now that sorcs are out of the way we are going for NBs. Everything should be undodgeable. Dont let them breath.
Or it's just funny. Stop being so sensitive.
Kinda hard to understand whats funny and what isnt after you read some of the comments in here.1 -
pieratsos✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭FlamingBeard wrote: »
You've literally went to the point of calling talons bad for ur class because people dodge roll out of it. You actually went full potato. Im sorry but you are destroying urself with comments like that. You reminded me someone who said streak draining sorc's magicka is a buff to sorcs because other people chasing you lose stamina.
Just for the record, i play mDK more than i play stamblade. Was a nice try tho. Better luck next time i guess.
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krathos✭✭✭✭✭
Let me guess. Another butthurt antinightblade. Cool, get in line with the rest of them. Seems like the new trend. Now that sorcs are out of the way we are going for NBs. Everything should be undodgeable. Dont let them breath.
Or it's just funny. Stop being so sensitive.
Kinda hard to understand whats funny and what isnt after you read some of the comments in here.
I created a safe space for all the nightblades here https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/392048/buff-nightbladeEdited by krathos on 26 January 2018 01:31Flapjack Palmdale
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Grand Overlord - Magicka Dragonknight1 -
pieratsos✭✭✭✭✭
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Let me guess. Another butthurt antinightblade. Cool, get in line with the rest of them. Seems like the new trend. Now that sorcs are out of the way we are going for NBs. Everything should be undodgeable. Dont let them breath.
Or it's just funny. Stop being so sensitive.
Kinda hard to understand whats funny and what isnt after you read some of the comments in here.
I created a safe space for you https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/392048/buff-nightblade
Ah, so you confirmed that you are just a butthurt antinighblade. Wasnt so funny after all. I guess you can join the line. Lmao.1 -
krathos✭✭✭✭✭
Let me guess. Another butthurt antinightblade. Cool, get in line with the rest of them. Seems like the new trend. Now that sorcs are out of the way we are going for NBs. Everything should be undodgeable. Dont let them breath.
Or it's just funny. Stop being so sensitive.
Kinda hard to understand whats funny and what isnt after you read some of the comments in here.
I created a safe space for you https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/392048/buff-nightblade
Ah, so you confirmed that you are just a butthurt antinighblade. Wasnt so funny after all. I guess you can join the line. Lmao.
Or maybe this is also funny.Flapjack Palmdale
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Grand Overlord - Magicka Dragonknight5 -
pieratsos✭✭✭✭✭
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Let me guess. Another butthurt antinightblade. Cool, get in line with the rest of them. Seems like the new trend. Now that sorcs are out of the way we are going for NBs. Everything should be undodgeable. Dont let them breath.
Or it's just funny. Stop being so sensitive.
Kinda hard to understand whats funny and what isnt after you read some of the comments in here.
I created a safe space for you https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/392048/buff-nightblade
Ah, so you confirmed that you are just a butthurt antinighblade. Wasnt so funny after all. I guess you can join the line. Lmao.
Or maybe this is also funny.
This little circus? yeah its getting funny.0 -
krathos✭✭✭✭✭
Let me guess. Another butthurt antinightblade. Cool, get in line with the rest of them. Seems like the new trend. Now that sorcs are out of the way we are going for NBs. Everything should be undodgeable. Dont let them breath.
Or it's just funny. Stop being so sensitive.
Kinda hard to understand whats funny and what isnt after you read some of the comments in here.
I created a safe space for you https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/392048/buff-nightblade
Ah, so you confirmed that you are just a butthurt antinighblade. Wasnt so funny after all. I guess you can join the line. Lmao.
Or maybe this is also funny.
This little circus? yeah its getting funny.
Good. Everyone here needs to stop, laugh, and realize that Zenimax and their bandaid, half-fixes, are the real problem here and with every class.Edited by krathos on 26 January 2018 01:36Flapjack Palmdale
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Grand Overlord - Magicka Dragonknight5 -
pieratsos✭✭✭✭✭
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Let me guess. Another butthurt antinightblade. Cool, get in line with the rest of them. Seems like the new trend. Now that sorcs are out of the way we are going for NBs. Everything should be undodgeable. Dont let them breath.
Or it's just funny. Stop being so sensitive.
Kinda hard to understand whats funny and what isnt after you read some of the comments in here.
I created a safe space for you https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/392048/buff-nightblade
Ah, so you confirmed that you are just a butthurt antinighblade. Wasnt so funny after all. I guess you can join the line. Lmao.
Or maybe this is also funny.
This little circus? yeah its getting funny.
Good. Everyone here needs to stop, laugh, and realize that Zenimax and their bandaid, half-fixes, are the real problem here and with every class.
Couldnt agree more. PVP is getting worse every patch and their incompetence is actually really funny and frustrating at the same time. But fixing an ability which ignored game mechanics is a good fix.1 -
krathos✭✭✭✭✭
Let me guess. Another butthurt antinightblade. Cool, get in line with the rest of them. Seems like the new trend. Now that sorcs are out of the way we are going for NBs. Everything should be undodgeable. Dont let them breath.
Or it's just funny. Stop being so sensitive.
Kinda hard to understand whats funny and what isnt after you read some of the comments in here.
I created a safe space for you https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/392048/buff-nightblade
Ah, so you confirmed that you are just a butthurt antinighblade. Wasnt so funny after all. I guess you can join the line. Lmao.
Or maybe this is also funny.
This little circus? yeah its getting funny.
Good. Everyone here needs to stop, laugh, and realize that Zenimax and their bandaid, half-fixes, are the real problem here and with every class.
Couldnt agree more. PVP is getting worse every patch and their incompetence is actually really funny and frustrating at the same time. But fixing an ability which ignored game mechanics is a good fix.
Let's fix killers blade ya? Because that's an actual spammable execute that goes through dodge, that heals, and restores a *** ton of resources.Edited by krathos on 26 January 2018 01:41Flapjack Palmdale
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Grand Overlord - Magicka Dragonknight8 -
Nelson_Rebel✭✭✭✭✭
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Let me guess. Another butthurt antinightblade. Cool, get in line with the rest of them. Seems like the new trend. Now that sorcs are out of the way we are going for NBs. Everything should be undodgeable. Dont let them breath.
Or it's just funny. Stop being so sensitive.
Kinda hard to understand whats funny and what isnt after you read some of the comments in here.
I created a safe space for you https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/392048/buff-nightblade
Ah, so you confirmed that you are just a butthurt antinighblade. Wasnt so funny after all. I guess you can join the line. Lmao.
Or maybe this is also funny.
This little circus? yeah its getting funny.
Good. Everyone here needs to stop, laugh, and realize that Zenimax and their bandaid, half-fixes, are the real problem here and with every class.
Couldnt agree more. PVP is getting worse every patch and their incompetence is actually really funny and frustrating at the same time. But fixing an ability which ignored game mechanics is a good fix.
Let's fix killers blade ya? Because that's an actual spammable execute that goes through dodge, that heals, and restores a *** ton of resources.
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krathos✭✭✭✭✭Let's see how many stam nb we can get to rally behind us @Nelson_Rebel since they're so zealous about dodgeable abilities!Flapjack Palmdale
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Grand Overlord - Magicka Dragonknight4 -
pieratsos✭✭✭✭✭
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Let me guess. Another butthurt antinightblade. Cool, get in line with the rest of them. Seems like the new trend. Now that sorcs are out of the way we are going for NBs. Everything should be undodgeable. Dont let them breath.
Or it's just funny. Stop being so sensitive.
Kinda hard to understand whats funny and what isnt after you read some of the comments in here.
I created a safe space for you https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/392048/buff-nightblade
Ah, so you confirmed that you are just a butthurt antinighblade. Wasnt so funny after all. I guess you can join the line. Lmao.
Or maybe this is also funny.
This little circus? yeah its getting funny.
Good. Everyone here needs to stop, laugh, and realize that Zenimax and their bandaid, half-fixes, are the real problem here and with every class.
Couldnt agree more. PVP is getting worse every patch and their incompetence is actually really funny and frustrating at the same time. But fixing an ability which ignored game mechanics is a good fix.
Let's fix killers blade ya? Because that's an actual spammable execute that goes through dodge, that heals, and restores a *** ton of resources.
Good, fix it. If you ask me, any single target non channel abiliity should be dodgeable. Feel free to nerf incap too in some way. Id probably get behind that as well.1 -
krathos✭✭✭✭✭
Let me guess. Another butthurt antinightblade. Cool, get in line with the rest of them. Seems like the new trend. Now that sorcs are out of the way we are going for NBs. Everything should be undodgeable. Dont let them breath.
Or it's just funny. Stop being so sensitive.
Kinda hard to understand whats funny and what isnt after you read some of the comments in here.
I created a safe space for you https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/392048/buff-nightblade
Ah, so you confirmed that you are just a butthurt antinighblade. Wasnt so funny after all. I guess you can join the line. Lmao.
Or maybe this is also funny.
This little circus? yeah its getting funny.
Good. Everyone here needs to stop, laugh, and realize that Zenimax and their bandaid, half-fixes, are the real problem here and with every class.
Couldnt agree more. PVP is getting worse every patch and their incompetence is actually really funny and frustrating at the same time. But fixing an ability which ignored game mechanics is a good fix.
Let's fix killers blade ya? Because that's an actual spammable execute that goes through dodge, that heals, and restores a *** ton of resources.
Good, fix it. If you ask me, any single target non channel abiliity should be dodgeable. Feel free to nerf incap too in some way. Id probably get behind that as well.
Remove the defile OR 20% increase damage debuff. Easy fix.Edited by krathos on 26 January 2018 01:46Flapjack Palmdale
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Grand Overlord - Magicka Dragonknight4 -
DDuke✭✭✭✭✭
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Let me guess. Another butthurt antinightblade. Cool, get in line with the rest of them. Seems like the new trend. Now that sorcs are out of the way we are going for NBs. Everything should be undodgeable. Dont let them breath.
Or it's just funny. Stop being so sensitive.
Kinda hard to understand whats funny and what isnt after you read some of the comments in here.
I created a safe space for you https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/392048/buff-nightblade
Ah, so you confirmed that you are just a butthurt antinighblade. Wasnt so funny after all. I guess you can join the line. Lmao.
Or maybe this is also funny.
This little circus? yeah its getting funny.
Good. Everyone here needs to stop, laugh, and realize that Zenimax and their bandaid, half-fixes, are the real problem here and with every class.
Couldnt agree more. PVP is getting worse every patch and their incompetence is actually really funny and frustrating at the same time. But fixing an ability which ignored game mechanics is a good fix.
Let's fix killers blade ya? Because that's an actual spammable execute that goes through dodge, that heals, and restores a *** ton of resources.
Good, fix it. If you ask me, any single target non channel abiliity should be dodgeable. Feel free to nerf incap too in some way. Id probably get behind that as well.
This was brought up in Alcast's thread of undodgeable abilities: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/390550/undodgeable-and-unblockable-skills-list-need-your-help/p1
I was a bit surprised to see Killer's Blade on the list so I went ahead and tested it: 100% dodgeable.0 -
krathos✭✭✭✭✭
Let me guess. Another butthurt antinightblade. Cool, get in line with the rest of them. Seems like the new trend. Now that sorcs are out of the way we are going for NBs. Everything should be undodgeable. Dont let them breath.
Or it's just funny. Stop being so sensitive.
Kinda hard to understand whats funny and what isnt after you read some of the comments in here.
I created a safe space for you https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/392048/buff-nightblade
Ah, so you confirmed that you are just a butthurt antinighblade. Wasnt so funny after all. I guess you can join the line. Lmao.
Or maybe this is also funny.
This little circus? yeah its getting funny.
Good. Everyone here needs to stop, laugh, and realize that Zenimax and their bandaid, half-fixes, are the real problem here and with every class.
Couldnt agree more. PVP is getting worse every patch and their incompetence is actually really funny and frustrating at the same time. But fixing an ability which ignored game mechanics is a good fix.
Let's fix killers blade ya? Because that's an actual spammable execute that goes through dodge, that heals, and restores a *** ton of resources.
Good, fix it. If you ask me, any single target non channel abiliity should be dodgeable. Feel free to nerf incap too in some way. Id probably get behind that as well.
This was brought up in Alcast's thread of undodgeable abilities: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/390550/undodgeable-and-unblockable-skills-list-need-your-help/p1
I was a bit surprised to see Killer's Blade on the list so I went ahead and tested it: 100% dodgeable.
Bullocks. Alcast is our god source of truth. He'd never make a mistake.Flapjack Palmdale
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Grand Overlord - Magicka Dragonknight1 -
pieratsos✭✭✭✭✭
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Let me guess. Another butthurt antinightblade. Cool, get in line with the rest of them. Seems like the new trend. Now that sorcs are out of the way we are going for NBs. Everything should be undodgeable. Dont let them breath.
Or it's just funny. Stop being so sensitive.
Kinda hard to understand whats funny and what isnt after you read some of the comments in here.
I created a safe space for you https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/392048/buff-nightblade
Ah, so you confirmed that you are just a butthurt antinighblade. Wasnt so funny after all. I guess you can join the line. Lmao.
Or maybe this is also funny.
This little circus? yeah its getting funny.
Good. Everyone here needs to stop, laugh, and realize that Zenimax and their bandaid, half-fixes, are the real problem here and with every class.
Couldnt agree more. PVP is getting worse every patch and their incompetence is actually really funny and frustrating at the same time. But fixing an ability which ignored game mechanics is a good fix.
Let's fix killers blade ya? Because that's an actual spammable execute that goes through dodge, that heals, and restores a *** ton of resources.
Good, fix it. If you ask me, any single target non channel abiliity should be dodgeable. Feel free to nerf incap too in some way. Id probably get behind that as well.
Remove the defile OR damage component. Easy fix.
Id say the defile. At least make it minor defile and then completely and utterly destroy that stupid befoul passive in CP.
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krathos✭✭✭✭✭
Let me guess. Another butthurt antinightblade. Cool, get in line with the rest of them. Seems like the new trend. Now that sorcs are out of the way we are going for NBs. Everything should be undodgeable. Dont let them breath.
Or it's just funny. Stop being so sensitive.
Kinda hard to understand whats funny and what isnt after you read some of the comments in here.
I created a safe space for you https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/392048/buff-nightblade
Ah, so you confirmed that you are just a butthurt antinighblade. Wasnt so funny after all. I guess you can join the line. Lmao.
Or maybe this is also funny.
This little circus? yeah its getting funny.
Good. Everyone here needs to stop, laugh, and realize that Zenimax and their bandaid, half-fixes, are the real problem here and with every class.
Couldnt agree more. PVP is getting worse every patch and their incompetence is actually really funny and frustrating at the same time. But fixing an ability which ignored game mechanics is a good fix.
Let's fix killers blade ya? Because that's an actual spammable execute that goes through dodge, that heals, and restores a *** ton of resources.
Good, fix it. If you ask me, any single target non channel abiliity should be dodgeable. Feel free to nerf incap too in some way. Id probably get behind that as well.
Remove the defile OR damage component. Easy fix.
Id say the defile. At least make it minor defile and then completely and utterly destroy that stupid befoul passive in CP.
noooooo it's disease damage. making it minor defile would give a decent change to apply both. silly pesky nightblade.Flapjack Palmdale
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Grand Overlord - Magicka Dragonknight1 -
DDuke✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭@DDuke just tested on live, unmorphed version is not dodgeable.
Unmorphed version is called Assassin's Blade, not Killer's Blade & yes it's bugged on PTS as well.
It's a melee range magicka ability, similar to Soul Harvest which was also bugged & undodgeable.Edited by DDuke on 26 January 2018 02:280 -
krathos✭✭✭✭✭
NAWWWWWWWWWWW REALLLY???. I'm saying, although Killers Blade was marked as undodgeable by Alcast, which isnt true (also confirmed it) the base skill is and should be addressed.Flapjack Palmdale
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✭@IZZESparkling if you have problems vs medium builds it's on you getting outplayed.
I don't think I denied that? They shred me to pieces as much as I can kill them just as easy. Especially stamblades because of major defile wrecking heal combo which costs nearly 7k-8k alone which also get wrecked with ravage health or magicka poisons. Perhaps, by your own statement, if you have a problem against a mDK, maybe you are getting outplayed. Especially when powerlash hits you. Power lash nerf was unjustified. Period.Imperials, the one and true masters of all mortal races of Tamriel3 -
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✭✭✭Coincidentally how a dk thread becomes a flame war.FlamingBeard wrote: »
My issue is simple: making powerlash dodgeable is counter inuitive once the mechanic that procs it demands and immediate roll dodge, making mDK feel clunky and not fluid at all. What made mDK interesting was how it's mechanics ressonated with every other skill. It has nothing to do with stamblades, it has to do with magDK general playstyle.
So you want guaranteed power lashes against people who play good against you and actively use game mechanics to counter you. So according to you sorc frags should be unreflectable and undodgeable because their visual cues and travel time make it easy to counter and make the whole rotation feel clunky.
You literally want to punish good play. Can you even comprehend how absurd that sounds?
"Good play" would be staying away from the magDK in the first place, because its goal is to immobilize and burn you down at melee range.
You used to be punished for staying in magDK's immediate range and now any decent medium build running Shuffle will avoid at least half of Power Lashes attempted and whittle the magDK down with defiles and snares that stamina builds love so much.
If you want to play a squishy medium build against a berserker class, accept that balance-wise, you SHOULD be at a disadvantage because you can escape at any time should you choose to.
They are trying to kite you and stay in range. Thats the whole point of dodge rolling. They are dodge rolling to get out of ur roots and create space. But you feel entitled to undodgeable power lashes on anyone who even dares to come close to you and you want to punish anyone who dares to counter your class. I cant even fathom how you even think like that. Do you even listen to urself? Should frags become undodgeable and unreflectable because they are telegraphed? Should we make every single telegraphed rotation ignore mechanics just because its telegraphed?
Let me make it a little more simple for you. If your opponent is kiting you so good to the point where you cant even land one whip in talons that will guarantee you a power lash hit after fossilize then you got outplayed. Period.
I get what you are saying, and agree that lash should be dodged. But pl/frags comparison is a bit off. Frags can be proc'd without being shut down early like power lash. Since powerlash requires cc and flame lash. Both of which can be rolled out of to prevent proc, but frags is cast rng.
However whip is still much stronger with a stun and heal. So it makes sense.
MagDK main. PC/EU @AK-ESO
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lucky_Sage✭✭✭✭✭Ragnaroek93 wrote: »Seriously, start coming up with actual arguments instead of "I want to play my stand your ground playstyle and therefore I will win while you lose" and start seeing the other side of the medal. I don't know anybody who doesn't play mag Dk and rates it as fun to play against this class.
Change that for:
I'd like to play mDK, which has a unique playstyle where their skills resonate with each other while still having counter play.
As I said, stamblades have a hard encounter against mDKs. But in all honesty, if you can't outheal or OUTPLAY (and this is the important term) any mDK by keeping your distance, bursting when necessary, using your own dots, your access to defile and one of the most powerful ults in the game I am terribly sorry... but that's an L2P issue (not saying its your case)
We can't nerf classes simply because people don't take their time to learn how to fight against it.
I'm sorry if I sounded rude or agressive, that's not my objective here. I just can't put it better...
"L2P issue"
How are you going to outheal 15k tooltip power lashes, undodgeable embers, 20k tooltip leaps, FoB projectiles, Skoria procs?
How are you going to keep your distance when a mag DK has Empowering Chains slotted?
How are you ever going to burst them when they have just enough health & mitigation to survive your predictable burst with a calculated maximum of 19k dmg on proper CPs/mitigation?
What is your Defile going to do against Healing Ward that's stronger than your Rev Slice/Killer's Blade?
The only way to beat an actual good mDK is with S&B Clown King dueling build, and any stam build can do that. In fact, those builds will now be weaker against mDK thanks to the Power Lash changes, as they don't dodge - they block. That is a good thing.
If there's anyone with L2P issues it's you, complaining when mDKs are getting buffed against most builds in the game.
how to counter chains walk up a slight hill
even with 15k powerlash tool tip at most will hit 7k if med with all inpen
out heal there dmg stealth then rally
out to out sustain us oh wait magdk sustain is worst in game
how to counter block as stamblade fear
DC PC NA
Magdk - main
Stamcro - alt
AD PS4 NA -retired (PC runs way better to play on console)
magdk
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✭I just wish the stam DK would get some love...
I ha e listed on the forum 678567444566y times the problem with stam dk.. but all we ever see on the forums is magicka dks.....
Magicka DK vs Stam DK... let's look at the differences here....
It's actually sad when you do .. the stam DK is a shell of its former ...PVP DEADWAIT
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